Our take on the Yamaha RX-V683 by Crutchfield's Deia Z.
If you spend a lot of time enjoying movies and music, you want a receiver that treats them both right. Yamaha's RX-V683 is loaded with up-to-the-minute features and convenient customization options so you can set your system up just the way you want.
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Highlights:
Power and Processing:
7-channel amplifier 90 watts per channel into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.09% THD, with 2 channels driven Dolby® and DTS® surround sound decoding Dolby Atmos and DTS:X for more enveloping home theater sound supports a 5.1.2 Atmos setup with multiple placement patterns for height channels upscales standard-definition video signals to HD and Ultra HD (up to 4K) YPAO (Yamaha Parametric Room Acoustic Optimizer) automatic speaker calibration with Reflected Sound Control and Volume (microphone included) DSP modes add richness and depth to music and movie soundtracks parameters can be customized using Yamaha's AV Controller app Adaptive Dynamic Range Control limits the volume level on sound effects and commercials for more discreet late-night listening Dialogue Lift and Level Adjustment for clearer, louder dialogue while watching movies and shows Digital Music Options:
built-in Wi-Fi for listening to music from a networked PC, free Internet radio, and music services Wireless Direct lets you stream music and control the player from a smartphone or tablet without a wireless home network Spotify Connect lets you play Spotify's streaming music library through the receiver via your smartphone or tablet (requires Spotify app and a premium subscription) support for TIDAL and Deezer available via May 2017 firmware update built-in Bluetooth for wireless music streaming Apple AirPlay for streaming music from an iPhone®, iPad®, iPod touch® or computer running iTunes® MusicCast wirelessly connects compatible Yamaha components for whole home audio plays high-resolution digital music files via USB storage device or a networked computer (up to 24-bit/192kHz resolution) gapless playback of WAV, FLAC and ALAC files from USB thumb drives and networked computers Multi-room Audio:
dual-room/dual-source output powered and line-level stereo audio output for 2nd room (using powered 2nd-room output allows 5.2 home theater in main room) Intelligent Amp Assign automatically redirects Surround Back channels in Main zone to Zone 2 speakers when Zone 2 is powered on optical/coaxial digital and HDMI audio sources cannot be output to Zone 2 Audio Performance Features:
24-bit/192kHz Burr-Brown digital-to-analog converters for all channels Extra Bass offers enhanced low-frequency response even with small speakers Virtual Cinema Front simulates surround sound effects when five connected speakers are all placed in the front of the room Ultra Low Jitter PLL circuitry reduces timing jitter from digital sources, for improved sound quality and imaging Compressed Music Enhancer improves sound quality of MP3s and other digital music files Connections:
HDMI 2.0a audio/video switching: 6 in, 1 out (including 1 front-panel input) HDCP 2.2 technology ensures compatibility with 4K Ultra HD sources and TVs (HDMI inputs 1,2, and 3, and monitor output only) HDR-compatible for extended picture contrast and brightness with compatible 4K TVs and HDR-encoded content Dolby Vision compatibility via future firmware update component video input composite video switching input digital audio inputs: 2 optical and 2 coaxial 3 pairs of stereo RCA inputs 1 pair of stereo RCA outputs for Zone 2 preamp outputs for two powered subwoofers phono input for use with a turntable front-panel USB port for audio playback from USB flash drives and portable music players Ethernet port for network connection outputs for 9 speakers: Front L/R, Center, Surround L/R, Surround Back L/R, Front Presence L/R Front Presence speaker outputs can also be used for Zone 2 speakers in a second room Surround Back speaker outputs can also be used to bi-amp compatible front speakers receiver can power a maximum of 7 channels at once remote input/output (IR) and 12 volt-trigger output for use with external controllers 1/4" headphone jack General Features:
free Yamaha AV Controller app lets you use your Apple or Android device as a Wi-Fi remote 4K and 3D video pass-through full-color on-screen display four SCENE presets for one-touch power-up, source selection and DSP recall Audio Return Channel (ARC) function receives digital audio signals from a compatible HDTV's tuner or "smart" content via HDMI HDMI standby pass-through allows HDMI switching without powering up receiver AM/FM tuner remote control 17-1/8"W x 6-3/8"H x 14-11/16"D (9-1/4"H with Wi-Fi antenna raised) weight: 22 lbs. warranty: 2 years
For surrounds you can just buy the small 2010i and call it a day since your space isn't too big. They're quite cheap, they play fairly loud without killing itself and don't sound too bad either.
