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 LYN Christian Fellowship V11 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.

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tinarhian
post Feb 17 2016, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 17 2016, 09:41 PM)
Can't remember anymore hahaha laugh.gif

When I first talked to him his nephew was not even born. Now he's like 6-7 years old.
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That's really long time. I wouldn't even want to date the same guy for more than 1 year.
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post Feb 17 2016, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 17 2016, 07:57 AM)
[size=9]Psalm 10:4 (NIV)

29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. [B]They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.[/b]
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I think in churches some members have this traits. Not murder of course. God forbid. sweat.gif
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post Feb 17 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 17 2016, 10:54 PM)
I think in churches some members have this traits. Not murder of course. God forbid.  sweat.gif
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Psst, resenting and/or holding unto anger is murder.
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 17 2016, 02:55 PM)
Please pray with me that one day my boyfriend and his family will see the real Jesus and return to God, amen smile.gif
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Okay but you hold the title deed to your claims. Believe it's a done deal in Christ.

QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 17 2016, 10:54 PM)
I think in churches some members have this traits. Not murder of course. God forbid.  sweat.gif
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Every Christian (You and I ) started from that background, sinners. Not all of us automatically change over night. Change is always a journey in life. Only thing is some people grow slower, some very much slower than others.

Here is the key difference, unbelievers cannot change no matter how strong their will power is and do not see a need for and neither may desire for a change; so this depravity keep spiraling on.
Believers on the other hand have the Holy Spirit in them to help them be a changed person and can appeal to God for a desire to change.

Another thing is, we have to dispense grace as how God gave us his grace. When they accepted Christ, we need to see them as how God see's them. If God calls them saved and Saint by the washing of his blood despite of their imperfection, then we also need to see them in the same light as how God sees them. This is the part Jesus says do not judge less you be judge, forgive and you'll be forgiven.

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post Feb 18 2016, 12:03 PM

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Romans 1:18-19 (NIV) - 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

There are plenty of evidences that God has left with us to help us see that He exist.

We have Jesus Christ, recorded historically. He is the Physical evidence of God. People who demand evidence just need to Look to Jesus Christ. Nobody could refute his existence. There are some who tried but all FAILED to proved otherwise, just mere word of saying he doesn't exist does not prove anything. We have archeological evidence of Christ, We have History record of Christ. Jesus Christ is a real person who came. Study his life on Earth, you'll easily see He displayed the divine nature and power of God. Before the inventions of magic trickery through gadgets, nobody could walk on water. Nature obeyed Him at his word. The dead came back to Life. People afflicted with all kind of Illness, Health problems, terminal health condition were made Whole by his touch or word. Only a God can do all these.

There are just too many books and autobiography of the past saints of God confirming the works and divine nature of God. Recently I came across a book that talked about a Saint who raised 400 dead people and it was recorded down in writing. There are many more others accounts of miracle that testify the reality of God. What I've experience in my own life is miniscule in comparison the awesome display of God's Power and YET it is still a miracle nonetheless. Miracles that confirmed what is said in the Bible is true.

Psalm 19:1 of David says: The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. The Creation of this world testify the reality of God. This world did not come by itself neither it can exist by itself. It does not make sense to say it has always existed. The concept of eternity does not make sense Scientifically. Evolution does not disprove God. It only confirm the wonderful works of God. God created the very first Humans and allow nature which is also his design to take it's course.

Then we have Israel. Everything that happens in this world, the focus has always been in the middle east with Israel as the star. Why is Israel important? Why are they so hated? Because Israel testify the evidence that God exist. How So? When the Jews possessed the land, that land prospered as a land flowing with Milk and Honey symbolising prosperity as blessed by God. Before that it was desolated land, dry land with no resources. The people who lived there before, couldn't do what the Jews did. The Jew influence the world with their inventions, they are one of the most brilliant people on the planet. They are blessed and prospered tiny nation with God backing them up. The 6 days war PROVED that God is with Israel, multiple nations came against attacking 1 small nation and yet Israel prevailed, defying logic. No powers on Earth could destroyed Israel If God would not permit it. Not even Hitler.

Then We have the Church as the greatest testimony to this lost World. The Church is the Body of Christ meaning the physical manifestation of who God is. We now represent His Kingdom. It is not a surprise we are the largest religion in the world because God is the who pulls in the people and the resources. Nobody can gathered that many people and yet can be united in prayers and came together as one If not for God as the one supporting and backing up His people. The world's organization can only last so long. Even centuries old company are at most centuries old. The Church is the testimony that God is real.

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post Feb 18 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 18 2016, 09:08 AM)
Okay but you hold the title deed to your claims. Believe it's a done deal in Christ.

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./blink blink blink blink

Uh...??? Sorry, but I don't understand rclxub.gif

Why am I holding a deed?
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post Feb 18 2016, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 18 2016, 09:08 AM)
Okay but you hold the title deed to your claims. Believe it's a done deal in Christ.
Every Christian (You and I ) started from that background, sinners. Not all of us automatically change over night. Change is always a journey in life. Only thing is some people grow slower, some very much slower than others.

