i curious. expensive avr use 0db not same with regular avr 0db meh ?
compare between same brand same gen after calibrate

Curious, what did you change to?

Bro, whats your opinion on A3080 compared to Denon/Marantz? Im looking at it as well  Thanks

Actually it was a general question when I posted. my circle of friends generally are on denon/marantz hence was wondering. Since on paper the spec for yamaha looks solid and generally has higher power, hence was wondering how it translate to real world. I suppose to go Desa home for a view, unfortunately we are still under mco, hence didnt want to risk it crossing district.

These couple of days was looking at A3080, vs Denon x4500, x4700, X7200WA and x6700. compared to those yamaha is almost half the price.

Thanks alot guys for your valuable input.

That's nice to hear. Everyone says Yamaha AVR is a lot cooler than Denon. I used to have a Yamaha RX-V659, which I then upgrade to Denon 3312. IMO, Both are equally hot. 
perhaps they just like the simplicity of Audyssey.

Thanks guys for your valuable inputs!      :thumbsup:

Just realized one of my cousin had A2080 so went to play around with it, as many of you indicated, the manual controller on YPAO is just superb, I liked the sound as well, kinda more sharper than D&M and yes cooler as well, but its expected, since Yamaha engineers manage to use smaller power supply to power it up to that extend! A3080 is only 490W compared to other which runs around 700W.

Anyways, finally bit the bullet and going with a little older model Denon X8500H since it has 13.2ch.

Thanks thanks...when I saw the YPAO, it was very similar to my technics (but obviously not on phone, have to do it on screen, but every single fields can be tweaked, that was sweet.

Im still new on zoning, etc, hence need to learn on it as well.

Now anxiously waiting for delivery..... 

From your experience how do you would setup 2 front speaker firing all the time for both movie and music?

Thus far, I know I have 2 option either make my second pair as Zone2 or just straight fire it from the speaker output by setting it large, but Im not sure what are its loss and gain, until I play around.

First of all, thanks to all whom had help me decide and thanks for all your input, appreciated   

Finally got my X8500H setup over the weekend....New toy to play around, used manual setup and then audyssey, pretty impressed with the MultiEQ.

The AVR remote is pretty handy as well. Still fine tuning and moving my speakers to play around and playing with the graph! hahaha

Setting up Speaker A+B to play together was pretty straight forward, I was afraid it would be complicated since Im not familiar with the menu.

One question, though, did anyone manage to configure the Denon remote to control Astro ultra plus box?

I have setup my TV, but Astro (Samsung) code given, doesnt seem to be responding
http://manuals.denon.com/AVRX8500H/preset/...PresetCodes.pdf

Appreciate if any info here, thanks

Right right, totally forgot about that...will test ratbuddyssey out!

My parents needs them, due to local channel...hahaha, cant run away from Astro.

I had Astro plugged into DVD HDMI port, but denon didnt like the RC code starting with 0...so had to move it to Aux2 to key in the code, yet it doesnt recognize

Next let me see if I could setup UnifiTV as well...hahaha

BTW, do you use a fan for your receiver? Mine gets as high as 60C at high volume

Reading r/hometheater it seems that SVS subs are regarded as some of the best subs one could buy.

But the price for SVS here are pretty high assumingly due to shipping, import taxes and whatnot. Prices from Maxx Audio:
PB-1000 PRO - RM4099
SB-1000 PRO - RM3579
($599 & $499 in the US)

Are there subs from other brands available here that is comparable to the SVS but cheaper (due to being widely available, lower shipping cost etc)?

Ah okay, welp the 1000 PROs are already at the limit of my budget so gotta go with SVS then
Thanks for the info

What is a bang for buck system at the moment?

Right now I am using Bose Lifestyle which doesn't have 4K input and sound wise it is alright, I just upgraded my TV, I was pondering upgrading the sound system as well. Heard good things about Denon receivers, which ones should I be looking at?

I use my PS5 with Samsung G7, TV just with Apple TV, so 120fps isn’t a priority for me.

guys, just want to ask..if i put my speakers on console table, i feels its too low.. but there is not enough space beside the table for me to put stand..is there any way i can alleviate the speakers on my console table?

When I connect my NVIDIA Shield TV PRO to Yamaha AV-RX-V385 AVR the output it projects to my 4K TV is not HDR. When I connect directly, NVIDIA Shield TV to my 4K TV it detects HDR.
So is it correct to say that my AVR does not support HDR? Is there anyway to overcome this?

Hi all sifus... I wish to get some advice from the experienced owners here..

I initially went to Stylelazer looking for a 5.1.2 atmos package with a budget of RM5k, what they recommended was this

https://www.stylelaser.com.my/product/denon...heatre-package/

After demo, i don't think the combo sounded good at all, particularly the highs are too "strong/piercing".

A friend told me it may due to no calibration b4 the demo... Now I hesitates to spend RM6.5k gambling on it'll sound good after calibration...

Also is my budget of RM5k too little for a 5.1.2 Atmos package? Will it sound much much better if i spend the same budget on a branded 2.1 instead?

Thanks for your reply bud. It is already set to mode 1, this is the first thing I check when I was having this issue.

