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cp liew
post Jan 3 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(quintesson @ Dec 30 2012, 11:33 PM)
bros / sis,

i intended to buy a sub-sale new double storey terrace but was abandon for a few years until early this year only got the CF. Problem is I saw every houses do have some cracks here and there on the wall. some even can see the top door frame uneven. my question is how serious are these cracks? I've checked the exterior houses seems not like settlement issue. problem is former developer Talam already bankrupt so nobody will rectify it. such issue is it normally will need to demolish the particular wall section and rebuild?
is it advisable to purchase and i'll need to search for the best/minimal problem condition house there is?

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post Jan 4 2013, 03:09 PM

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post Jan 6 2013, 11:05 AM

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hi bros here,
just wanna ask, i in the in process want but subsale house that just completed. my question are
1. how i want make sure the owner will clear all defect if any for taht house, because defect warantty is between developer and current owner right?
2. is it i need my lawyer do some aggrement letter regarding to clear all defect once the snp is sign?

many thansx bro.
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post Feb 20 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(the_seyes @ Jan 6 2013, 11:05 AM)
hi bros here,
just wanna ask, i in the in process want but subsale house that just completed. my question are
1. how i want make sure the owner will clear all defect if any for taht house, because defect warantty is between developer and current owner right?
2. is it i need my lawyer do some aggrement letter regarding to clear all defect once the snp is sign?

many thansx bro.
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that is why u paid the lawyer, make sure he/she get the clauses right!
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post Feb 25 2013, 08:50 PM

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post Mar 6 2013, 02:28 PM

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Hi guys,

Would appreciate some advice on this frustrating situation that I'm facing. Bought a new property, and had a number of defects. Its has been almost 6 months since I reported the defects but the developer still have not completed most of them, despite numerous calls and emails.

Apart from from threatening them with an ultimate dateline, and there after I fix the defects and claim it from them, is there other alternatives? I'm concerning that doing this will open up a new can of worms, where they will no longer be responsible for other defects after that, and also that they delay the reimbursement of the claims indefinitely.

Will sending official letters to the developer and cc to the housing ministry and other authorities help to keep the developer on their toes?

Really appreciate your advise as I have ran out of ideas.
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post Mar 9 2013, 09:19 AM

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Hi,
Hope to get some advise here!

Its advisable to get a key first before joint inspection with site supervisor?

I'm planning to do that so, when joint inspection with site supervisor, I already ready with the defect list if any.

What do you guys think?
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post Mar 10 2013, 03:27 PM

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i got my keys and started to clean my house and found some minor defects like cracked tiles, unfinished water sinks installation(no drain pipe and faucet)..the sales ppl ask me to write some letter with pics to them if there any defects..anyone has the format for letter?
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post Mar 21 2013, 07:13 PM

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Hi, All.

Firstly, I am really happy I found this blog. Excellent tips for inspecting a new property. I would like to ask if anyone can advise me regarding defect liability on an apartment. I am looking to buy an apartment in a building that was completed some 2 years ago. The unit did not sell well, but is quickly selling now. The unit is new ( never been occupied), but the realtor claims that it is considered a sub sale. In terms of defect liability, this is what the developer advised to the realtor:

"We will only rectify one time all the defects highlighted by the purchaser during the one time inspection.

If the purchaser has miss out any defects during the one time inspection and subsequently wanted to add on to the defect list. We will not entertain."

Now how can I check that the developer is not just taking "wash their hands" approach. My main concern is on the defects that will not be readily evident during a one time inspection, but may lead to significant cost to rectify. Example of these latent defects are:
1) Concealed aircond ducting is leaking, leading to the need to hack the walls and redo the piping. Wet patches will take time to appear, after regular use of the air conditioners.
2) All electrical wiring is functional ( no light fittings are installed as yet, so unless you can have someone check each and every point with us witnessing it)
3) The adequacy of water seal in the bathrooms, both from the upper floor apartment to the apartment I am purchasing and from my apartment to the apartment below – this is particularly important as rectifying this involves the hacking of tiles in the bathroom, which is not only costly, but can very messy. If it is not rectified, there can be major damage to the apartment below as well, and I do not want to be liable for repairs in the apartment below. Since the apartment above is also not occupied, there is no way of telling if there will be an issue upon a single inspection.

The one time inspection will only address patent defects that are easily observable. Can anyone advise me if I have a valid legal position to ask for a period rather than a single defect request? Any other advice?

The S&P lawyer is being paid for by the developer. Is the stakeholder sum applicabale in my case?

What other defects should I look out for? My unit is on the 29th floor.

Thanks!
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post Mar 22 2013, 10:27 AM

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Hi,

May I know anyone here successfully convince the developer to rectify the 'hollow tile' defect.