Here is the key difference, unbelievers cannot change no matter how strong their will power is and do not see a need for and neither may desire for a change; so this depravity keep spiraling on.
Believers on the other hand have the Holy Spirit in them to help them be a changed person and can appeal to God for a desire to change.

Another thing is, we have to dispense grace as how God gave us his grace. When they accepted Christ, we need to see them as how God see's them. If God calls them saved and Saint by the washing of his blood despite of their imperfection, then we also need to see them in the same light as how God sees them. This is the part Jesus says do not judge less you be judge, forgive and you'll be forgiven.
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Yeah so different people require different spiritual growth. Kinda like my brother. He's smart but likes to ask universal questions regarding God, life, etc..

So how do you expect non believers to "acquire" the Holy Spirit? I mean besides praying of course.

My older sister is beginning to lean towards God now. Thank goodness! I almost lose hope for her.


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post Feb 18 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 17 2016, 02:55 PM)
Please pray with me that one day my boyfriend and his family will see the real Jesus and return to God, amen smile.gif
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amen biggrin.gif
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post Feb 19 2016, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 18 2016, 09:35 PM)
./blink blink blink blink

Uh...??? Sorry, but I don't understand  rclxub.gif

Why am I holding a deed?
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Your Faith is the Title Deed to claim what you have prayed to God.

QUOTE(tinarhian @ Feb 18 2016, 09:45 PM)
Yeah so different people require different spiritual growth. Kinda like my brother. He's smart but likes to ask universal questions regarding God, life, etc..

So how do you expect non believers to "acquire" the Holy Spirit? I mean besides praying of course.

My older sister is beginning to lean towards God now. Thank goodness! I almost lose hope for her.
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Non Believers all have the stigma of Sin and thus has this resistance & sometime hatred towards God.

Unless someone pray for God to work in their life to be open, they cannot receive the Holy Spirit.

You MUST pray for your family, it's not an option.
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post Feb 19 2016, 09:10 AM

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Hebrews 12:5 (NIV)

5 And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It says,

“My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,


In the context of Hebrews 12:5, If you read the preceding verse 4, God still call you as his children despite of your imperfection. Child of God means one who is saved.
Herein Lies the evidence that even though you may fail (meaning to "sin") in your Christian walk you are STILL Saved. This is not about Calvinism vs Arminianism theology but Word of God as it is.

Verse 4 says: 4 In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood


What verse 4 & 5 is basically saying in simple English is this:

You don't really have the tenacity & strength to resist Sin because you have not done it to the point of chopping off your arm or gouging out your eyes and yet You have forgotten this encouragement, that God still calls you as his Son & Daughter despite of your struggle. Don't think When God discipline you in your life to avoid coming in contact with things that can cause you to sin is nothing in essence. Look at it from the viewpoint of a Loving Father. It will help you not grow weary and lose heart.

So Endure this disciple even though it is uncomfortable because by this discomfort, you know God is treating you as Sons & Daughters that He Love. You are DEFINITELY SAVED, dearly beloved.

God Bless.





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post Feb 19 2016, 02:36 PM

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25 Famous Scientists who believed in God.
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post Feb 19 2016, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 19 2016, 02:36 PM)
Eh? I thought Einstein is agnostic?

Issac is really faithful, that I know. Sad that mercury poisoning eventually made him completely cuckoo sad.gif
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post Feb 19 2016, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 19 2016, 04:02 PM)
Eh? I thought Einstein is agnostic?

Issac is really faithful, that I know. Sad that mercury poisoning eventually made him completely cuckoo sad.gif
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Einstein is a Jews
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post Feb 19 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 19 2016, 04:07 PM)
Einstein is a Jews
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I know he's ethnically a Jew but his spiritual inclination kinda vague from what I've heard.
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Feb 19 2016, 04:08 PM)
I know he's ethnically a Jew but his spiritual inclination kinda vague from what I've heard.
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Only God know, whatever we heard from news is just merely rumours unless it was said the by the person himself
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post Feb 19 2016, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 19 2016, 04:10 PM)
Only God know, whatever we heard from news is just merely rumours unless it was said the by the person himself
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True also....

Make you wonder huh? Whether or not we'll see him in heaven biggrin.gif

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post Feb 21 2016, 09:32 AM

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State should stay out of religion – Ahmad Mustapha Hassan* (press secretary to Tun Abdul Razak Hussein, the second prime minister) Published: 13 February 2016

Politics has become a curse to this country. It was no longer a means to achieve good governance and reliable state management. It had been turned into a source of power to inflict evil on the people.

Power had been misused to enrich those in high positions.

Independence had been turned into making the country socially and culturally backward.