Sub.. Maybe get a second hand SVS SB1000 or PB1000.
In terms of raw numbers? Of course the PB1000. Has a bigger cabinet and has a fairly wide port for a sub of this size.
To put it briefly, the PB1000 has nearly 6db advantage over the SB1000 25hz and lower. 6db is nearly TWICE as loud. The advantage of the PB1000 carries forward until 50hz with an average of 3-4db more output. Beyond that, both subs will start to have a similar amount of volume output up until 150hz before they start rolling off.
That said, the PB1000's port tune is specified at 19hz (though measurements has shown that it is actually closer to 21hz). That does mean that below 19hz, the PB1000 has significantly lower output where as the SB1000 with the provision of room gain may actually sound louder. Then again, anything below 20hz requires massive amount of volume to even be usable in a real world scenario - something the SB1000 cannot achieve either ways.
Additionally, some people will swear on their grandma's grave that ported subs are ALWAYS worse for music simply because a ported sub will be "boomier", have distortion or have excessive port chuffing. While yes those kind of issues does exist, they are only present on cheap fart boxes that you pay less than RM1k for. Most decently built subs avoid these kind of plague because they are built to a certain standard.
Have I heard a PB1000 chuff? Yes of course, all ported subs CAN and WILL chuff if you play at obscenely high volumes (and I'm talking about volumes that crack your plaster ceilings). Does a PB1000 ever sound boomy in music? Nope, not unless I place it in an idiotic location. Does a PB1000 ever distort? A little, but the chances of it distorting is very uncommon due to SVS aggresive in-built limiter that in most cases wouldn't allow the sub to kill itself playing frequencies it can't.
So yes, the PB1000 is a better sub. But the more important question is, do you have space for the sub? If yes, go with the PB1000. If not, obviously look at the SB1000.
Thank you for your deeper explanation and suggestion.
QUOTE(sonerin @ Jul 8 2017, 12:17 AM)
Will suggest you go to max audio and ask the distributor to give you a listen. Also he can explain to you on what to expect
I saw a guy from a website selling two of his sVs PB-2000 for 7K. One would be half of 7K.
The RX-V683 has the following differences/advantages over the RX-V681
RX-V683 2017 Model RX-V681 2016 Model MSRP: $649.95 1. Rear panel has new setup graphics on it for speaker wire/setup. 2. 4K video upscaling from HDMI input and Analog(Component/Composite 480i Only). 3. Tidal* & Deezer* network streaming sources via `*airable`. (May require firmware update on first release.) *Note: Replaces vTuner. 4. Triggered Auto Playback with MusicCast devices. 5. AV Input Changes: RX-V683 AV1 Coaxial Digital Audio with Component Video (Red/Blue/Green) AV2 Analog L & R with Composite Video(Yellow) and Audio 3 Analog L & R. Audio 1, 2 Opitcal Audio 3 Coaxial Audio 4,5 Analog L & R(Red/White) **No Component of Composite Montior Outputs. HDMI output to TV only. RX-V681 AV1 Optical Digital Audio with Component Video (Red/Blue/Green) AV2 Coaxial Digital Audio with Component Video (Red/Blue/Green) AV3 Coaxial Digital Audio with Composite Video (Yellow) AV4 Optical Digital Audio with Composite Video(Yellow) AV5, AV6 Analog L & R(Red/White) with Composite Video(Yellow) Audio 1, 2 Analog L & R(Red/White) 6. Extra SP1 Screw type speaker terminal.(RX-V681 Clip type.)l. 7. Content Preset in SCENE Button 8. Zone Volume Equalizer and Extra Bass 9. Zone Mono, tone control, audio delay. 10. Stereo Mini Jack on the front panel for portable audio players. 11. Program Up Arrow and Down Arrow buttons are programmable. Rated Output Power (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, 0.09 % THD, 2-ch driven) 80W Weight 17.9lbs. Dimensions 17-1/8” x 6-3/4” x 14-7/8” With antenna up: 17-1/8” x 9-1/4" x 14-7/8"
Which subwoofer type is better – sealed or ported? An evergreen discussion topic on the forums and blogs, there is no shortage of opinions on the subject. Add in a few die-hard myths and generalizations, and it’s no surprise this is one of the most common questions asked of SVS Customer Service. At the risk of sounding ambiguous, the answer is ‘it depends’. The strengths of each subwoofer type are discussed below, along with the recommended applications and listening environments which will result in optimal performance.
