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post Sep 25 2020, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Sep 25 2020, 10:20 AM)
Cause go all-in gaming. No plantations, no energy.

Focus risk for focus returns.
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Big balls to go in now when the borders are still closed with no phase 3 approved vaccine production ongoing
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post Sep 25 2020, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 25 2020, 12:12 PM)
Don't get me wrong. Gloves is still the only business that guarantee huge huge profit for in this 2 to 3 years. If you willing to hold that long, and your cost is low, hold it by all mean.

I want to take back my funds and prepare for the gameplan to take advantage of the current political uncertainty.

My group of friends have bigger funds than me so I need to clear my glove to join them.

I have a nightmare when I don't have funds to get in harta from the last dip when they are all buying like crazy.

I have mentioned spmx and harta will be better than TG in terms of price increase % because they are so undervalued.

I learned my lesson so I am readjusting my funds allocation.

I still queue my 1st batch for glove stocks but at lower price.
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Guaranteed huge profit for another 1 year and 3 months. ASP normalization coming in FY22
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post Sep 25 2020, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Sep 25 2020, 02:20 PM)
Yup. I still don’t see increase in banker holdings in gloves so hot money will most likely be gone by today and stay on the sidelines to observe the progress at Sabah.

This will cause volatility in gloves and as usual, I want to maximise my opportunity cost. Money loss/less profit can always get back, time loss can never get back. I don’t want to let my funds sit there unproductively. Got a chance to get out, I grab it.

Anyway that’s my way of operation, others may prefer other way. It’s completely up to your preference.
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Where do you get the numbers?

Weak holders number
banker holdings
etc
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post Sep 28 2020, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 28 2020, 09:06 AM)
Maybank up 6 cents.
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Retailers were still selling. Local institution was the only net buyer last trading day. Dont panic buy, continue wait until all weak holder are forced flushed via loan repayment
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post Sep 28 2020, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 28 2020, 09:23 AM)
price is 8.89, but they wanna buy at 9.5?
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Fake buy queue to lure inexperienced FOMO buyers
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post Sep 28 2020, 09:37 AM

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look at how strong MAHB share price is despite the trash QR. And, EPF is buying heavily in Sept trying so hard to keep MAHB share alive LOL
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post Sep 28 2020, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 28 2020, 09:40 AM)
it is partial your money too hahah
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Indirectly force us to take money out there to invest in EPF approved unit trust
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post Sep 28 2020, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Sep 28 2020, 10:06 AM)
Now is retailer zao lou
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Depending which stocks local institutions buy, might stuck high for them later nod.gif brows.gif

Bye bye EPF money
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post Sep 28 2020, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(joeblow @ Sep 28 2020, 07:07 PM)
Asking all the pros here. Suppose the Sabah covid outbreak extends to whole Malaysia and another MCO is called, can our govt survive this with all the freebies given out? More importantly what will happen to the stock market?

I am quite vested now in banking, BAT, Tenaga (just bought today then got the news then regret) plus some old shares bought ages ago. I dare not go into gloves for now. What do you think will happen to the stock market if another round of MCO gets called? My investment is for retirement, hence only blue chips with strong dividend payout.

Please refer to CIMB FB, not sure why CIMB is always the bank to get covid cases. I remember them getting it very early of the first outbreak and now again.... and I am very heavily vested in CIMB shares... sad.
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Tenaga should be alright (might remain depressed for quite sometime due to less electricity usage as a result of minimal business activity)
Banking should be alright, now they are getting cash flow back from end of moratorium (might drop more if NPL spike is more than expected; loan growth outlook is bleak - I might be wrong on the growth outlook because loan was growing in past few months, maybe PENJANA triggered loan growth from the auto sales)

BAT is a hopeless stock
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post Sep 29 2020, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 29 2020, 12:16 PM)
Gomen is likely to introduce new tax and higher tax rate in next budget in November.
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Sadly vacancy tax is not introduced... I was excited thinking that this time the property market finally have chance to mini crash with 48000 unsold units.
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post Sep 29 2020, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Sep 29 2020, 12:12 PM)
Banks are so green today.
Bad for gloves.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 29 2020, 01:02 PM)
Gloves dropping. No wonder harimau bank up
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Syndicate traders are swapping between gloves and banks? Might be a good idea to just buy both during deep dive.
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post Sep 29 2020, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(Deathscythe@@ @ Sep 29 2020, 12:01 PM)
moratorium ending soon and ppl cashing out?
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Definitely just look at the volume, already decrease 70% from peak volume. Will be harder to trade later.

