yeap very true sadly, racial hatred become wide spread due to politics

Keep Praying, Don't give up.

It is the Power of God'S Salvation for those who believe in God.

The world cannot understanding and neither can see this privilege.

https://www.facebook.com/uju.okezuruonye/vi...84682531597413/

If God exists, why doesn't He stop rapists from raping?
Why doesn't He stop suicide bombers from bombing?

Shay He has all the power?

Abi is He indifferent?

Then, why worship Him?

Are these your questions?

Dr Zacharias, by the Holy Spirit, doth answer thee.

Watch.

PS:
Seated beside Daddy Ravi is Professor John Lennox, a British Mathematician, Philosopher of Science, Christian Apologist and Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford.

God's gat people, mehn.
God's gat people.😎

This post has been edited by De_Luffy: Feb 23 2016, 10:58 AM

Always Love his answers.

Spot On.

Problem are the Atheists in this forum copying what the antics of Sam Harris or Bill Maher who don't want to listen.

ANSWER is already there but they don't want to and cannot listen.

I heard this many a time. Some said, Oh God hasn't open his eyes yet or God haven't touch him yet.

So theoretically, can one say, he is a non-believer bcos God haven't touch him or open his heart? So no fault of theirs?

I am always confuse on this one. I am a believer because I have experienced the miracle of God.

My son used to go to church at one point and I was kind of surprise and proud of him too.

It started many years ago when 1 of this friend invited him. So one day he decided to go and meet his friend there.

The funny thing is since there's a couple of church there, he went to the different church that was attended by this friend and he continue attending the same church for, I would say, a couple of years.

Then for some reason, he stopped and he begin to view Christian negatively and in a bad light.

Honestly, some of his point I do kind of agreed with him and I did advise him that those are not the fault of God but human itself but to no avail.

We use to argue alot on this matter and I came to realise that I need to back down else its going to make him hate Christian more.

So I am waiting for him to go back to God before its too late.

I don't want to force my 2 kids to accept God like other religion do.

I myself used to attend churches during my teen and after I hd moved from place to place I kind of stop because I just can't find the right one.

This post has been edited by Blindspot61: Feb 23 2016, 12:07 PM

What did your son say that causes him to view Christianity negatively and do you pray for him often?

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 23 2016, 12:27 PM

You see, the problem is with the people. They fail to understand that whatever they said or do, they are bearing witness as children of God. Some of them (not teen mind you but older person) said thing that hurt his feeling.

No, my son is not the sensitive type. He can take 'joke' with stride. The good point about my son is I find he is a very polite person. He greet people, instantly even when he sees neigbour who are few doors away who hardly can hear him!

Of course he had his fair share of down side too. You know, young man, kind of ego but usually not to those who is not close.

One of the main reason I myself did not attend churches is because of almost the same reason but I did not let him know. Hypocrisy. Now before you go telling me do not judge people, this is the most glaring problem most of the people who attended churches today are. And the reason many would be believer being turn off from accepting God.

My only word of advise I can give him is you cannot burn the whole forest just because of a few bad trees.

This post has been edited by Blindspot61: Feb 23 2016, 02:37 PM

Yes every christians are bearing as christ's representative, true but even Paul made this astounding statement that helped me (in understanding) to properly divide
how to view Church and Christians.

Philippians 3:8 (NIV) - What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ.

A Pastor, Deacon, whichever christian can only go so far to be representative of who Christ is but They cannot be our very Lord Jesus Christ, no matter what.
As Christians we still need to look to Christ instead of looking to people as role model in Church and especially in Church!

And that is the key difference in helping us to stay in Church or stay away from Church. And I think I've said before prayer for your family is not an option, you have to pray everyday. And I think it's worth repeating this, if you want to see change then get on your knees and pray aggressively because that is what help us connect to God everyday.

With that being said; I mean consider the Apostles, even they admonished the church of that time not to look to them but to Christ.

Acts 14:15 (NIV) - "Friends, why are you doing this? We too are only human, like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything in them.

Acts 10:26 (NIV) - But Peter made him get up. "Stand up," he said, "I am only a man myself."

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 23 2016, 01:17 PM

Well, I don't think he is looking up for anyone as a role model.

I strongly believe those who are so pious as to attend churches without fail should at least 'check' on themselves constantly which is very important for Christianity to be accepted by new believer.