SEALED SUBWOOFERS:
COMPACT FORM FACTOR
Sealed subwoofers typically have a smaller overall cabinet size and footprint, allowing easier integration into the listening environment with minimal visual impact to the décor. This makes the sealed subwoofer a natural choice in mixed media (movies, music, gaming) entertainment systems so common in today’s living rooms.
BEST FOR CRITICAL MUSIC APPLICATIONS
A properly designed sealed subwoofer will typically exhibit less phase rotation, lower group delay, and reduced ringing in the time domain. These characteristics make the sealed subwoofer a natural choice for critical music applications, and are typically described by enthusiasts as sounding tighter and more articulate, with less perceived overhang.
ULTRA DEEP EXTENSION - A NATURAL COMPLEMENT TO ROOM GAIN
A sealed subwoofer naturally has a shallower roll-off slope than a ported subwoofer. SVS takes this concept one step further by employing sophisticated DSP equalization to tailor the overall shape of the frequency response and roll-off slope, in order to take maximum advantage of available ‘room gain’ so common in small to mid-size rooms.
The end result is much deeper in-room extension than the quasi-anechoic frequency response would otherwise suggest. Below is a graph showing the SVS SB-2000 quasi-anechoic frequency response compared to the in-room frequency response with 7 dB/octave of room gain starting at 40 Hz (common for a small to mid-size enclosed room).
DYNAMIC OUTPUT LIMITS IN THE DEEPEST OCTAVES
With each successively deeper octave, cone excursion quadruples in a sealed subwoofer in order to maintain the same sound pressure level. In addition, the equalization required to tailor and optimize the quasi-anechoic frequency response consumes amplifier power. As a result, a sealed subwoofer will typically have considerably lower dynamic output limits than a ported subwoofer in the same family/price range.
This doesn’t necessarily mean a sealed subwoofer can’t perform well on action movies (which are quite demanding in the 18-36 Hz octave). Remember, a smaller room will greatly augment low frequency extension/output, and not everyone listens to movies at IMAX theater levels. So if the dynamic limits of the sealed subwoofer are well-matched to the room size and playback level, the result can be excellent performance on movies too.
PORTED SUBWOOFERS:
SIZE MATTERS - NO REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT
In a ported subwoofer design, a relatively large enclosure size is required in order to achieve both a deep system tuning frequency, and sufficient port area to minimize chuffing artifacts at high drive levels. A larger enclosure also greatly enhances system efficiency in the deeper octaves, with no need for additional EQ boost to achieve naturally deep extension.
The result is 2-4X more peak dynamic output in the 18-36 Hz octave as compared to a sealed subwoofer in the same family/price range. This makes the larger ported SVS subs a natural choice for system applications with larger rooms (where less room gain is present) and IMAX-like playback levels, particularly on demanding Blu-ray action and sci-fi movies with strong LFE tracks.
BUT WHAT ABOUT MUSIC?
One of the most persistent myths in the audio industry is that ported subwoofers perform poorly on music. This reputation was largely earned by the public suffering through decades of small, ported boom boxes so common in HTIB systems and brick/mortar retail outlets. These subwoofers don’t sound bad on music because they are ported; they sound bad on music (and movies too) simply because they are bad subwoofers.
SVS ported subwoofers have a flat frequency response, low distortion, excellent bandwidth linearity and a very deep tuning frequency (typically 20 Hz or deeper). The deep system tuning frequency shifts port-induced phase rotation and associated group delay below the typical music bandwidth, where we are relatively insensitive to it.
Below is a graph of the SVS PB13-Ultra group delay curves for the 20 Hz ported, 16 Hz ported and Sealed operating modes. Note the group delay curves for all three modes are coincident from 120 Hz-30 Hz (which covers the typical music bandwidth), only diverging at the very deepest frequencies. While Sealed mode unquestionably has the lowest overall group delay, the two ported modes also have exemplary time domain behavior >30 Hz and can deliver excellent sound on music, as well as stellar movie performance.
SUMMARY:
Both sealed and ported alignments have strengths and advantages, and which type of subwoofer is best for a given customer application depends on several variables. Room size, system usage, playback level, décor and aesthetic considerations, available floor space and limitations on overall subwoofer size - all factor into the selection process. In the end, both types of subwoofers can deliver an outstanding, no-compromise listening experience on both music and movies, provided the selected subwoofer model is a great match to the customer’s specific performance requirements and application.
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This post has been edited by jovigrunge: Jul 8 2017, 02:33 PM
Sure...you need some level of reserves in terms of both power and frequency... a lot of folks just don't know what is required and how to integrate with their room...
