QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Aug 7 2020, 09:46 PM)
-ve with banks, bought them too early, looked solely at fundamentals when the PEs were close to 10 (for long term investment), did not take market sentiment (trading hype, 0 fundamentals decisions, anti-banks) into account. Burned my hand
+ve with takaful, but could have bought them at lower price, again I am very bad at technical analysis. Didnt know (still dont know) how to find good entry price so just bought at the price offered (BAD MOVE). Now that I have learnt that, I queue my counters 5-10% lower than its current price. if it hits, i get, if it doesnt, use the money to buy other counters
Considered to topup more, but looking at the market sentiment now, I do not see the rush of topping up.
Waiting for Sept 30, with the hope of gloves selldown (bull-turned-bear market sentiment) will help crashing my counters even more, to top up at even cheaper later

. Others might think that I am psychotic hoping the market will crash the counters I own, but the way I see it is more free discounts.
I considered to buy Genting too. But maybe after 2020, theme park (extra revenue) will be ready in 2H2021. Dont see the rush to buy in now with this market sentiment (trading hype, 0 fundamentals decisions). Might drop more than banks in the shorter term as casino and hospitality revenue wont resume as early as banks (forced loan repayment), which is good

, more cheap stocks to buy later for long term.
I am also queuing for another 4 counters that I see them as fundamentally strong undervalued companies. Still havent hit the price I want, praying for the market crash to help me to get at least 2 of these counters

. If I dont get, can always use to buy others later, no FOMO.
from this post I can roughly know your problem in investment. You miss the first step before going into FA.
QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Aug 7 2020, 10:09 PM)
To draw an analogy from Peter Lynch...
We will spend hours or days doing research when we want to buy a new handphone, laptop or tv. Would we decide in a few minutes to buy a new expensive laptop without doing any proper research? I don’t think so.
But then why do we spend thousands of ringgit to buy a share without knowing anything about the company. Sometimes we don’t even know what business the company is running or whether it is profitable or not.
When we buy a share without doing any research at all, then it is just pure gambling. It is like going to Genting playing blackjack or baccarat. When we lose, we don’t question why we got a small value card and not a ten. That is just the random way the dealer deals us a card.
So, when we goreng a stock with zero valuation, there is no logical reason when it limit up or limit down. It is just a case of more buyers than sellers ala Tulip mania. Just make sure we don’t end up holding the Tulip when the price crash.
I am just blowing water after a long day at work.

although there are hundred new posts a day, I basically skip reading them when I see get wording like Tomei, PohKong, DPharma, etc etc.
this can save up my time to filter useful shared information
QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Aug 7 2020, 11:01 PM)
quick comparison of the trading P/E (annualized latest quarter results) of peers who have announced their results.
Company: Top Glove / Harta / Careplus / Riverstone
Share price: 28.1 / 19.1 / 4.3 / 14.5
Q PAT RM mil: 348 / 220 / 21 / 138 (riverstone 6M results)
Annualized PAT RM mil: 1392 / 880 / 84 / 276
Market Cap RM bil: 76.1 / 65.5 / 2.3 / 10.8
Trading P/E: 54.7 / 74.4 / 27.6 / 39.1
If Supermax coming quarter results are: 400 / 500
Annualized PAT RM mil: 2000 / 3000
Market Cap RM bil: 31.1
Trading P/E: 19.5 / 15.6
(much cheaper valuation compared to the other 4 peers ranging from 27.6 to 74.4)
alternatively if we assume P/E of 30x and 40x
If Supermax coming quarter results are: 400 / 500
Annualized PAT RM mil: 2000 / 3000
TPs for RM400m PAT: RM35 to RM47 per share
TPs for RM500m PAT: RM44 to RM58 per share
don't need to guess quarter result.
you can be very accurate if you do homework every single working day.