Religion has become the source of amassing influence. The Malays were pushed into being servile, leading to a siege mentality.

They were made to lose their power of rational thinking. They had been made to totally accept what the powers that be had committed.

During the early days of independence, the country experienced religious tolerance and ethnic understanding. There were lots of merrymaking whenever occasions present themselves. Dances and singing were common happenings.

Fun fairs would make their rounds in various towns. There would be games for the children and at night there would be dancing to the various melodious Malay tunes. Joget dancing was the order then.

Hostesses would sit in line on the stage and those interested in doing the joget could purchase tickets and go up to pick the dancing partner of his choice.

There would be joget and later this would be termed as joget moden because Western tunes had also been incorporated. There would be the old ronggeng, the precursor to joget and in the north, there would be changgong from Perlis and ramvong, joget dancing to Thai music.

People were able to dispense with all the stress of life during the day through these fun outlets. There were no cases of rape, incest and such other devilish happenings.

In big cities like Penang and Kuala Lumpur, there were cabarets whereby working people would be able to get rid of the stress of work.

This was the place where enterprising people would practise their flair for Western dancing.

They would do the various dances, such as foxtrot, waltz, quickstep, rumba, samba, tango and other new trends.

Competitions were also held and all were in good fun.  

Religion was never part of public dominance. It was a private matter.

That was when religion and the state were completely separated.

The Islamic religious departments were only involved in family matters, such as marriage, divorce and inheritance. Other aspects were left to the discretion of the people. Religion was never forced into the everyday life of the people.

Malay-Muslim children from young would attend afternoon Islamic religious classes where the various aspects of the religion were made known to them. The emphasis was that it was the individual that was answerable to Allah and not to anybody else.

But Umno’s rivalry with PAS for the support of the Malay-Muslims caused both these political parties to accuse one another of being non-Islamic and thus the devil was let loose.

Once PAS started to accuse Umno of being deviant in its Islamic stand and had also convinced some conservative Malays of the sins practised by Umno, the latter in the 1980s turned into being fanatical in its Islamic agenda.

The Islamisation of the country started to take shape.

Tudung suddenly appeared as part of the so-called female Islamic attire.

Dances were no more encouraged. Life had been made to be austere.

Islamic religious departments were expanded and new ones created like Jakim. Religion had been made to be part of the state.

Malay-Muslim life had been regulated.

Money and power were invested in these religious institutions and with power in hand more regulations were manufactured. Halal certificates became necessary to indicate to the Malay/Muslims as to which places they could patronise.

This was simply to exhibit the power that these institutions had.

The Umno government became victim to the whims of PAS and there was no need for PAS to govern the country as Umno was implementing its agenda.

The Malay culture was termed to be deviant to Islamic values and the Arabic culture started to seep in. There were no more “selamat pagi” or “selamat dating”. All terms must be in Arabic.

Politicians in starting their speeches would rattle off in Arabic for a few minutes to show off how Islamic they were before coming to what they wanted to deliver. The same would be in ending their speeches.

The Malay-Muslim in the country became obsessed with rituals and other humanistic aspects of religion were discarded. Thus they became arrogant and aggressive in displaying their Muslim-hood.

This is nothing but mere hypocrisy. 

Religion should be personal. The state should have no say in regulating Malay-Muslim life.

What each individual does, drinks, eats and wears is up to each individual to choose as long as there exists no criminal element.

The state must divorce itself from religion.

The country must go back to be secular and let religion be the choice of individuals.

There should be only one legal system and to have two running in the country has caused confusion where even the learned cannot distinguish between consent, conversion and conscience. – February 13, 2016

. * Ahmad Mustapha Hassan was press secretary to Tun Abdul Razak Hussein, the second prime minister. * This is the personal opinion of the writer
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post Feb 22 2016, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 19 2016, 08:29 AM)
Your Faith is the Title Deed to claim what you have prayed to God.
Non Believers all have the stigma of Sin and thus has this resistance & sometime hatred towards God.

Unless someone pray for God to work in their life to be open, they cannot receive the Holy Spirit.

You MUST pray for your family, it's not an option.
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I know my parents must have prayed for me because I was the rebellious child. I thanked God for showing me the way of life and I did a 360° with my life. Alas my father died before he can see my wedding. sad.gif

My brother is a tough one. Because he spends most of his time with playing games, and his GFs. How the heck do I convince him to turn to God? Because during the weekend we would go to see our local football team play. brows.gif

On Sunday only me and my mum go to church. The bloody wanker would just sleep till we come back from church.

I shall continue to pray for my family. Hopefully my mum relatives (mostly Buddhists) can sway too. hehe..


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post Feb 22 2016, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Feb 19 2016, 02:36 PM)
Wow! 5 Germans (plus 1 German born) scientists.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Feb 21 2016, 09:32 AM)
My mum told me that Malaysia was so different in the 60s - 80s. She said life was so simple and everybody mingled with each other without fear.



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