And of course there is such a thing as too much bass...behold my kitchen window... lol...
Well you and I know that with enough power you can overcome some room physics....lol...that's what you are doing with SB2000 vs SB1000... BTW, I have a PB1000, SB2000, and two other subs ...
Holy crap, is that your window? Come to think of it, it is debatable about "too much bass." theory.
Many years ago, I placed my 4 feet aquarium filled with an Arowana Golden Blue Base fish (R.I.P ) next to my HT set. The fish died but of course it's not becoz of the subwoofer but my point is the feeling of fear my aquarium will someday crack was always there especially with all the crazy sound + bass surrounding the area.
Hi all. I have a set of Boston Acoustic CS 2310 5.1 small bookshelf speakers set. I would like to get an AVR for it. Mostly use it for movies, and mixed use like TV. Sometimes music but very rarely. It will be in our living room which is about 130sf, but it is open to the dining area and stairways.
Budget not much. So would not opt for too many features. Won't upgrade as long as they still work. Focus will be getting an AVR that can drive these tiny speakers effortlessly. Can anyone give me a recommendation on AVR please?
Not much. I'll put a ballpark at less than 2k to start with. Don't want to spend too much. But would really want a decent one that matches the speakers in terms of power.
I bought Onkyo 656 via 11st and the store was ProAV when they notified me that they already shipped to my Whatsapp, the exec who handles the shipment introduced herself that she's from Style Laser and the shipment only take one day from KL to Penang. Super fast! Im impressed.
So if anyone want to buy AVR/home theatre, wait for RM300 discount voucher in 11st, go find the unit you desired in 11st under seller name ProAV because they are Style Laser.
How she introduced herself? You mean all through PM in Whatsapp right?
How you get RM300 discount voucher in 11st? I thought only MAX only Rm100?
This post has been edited by jovigrunge: Nov 21 2017, 06:26 PM
Yes whatsapp, she wanted to give me the tracking number.
RM300 on 1.11, 11.11 & 15.11 soon 12.12 better wait for it If you want to buy from Desa Home, they have 2 store Id also in 11st, Desa Home & BEST DEAL AV SHOP (Both stores also desa home)
There are few type of coupons: bonus, shopping cart, shipping
Applicable on shopping cart, whenever seller said not applicable for coupon meaning not applicable to bonus coupon. Other coupon still can be used.
you never used 11st before?
Yes in fact I bought almost all my online stuff on 11th except these one or two months due to lack of attractive coupons. I'm not aware of RM300 shopping cart coupon during those periods you mentioned. What's the min purchase and discount percentage?
i think around 8% but still better than lazada voucher. I created 3 accounts to sapu all the RM300 vouchers during all the 3 events to buy all expensive items. i.e 4 X 10TB HDD, Synology NAS, network switches, camera, AVR etc.
Together with 6% shopback, low balling the online seller kao kao. Desa Home even called me to cancel my order with lame excuses that they didnt have stock yet still listed them in 11st, lelong, lazada, and their own website. Then when i kesi kesi asked about other model he finally revealed that their profit is lesser with all this kinda of event.
Only after Desa Home cancelled my order i find ProAV aka Style laser and bought 656 from them.
The fact that Desa Home asked customer to cancel the order instead of them do it, looks bad on customer's side. I even called 11st customer service to verify but they said no impact. But i doubt it. Desa home could've cancelled the order instead of asking customer since they're the one who have "no stock".
I bought my first set of home theater at Desa Kepong physical main outlet years back and always look for their promotion but it seems like they didn't update their promotions on the website on regular basis. However, since online shopping sites nowadays offer discount coupons, I hardly buy anything on the physical store and always waited every 11th to grab 30% LOVE 11th coupons except these one to two months where 11th totally stop giving 30% and max pay RM20 coupon. 11% is not attractive to me.
I've seen they gave discount up to RM200 for purchase made above RM2000 3 months ago but perhaps I missed out the max RM300 discount you mentioned since I'm not active in 11th these past two months.
My target is to get an XBOX ONE, YAMAHA AV or perhaps a sVs subwoofer + speakers.........
Style Laser is very well known on Mudah new or second AV related item but never bought anything from them. The way you mentioned, their service must be better than Desa yah?
For warranty claim we can just go there (Style Laser) directly right?
So much you paid for your ONKYO NR 656 after max RM300 coupon discount?
Can you try to click the site below, why one of the seller selleing it for RM4399? So obvious difference than the rest which cost around RM2443 - RM2599?
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