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skty
post Jun 15 2020, 10:14 AM

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To hold or not to hold, you guys betting or done homework to backup your decision? Haha
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post Jun 15 2020, 11:40 AM

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good news. go buy glove stocks. many waiting for it to get push up.

lol.

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post Jun 15 2020, 12:17 PM

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you must know anything no fundamental backup speculation will finally go back to shape. And there are obvious reasons why it start going back to reasonable price.

the crazy glove sales cannot go on forever. look at how long delivery time of the orders on hand. And then do own thinking whether the Covid-19 will last until then or not. Keep on posting news of resurgence doesn't help. Their production capacity is already at the MAX.

and of course there are macroeconomic side of reasons which are also very obvious.

the question now is at what price is the current intrinsic value of the glove counters and it can be so easily calculated out. If you know that, you will know currently still holding to it is correct or not.

if you don't learn from mistakes, the tuition fee is wasted. Do some reflection and reasoning after mistakes. You will be a better investor in the future.

well, don't believe to what I just said. Maybe after I say this got some hot money come in to goreng again. Then another round of Happy Goreng Hour and I hope by then you will learn already. LOL
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post Jun 15 2020, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(infested_ysy @ Jun 15 2020, 09:02 PM)
Put all your money into Tenaga, Maybank and Topglove.

Thank me later
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lose liao find you ok ma? rclxs0.gif
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post Jun 16 2020, 11:25 AM

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there is always risk. what thing has no risk?

you buy at rm1, sell at rm8. I ask you, got risk or not?

got risk also, right? you risk of not making rm2 more if you sell at rm8 and then later the price rose to rm10.

speculator + margin play = unlimited risk.
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post Jun 16 2020, 10:18 PM

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buy buy buyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

hahaha

too bad this drop so little, margin of safety and my assumed intrinsic value doesn't appear yet in my shortlisted stock

damn sad

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post Jun 17 2020, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Jun 17 2020, 09:28 AM)
aiyo missed tg 15.92
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missed? you can buy now at 15.88. even more bargain than 15.92. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 17 2020, 10:36 AM

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now all the "gurus" in facebook that consistently pushing for glove counters for the past months, now all quiet. lol

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post Jun 17 2020, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(anakMY @ Jun 17 2020, 10:42 AM)
of course, already sold off at high prices to the students lol.
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hahahahaha.
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post Jun 17 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(siberfriend @ Jun 17 2020, 11:07 AM)
I doubt he has enough time to squeeze all the profit in this turbulence situation.

One thing for sure is no matter glove or sanitizer or mask... public or government or hospital will buy to keep enough stock in case another pandemic.. just like Sg started to collect mask after air pollution issue. Perhaps it will be a new norm like in Japan/Taiwan.. sikit sikit pun wear mask before pandemic...
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that's one way of viewing the current demand VS storage capacity + daily usage rate.

you can view it complete differently as well.
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post Jun 17 2020, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(theberry @ Jun 16 2020, 08:51 PM)
Tomorrow goreng counter magnum toto
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nobody goreng today eh? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2020, 05:17 PM

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Just when everyone is so optimistic calling buy buy buy when resurgence of pandemic appearing everywhere. Hahaha

There was a “famous seafood” went live yesterday in FB asking sarcastically everyone why need to scare to invest in glove stock now. Too bad nobody help push up the price today. Lol

I am not saying his mentality is wrong. If you are so confidence with your analysis, why don’t buy glove stock now when it’s cheaper than one week ago? Why still afraid by market votality at this moment? Only when you have not done any homework and just buy on tips and hear say and look see, then you will be panic selling.

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post Jun 18 2020, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jun 18 2020, 08:04 PM)
Free tip for you.

Have a look also at RCE Capital if you are looking for a good stock with good dividend payment.
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Bought FPI on bargain price on 18 March that already announced dividend around 10% on February but ex date is on April. what a steal, hahahaha

Prior to the price drop, the dividend used to be around 6~8% every year.

Once you tasted this farming outcome, speculator and active trading is simply no-make-sense to you in term of time consuming, affect emotion, high risk, cannot sleep. lol

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post Jun 25 2020, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(dest9116 @ Jun 25 2020, 08:07 AM)
This time drop 700 vs usual 100 and all other index red if no blood bath I cut kuku
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biggrin.gif thumbup.gif cut half can liao. tongue.gif rclxs0.gif
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post Jun 25 2020, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jun 25 2020, 10:07 AM)
Many Wall Street analysts are warning their clients that a Biden presidency will not be good for the stock market.

The former Vice President and presumptive Democratic nominee has pledged to roll back President Donald Trump’s signature tax cut legislation, which has boosted corporate profits.
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See things cannot see at one angle.

Corporate profits also can improve by a lot other factors that can be improved by higher corporate tax.