My new house got 3 of this tile. I'm not yet send the damage report, just wonder if the reluctant to fix it.
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:27 AM

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It would be better if u all just find a trusted contractor to check or repair cause mostly the would do a shoddy job in repairing your so it would be advisable to a outside contractor to repair or seeking opinion

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QUOTE(koinibler @ Mar 22 2013, 10:27 AM)
Hi,

May I know anyone here successfully convince the developer to rectify the 'hollow tile' defect.

My new house got 3 of this tile. I'm not yet send the damage report, just wonder if the reluctant to fix it.
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If your unit is still under Defect Liability Period, then the developer is liable to rectify your unit at no cost. However, if no respone from the developer after your notice is served, then you might need to tell the developer that you will be engaging 3rd party to rectify the defects charge the full cost to you.

Hope it helps.
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post Jun 20 2013, 01:45 PM

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some developer cincai fix the defect, in the end make the things more worse..
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post Jun 29 2013, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Dec 23 2006, 01:14 AM)
2) Tiles & Floor
The Tiles & Floor include kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, floor tiles and cornices.

Tiles - Missing/Cracked/Chipped/Slanting

Missing and damaged Tiles & Floor are easy to spot for defects. However it's not easy to check for hollow tiles which are due too little plaster underneath.

The danger is the tiles can come off or crack if not remedied. Tap on tiles and if they sound hollow mark it out as a defect anyway and get the contractor to fix it.

Also make sure that the joints between the tiles are properly filled in with plaster. If you notice deep gaps make sure they fill it in.

Gaps in the Wall Skirting
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Not many other defects on the tiles everything is fine as far as I can tell!

3) Doors & Windows

Doors and Windows are fairly easy to check. Ensure that doors and windows easily open and unobstructed. Check for shoddy workmanship like missing screws, damage and rust.

Also ensure that everything is properly installed and there are no large gaps between the door and window frames. It's also a good time to check for water damage since windows not properly installed will leak during heavy downpour.

Check also that rubber seals for the windows are intact.

4) Miscellaneous Fixtures

Check the developer's inventory list for missing fixtures and accessories. You'll usually get a list of items that come with your home such as the number of electrical points, taps, sink, shower heads and etc.

Check the list thoroughly and make sure nothing is missing!

BEFORE:

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AFTER:

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Yup the sink was missing tongue.gif so was the wiring, seems some gawd damn thief carted away those items from our finished unit.

5) Leaking Pipes

Leaking Pipes are also easy to detect, check the exposed piping for leaks or walls where the pipes run through for water stains.

Query the developer on where the pipes in your unit are; in future it will help to prevent accidents due to accidental nailing or drilling. You don't want to hang a picture frame and puncture a pipe all in one go. tongue.gif

I'll end it here, I'll start inspecting more of the unit tomorrow and post extra pictures once I'm done.

Feel free to comment and suggestions/improvements are welcomed!

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post Jun 29 2013, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Dec 25 2006, 06:39 AM)
this is a great topic!

drawing from experience, it is a good practice for buyers to inspect the house personally, preferrably with the construction drawings approved by the architect(s) in hand the whole time. problems highlighted by aaron in this topic are mostly superficial, although it does make ur house look "cheaper" than what u've spent.

however, it is my experience that contractors sometimes could make such a huge error, for example, missing a floor beam! before applying for CF, usually architects will do a thorough inspection of each and every house in the development. but inspecting 500 houses in a week can be tiring, and even architects can miss such errors.

and do take extra care on "cracks". there are several types of cracks, most commonly are plaster cracks, which is virtually small matter and can just be patched with fillas and painted over. other cracks can be structural, which something u must pay attention to. it's very hard to differentiate even for the experienced.
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will people take photos in the demo house and compare after completion?


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post Jun 29 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(ectt @ Jun 29 2013, 01:13 PM)
will people take photos in the demo house and compare after completion?
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of course! i dont see why people shouldnt. well i did when i bought my house.
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post Jun 29 2013, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ Jun 29 2013, 09:22 PM)
of course! i dont see why people shouldnt. well i did when i bought my house.
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yes, agree to record as a proof to compare
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QUOTE(ectt @ Jun 29 2013, 09:13 PM)
will people take photos in the demo house and compare after completion?
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Absolutely. They have a right to compare what has been promised and what was delivered at the end, am I right?

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post Jul 23 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(ectt @ Jun 29 2013, 09:13 PM)
will people take photos in the demo house and compare after completion?
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Make sense if your unit is exactly the same as shown. But nowadays, they will built Type A. But they offers Type B,C,D,E for sales. Then it's not a fair comparison.

And you can't compare a furnished demo house even if it's the same as yours. Reason being, it is quite well written that minor renovation was done to accommodate certain things and demo house is for 'reference'/'visual representation' only. The clause is always there. The kitchen normally is the most obvious.
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post Jul 23 2013, 07:50 PM

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Are we need check 1 by 1 tiles to make sure no empty cement inside?

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