My take. You don't go round telling non-believer how good your God is without asking. You should bear witness to others how good your God is and let them ask you about it.

My only hope is that in time to come when he is more mature he will go back to God.

Maybe he's looking up to you as one. If you don't go, he may also find it not much of a reason to go.

Yes every Christian should check themselves but I can confidently tell you, none of them are perfect, no one is. In this area we should all exhibit grace and be forgiving because we must remember even yourself and myself we're not perfect, we need as much grace as they do.

I'm not talking about people who on purpose exhibit contradictory lifestyle but people who desire change, understand the gospel but still on a journey with God may have make mistake at times. These we should be forgiving but you if hold them tight with high expectation THEN you need to check yourself if you qualify to judge them, whether your own log in the eye has been taken out.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Feb 23 2016, 03:00 PM

I guess somehow this could be attribute to some funny reason that when people are Christian, they are automatically associated with being 100% Christian or Christ-like but in fact like all other religions, Christians are always on the journey of learning.
Another reason is probably because of the contradiction that was said. They said such and such are sins, but they themselves did those and still dare to condemn others. I guess this is why people are irked.

Anyway, I learnt a lot from conversations here

Erm, how do you know they have done the same sin?

It's just like one of the case where a leader condemns extra marital affair and he did it himself. I'm not saying the Church is wrong in this case, but rather why people would feel the hypocrisy from the things some people did. Well, I take these accounts as a lesson, that when we try to tell someone who did something wrong, check on ourselves whether we did the same mistake too, and what we did to correct it. It makes the advice more convincing.

Actually I did not ask to explain what you mean by "checking yourself", I'm well aware of what it means but how do you know if a leader has committed a sin he preached against?

That's a different question.

coz it happened. and then that. but why do u wanna know? Are you trying to find out if it's true?

It's alright then, doesn't matter.

I'm just thinking about apostle Peter who was reinstated despite him betraying Jesus even though He said He will never leave Him.

actually, what happened between him not recognizing Jesus for three times and after he is reinstated.
I guess probably he regretted a lot. But I could not find reference as to how the story goes.

And also, do u think Pontius Pilate is the bad guy? Coz I find it rather "odd" when reciting the Apostle's Creed. I always think of him less "bad" but more "political". And I never understand why there are so many people wanted Jesus dead.

Well, like I said 'I don't think he is looking up for anyone as a role model' and not even me.

Let me get this straight ok. I am not asking for those so call pious christian to be perfect or anyone else to be perfect. No one is perfect. But do 'DO onto others what you want other to do upon you' is my motto here.

I notice that usually, usually those who profess/present themselves to be 'close' to God are the one who are most 'disgraceful' in a sense. They seems to think that what they do or act are in God's approval. The same goes to those practicing other religion too.

And THIS 'These we should be forgiving but you if hold them tight with high expectation THEN you need to check yourself if you qualify to judge them, whether your own log in the eye has been taken out.' is something which I know will be said sooner or later.

Yes, yes, and yes, we are not perfect but how do you differentiate between a comment and a 'judgement'? I know what God said about judging others. In life, we make decision by 'judging', don't we not? 'Judging' in a good way. There's no progress without good judgement.

I don't go to church for donkey years now but I am not a backslider and I am always being criticized by some so called pious christian for not going to church (not saying you).

Acknowledge THAT is the problem and issue needed to be address and not kill the messenger by saying 'if hold them tight with high expectation THEN you need to check yourself if you qualify to judge them, whether your own log in the eye has been taken out.'

So, the bottom line is, pastors should take note and do the necessary to make churches the true house of God.

He was more on fire for God so to speak understanding the Grace of God which is really the essence of the Gospel. What happened to him has recorded account in the book of Acts.

I think Pontius didn't want to crucify Jesus but was forced by peer pressure from the High Priest Gang. If you ask me I don't think he's really a bad guy but then that's human pov.

Example, A study engineering and B no between he didn't attend classes. So, shouldn't we expect A to understand basic engineering subject better than B? Thats my logic.

A goes to churches without fail while B no. Shouldn't we expect A to have at least know some basic knowledge of how to carry oneself or 'the way of life' to be a Christian. I am not talking about able to recite the whole book of Matthew or John for that matter.