Corporate tax cut only benefit a small group of people.
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post Jun 26 2020, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jun 26 2020, 10:23 AM)
Singapore, Japan, Korea, Oz.... all +1%.

KLCI... zzzzzz.

MCO over, everyone gone back to work, working hard, no time for bursa?! biggrin.gif
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do you really think retail player can sustain the growth? biggrin.gif

institutional player is shifting their fund into growth stock.

it's advisable to be taught by licensed fund manager about investment so you will know how they think, what they emphasize on.

current false debt-free situation is very bad for the stock market in the long term but it makes everyone very positive about the market especially since they think they are pro investor after they managed to make money so "easily" from the market.

couple with GDP, LI, CI, CPI all showing bad periods ahead, I am not surprise to see speculator to lose money after the public see the real economic situation instead of the false debt-free situation.

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post Jun 26 2020, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2020, 03:14 PM)
Since 2015, BAT dividends totals...

[attachmentid=10524227]

2015 -- 312.00
2016 -- 278.00
2017 -- 169.00
2018 -- 155.00
2019 -- 118.00
2020 -- 50.00 **

** BAT dividend for 2020 so far is half year. Assuming same rate of payout, we are looking at total dividend of only 100.00 **
** clearly the dividends is declining like hell! **

from 2015 to currently, BAT has paid 1082.00 in dividend (ie rm10,820.00 per 1,000 shares)

.....
Price of BAT today is 10.76.

if one purchase or invested in BAT for its dividends about 5 years ago, the price of BAT on 23rd June 2015 is 60.80.

dividends collected is 1082
price today is 10.76

which means one is looking at a holding a loss of 39.22 (60.82-10.82-10.76) !!!!!

** if one purchase on 23rd June 2015, one collected less 176.00 in dividends, since these dividends were paid before June 2015!! **
so do be careful, do not simply invest just because of dividends !!!  Dividend investing has its fair share of risk!!!!
invested ~ 60k... for dividends... now losing 39k cos the share price has collapsed!!!
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 26 2020, 04:47 PM)
Quote: "Dividend investing has its fair share of risk!!!!"

One of the BIGGEST danger is looking at the quick snapshot of a company's financial. For BAT case, the quick snap will show that its dividend yield is more than 10%!!!

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The 118 sen is correct BUT it's based on the trailing twelve months... and with BAT rate of dividends falling rapidly, the 118 sen looks optimistic...

So obviously, one would ask "Mana boleh bro? More than 10% la, cannot lose money one bro... "

but with BAT earnings declining rapidly, its dividend declined rapidly too.... and with it, it's share price rolled down the hill.......

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so unless BAT earning and dividend improve for the better... perhaps it's better not to be blinded and seduced by the current Dividend Yield...
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future cashflow...
future cashflow...
future cashflow...
and yet I see people are recommending BAT and Astro. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 29 2020, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jun 29 2020, 11:00 AM)
for now just stay away from finance, properties, construction, consumer, plantation.

only certain tech, industrial, and reit is hanging on.
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oic. time to buy from finance, properties, construction, consumer, plantation.
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post Jul 7 2020, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(cofin @ Jul 6 2020, 02:15 PM)
My TG from 4.6 last year ..sell till left 20 lot ( still remember last year i tell my colleague buy he there making noise say when will 5 he want to sell) Now tell me regret selling at 5 doh.gif

My supermax from 3-4 ..buy coz see why not moving

My harta i buy in late at 11 ..also underdog wonder why all rising harta dropping

now regret LHI ....i sold off straight today become 0.93 wtf
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ya. As of last year, investor will know glove stock will be peaking this year.

But nobody would have thought of Covid19 happening and the way it push the price like this.

We are just expecting a norm 20%~30% increase in the cyclical period.

Its so crazy to see 300% capital appreciation in such a short period. Some of us even thinking of don't need to work anymore as the money earned already can achieve financial freedom.

But human is always greed. I remember to see my friend taking out all his previous earned money from the fund and re-enter again when the market was in fear last two weeks. I suppose he earn another round of crazy money again but it's just not the right way to invest. He lost his head as an investor and turned into a speculator I suppose.

As the ASP keep raising, the FPE is getting lower and lower as the time goes by. At this moment an opinion and consensus is formed by the market but I would think it's still underestimated.
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post Jul 8 2020, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jul 8 2020, 09:30 AM)
Good morning folks.

I think it is time for the glove stocks to undergo a healthy correction. It may not happen today or tomorrow but it should happen soon. In the meantime, the musical chair continues...

As Peter Lynch once said, it is time to exit the market when your dentist, your grandmother and your neighbour's dog start boasting about how much money they have made from the stock market.

Meanwhile, I am still eating my popcorn. smile.gif
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Sold d lo... haha
i use this thread as a good measures.
when got many people posting here buying, i start selling. biggrin.gif

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