But, it is actually good for the economy. Money making ways to the banks, allow 'new money creation' when they make loans
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post Sep 29 2020, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 29 2020, 01:24 PM)
Enforcing vacancy tax won't be easy.

Overhang/idling in subsale or secondary market is >2 times of primary. If you are not too choosey and have time, should be able to find one within your budget.
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Very choosy because buying 1 is a very big commitment. Still using the 'wait-and-see' approach, to see if there is a sudden spike in supply post moratorium that can depress the property market.

The below 5 combos that could drive the property prices even lower than the current pricing
- 48000 overhang
- more units to be completed soon (increase overhang units)
- potential supply spike post moratorium (forced selling due to inability to pay loan)
- depressed demand during recession
- possible work from home norm (lower than usual demand growth post covid)
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post Sep 30 2020, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 30 2020, 06:55 PM)
well, if u come to the conclusion that gloves are a fleeting thing, no future, all temp, u just treat it like any penny goreng stock and goreng it till kingdom come... we have seen that from june to sep... maybe less now... i bet a lot of people had fun, making profit or loss.

but if u come to the conclusion that gloves is a viable and profitable biz for the next 3, 5, 10 years, u buy n keep the shares, esp the market leaders.

EPF acquiring TG until 5.4% says something... maybe nothing for some.

i dunno enuf of EPF behavior, what they might do in the near future... so, i will be monitoring.
i also know EPF has acquired 5.13% in Riverstone (SGX) while the main shareholder-founder-chairman had been buying in open market, now holding >50%.

i have a lot of confidence in this "made-in-malaysia" product at this covid time... if i get it wrong, too bad la. biggrin.gif

again, like many have said... don't follow me - acquire, hold, keep.

u can sell, trade, goreng to your heart's content!! laugh.gif
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https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/epf-...ial-shareholder
EPF SOLD TG and harta in 14 April 2020. Is EPF trolling with our money?
After EPF ceased to become substantial shareholder back in APRIL 2020, TG and harta flew... Is EPF manipulated by some anonymous people out there for personal interest?
Why would EPF sold back then and buy back now? EPF's action is so confusing...

Same for Mahsing... After EPF ceased to become substantial shareholder in May 29, flew from RM0.47...

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post Sep 30 2020, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 30 2020, 09:52 PM)
just read this... plantations gonna get hammered tmr.
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US cant see malaysia prospering from this covid when they themselves are bleeding... Block gloves, block palm oil mega_shok.gif

Nice sharing AVFAN, thanks for keeping all of us updated nod.gif
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post Oct 2 2020, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(CSW1990 @ Oct 2 2020, 10:20 AM)
I am queueing TNb at 9.6.... plan to keep for long term (5yrs+) investment
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TNB is almost a monopoly business, can keep forever flex.gif
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post Oct 3 2020, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Oct 3 2020, 12:35 PM)
fintec is undervalued and people still dump like no tomorrow
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Because of this
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/spec...nny-stock-surge
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post Oct 3 2020, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 2 2020, 09:47 PM)
besides local glove counters movement today...

Riverstone +0.6%
UG Healthcare +13.3%
Sri Trang +5.7%
Mercator +2.2%
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VIP gloves in ASX no movement though

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post Oct 3 2020, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Oct 3 2020, 04:33 PM)
When retailers are ready to buy enmasse, syndicate will certain to push up price.
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Maybe no people push VIP gloves share price in Australia because covid there is almost back to single digit as they are going into summer soon.

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post Oct 3 2020, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Oct 3 2020, 09:13 PM)
No 2nd round of mco, luckily. But if thing turns our worse, then it might happen.

Just some heads up to u guys, better to have cash in hand for 2nd round of mco. Dun over invest. This 2nd round wont be like the 1st round, as no one will know can our country survive 2nd round or not.

The fact that we have highest number of cases these few days and yet we still not implementing mco speaks volume about the impact it will bring.
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If 2nd round mco is implemented, hopefully dividend stocks can crash to the prices similar to Asian Financial Crisis 1997/1998. Maybank was about RM1.8 at the trough during that period

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