Wow thank u all for ur kind advice~ Very appreciate it~   
The set will be in my living room, left side is curtain, right side is dining area, so i think reflection is not an issue
I see, maybe Jamo sound are usually like this then. But according to the shop, the guy told me it's due to Denon amp, if use Marantz amp will sound better 
Yea... I tried some soundbars at multiple electrical stores, they all dun sound good, even the RM7.5k Sonos + Sonos sub do not sound as good as my Proton car speaker, that's really weird.. Now I'm willing to go 2.0 or 2.1 haha..

Yesterday I found this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4rSdFeAQwc (sorry chinese speaking only, haven't found any english speaking reviewer going as technical as this guy)
He seems to know a lot about audio and he also sells them in package here (maybe Taiwan only) https://shop.ningselect.com/cat/n/ningstereo/

For newbies, he suggested LA Audio https://shopee.com.my/LA-Audio-M2-Hybrid-in...9332.7905674132 + Castle Knight 1 speakers https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....bucket=5#detail, total around RM4k, have anyone heard good things about these 2 brands? Or do u have any other recommendation?

I think I won't go used since I'm unable to judge whether the set is in good condition or not, safer to go new with warranty..
My hse ceiling will be flat and 10 ft after plastering, I'm also willing to do ceiling speakers, but too bad their suggestion sounded quite bad to me, even my gf who isn't particular on audio things doesn't like it, so we were quite disappointed at what they sound like for a RM7k product... For now, i think i'll just go with 2.0 or 2.1 if needed, but wishes to get some recommendation...

Because audio is almost like rocket science to me... You can't choose the amp/speakers based on spec or price..
Amp with low spec can sounds good too (the LA Audio amp above only puts out 18w), speaker with higher price does not always mean it'll sound good, there's also amp like NAD 3020i which is legendary (i think, have dug deep into it yet), selling at only around RM700... Plus there are TONNES of brands, whether you ever heard of it or not, they all have products that sound good... Rocket science   

Thank u all!
Should I decide on the speaker before deciding on the AVR/amp? Since I understood that whether a speaker can be pushed fully to its potential is determined by the AVR/Amp.

Also just learned that UK brands tend to have warmer sounds, maybe i should start targeting UK speakers.
Haha yea, but if the set can do music well, should be able to do decent on movie as well right?

Now I'm definitely not sure about whether I'll expand the system, now I'm mainly looking for one that does the job well enough, but to keep all options open, i think getting an AVR is best.

Denon AVR-x1600H was highly rated and seemed to well spec-ed, but the demo that day really ruin my impression of it, not sure the overly sharp sound is due to the Denon AVR or the Jamo speakers though... If Jamo is sharp at leaast I can swap out for a Whaferdale etc. for warmer sound.. Hmm guess I gotta take another trip for demo haha
The Wharfedale I think over budget considering I still need an AVR, some cables, maybe stands etc. 
But I'll keep it on the list just in care I'm willing to push my budget a lil further, you couldn't be any kinder by putting those shopee link, much appreciated 

If u don't mind guiding me a little further, may i know what spec should i check when looking for speakers and AVR? I quite worry as I heard they can be damaged..

I understand that watts is the power required to move the speakers, having more doesn't matter? Will having too much watt damage the speakers?

How about Ohm? Should I worry about it? I read it can cause overheating in the AVR or even damage it?

I'll probably get Denon AVR-x1600H for future upgrades (if required), but still thank u for the amp recommendation.
Hey chill bro, thank u for ur advice~

I'm thinking if the system can't even sound good enough in the perfectly setup demo room to convince me to buy, how am I gonna be confident enough to spend my hard earned money on it.. I know everyone's home/room may not be perfect for listening, but if the system already sound bad in perfect room, it'll definitely sound even worse in my imperfect living room... Sometimes we just have to make do with the room we have right..

At least if it sounded very nice during the demo, we can try to copy that at home... Instead of spending RM7k yet still have to experiment with it, without knowing the eventual result will be good or bad..

You Shield settings, is it custom or default settings you choose? Need further info in order to configure the settings. Thanks again for your help.

cheers!

I see ok i think I'll go with Denon AVR-S960H for the extra features at only Rm500 more.

Hopefully can go for another demo soon, mayb after MCO 

Any speaker brand or model you can recommend for rock music? Budget preferably below RM2k unless significant improvement for slightly more money.. Thank u in advance!
Ya! That's what i thought too, since music is more complex compared to a movie. I think I need to focus my search on those performs well on music then, automatically they'll do fine with movies.

And... Nope, it's not sibilance, maybe, just MAYBE Jamo speakers sound overly bright (not sure how to describe it) to me, will arrange for another demo for other speakers...

Mainly set my eye on Denon AVR-S960H + UK brand speakers since they have a reputation for warmer sounds

Hmm i think i get ur point... Best environment is one without any kinds of sound reflection, is that right?

Btw same question, any speaker brand or model that you can recommend for rock music? Budget preferably below RM2k but willing to top up slightly if there's significant improvement on the sound quality.. Thank u!
I see, based on SSJBen's and your advice, I think I do not need to worry much about damaging the speakers or amp/AVR? Since the human limit will be reached before theirs

I'm eyeing the Denon AVR-S960H now, should be more than sufficient for a long time.

If pair with the above Denon AVR, any speaker brand or model can recommend for rock music? Budget preferably below RM2k but willing to top up slightly if there's significant improvement on the sound quality.. Thank u!