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post Sep 9 2020, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 01:17 PM)
Now papers are reporting the OPR will be maintained....... which might be good for savers.... but bad news for traders.....
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QUOTE(MakNok @ Sep 9 2020, 01:31 PM)
Wow...
can buybank stock liao...
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Wait 2 more days la, no FOMO
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post Sep 9 2020, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Sep 9 2020, 03:03 PM)
If glove also cyclical stock, then need to wait awhile.

Now still high tide, need to wait until low tide to invest in cyclical stock.

If stretch longer, glove share price many are still 200 to 700% higher compared with Mar April price.
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Gloves are semi-cyclical, every pandemic, share price spike. This spike this year was nothing like before because covid is nothing like before

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post Sep 9 2020, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Sep 9 2020, 03:09 PM)
Then the fall back to normal also like nothing to before?  laugh.gif
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Will have to normalize, just a matter of time.

Buy counters that underperform now at their extremes, they will normalize too, just a matter of time

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post Sep 9 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 03:10 PM)
What are HB and HC? Some of the top gainers are them..... like TG-HB, Kossan-HB, Supermax-HC.....
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Put warrants
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post Sep 9 2020, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 03:12 PM)
Oh dear. That doesn't seem good.
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High risk high return. Cannot take this kind of risk then invest in dividend counters with SUSTAINABLE business e.g. PANAMY. Then, you can count how many years do you need to get back all the capital invested.
SUSTAINABLE (e.g. NTA, profit doesnt keep dropping)

PS: I dont have any sakes in panamy, just using it as an example

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post Sep 9 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(hellkvr @ Sep 9 2020, 03:58 PM)
sure no problem,

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Double top + lower high lower low in healthcare sector

All b4 gloves neckline broken.

What else do traders need to cut loss?
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post Sep 9 2020, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Sep 9 2020, 04:06 PM)
so boss, tech sector how ? haha
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Boss, my utc friend asking clients to move out of gloves and tech days ago into bonds. I tak tau sia. Maybe he waiting for signs in another sectors, then move the funds out back.

Most of the UT funds tak de plantation, so maybe he is asking ppl to stay in bonds/money market and wait 1st.

We wait 2mr see OPR decision and 11 sept on unemployment data, double +ve news only go in, but this cannot trade like gloves ah. This is for investment purpose
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 04:06 PM)
I read in a trading book somewhere. On average, a successful trader may only get it right in 2-3 trades out of 10 trades. But he will let his profit run and cut his losses early. You would know better than me.
Yes, you are right. Here in this forum, we have gamblers, speculators, day traders, swing traders, etc but no value investors.  tongue.gif
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Bro, I am a value investor laugh.gif
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post Sep 9 2020, 04:11 PM

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If OPR decision 2mr good, can close index short position already. Be alert at 3pm
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QUOTE(Kcee @ Sep 9 2020, 04:12 PM)
What is a good OPR decision?
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No more cuts as cutting is to spur economy recovery, no more cuts = economy recovery already going into the right direction
Then, it OPR no cut is supported by significant unemployment decline. You know that the economy recovery play is near.

If cut, just wait until BNM Nov MPC meeting

Some might want to put the money into work while waiting, you can put into money market fund (no fixed tenure), or bonds, or keep trading

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post Sep 9 2020, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Sep 9 2020, 04:18 PM)
I thought you are a chartist!  biggrin.gif
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At least need to understand the basics for charts to complement investment decision after FA
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post Sep 9 2020, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 9 2020, 04:40 PM)
pure FA no see chart punya.

tell Warren Buffet, see if he got see chart?  tongue.gif
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Hahaha, follow pure FA can die man, I bought some banks follow pure long term FA ignoring market sentiment. In the long run, I think I will be fine, but in the short run, drop until laosai already
To me, market sentiment is as important as FA FOR SHORT TERM bottom fishing. With TA, it might be able to help to fish at a lower price instead of following FA and buy below intrinsic value

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 9 2020, 04:44 PM)
what that kind of fund, he is the chart painter.
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post Sep 9 2020, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Sep 9 2020, 04:58 PM)
SuperMax after BI even worse....
from rm10 ..now almost RM7
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Follow FB sifu confirm die, just like follow property guru all bring to holland, stocks is still ok. wont bankrupt. Few who follow property gurus bankrupted already
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QUOTE(tehoice @ Sep 9 2020, 05:04 PM)
got story to share?
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Google AW, GC, u know la or just read lowyat Malaysia property guru. They made so many ppl suffer, yet they still living rich and ez life
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4759778/+1700
Read the whole thing when you have time
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post Sep 9 2020, 07:08 PM

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Good luck boys, if 2mr OPR cut futher, might bring back a little bit of liquidity back into the market
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post Sep 10 2020, 09:59 AM

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Rotational play already, cause gloves profit is not sustainable

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*Took this from traders corner lowyat (giving Boon3 the credit)

CIMB analyst predict the earnings normalization come in 2022.


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post Sep 10 2020, 10:00 AM

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Now, we just need to know where will the fund go in after gloves and tech run
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post Sep 10 2020, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Sep 10 2020, 10:00 AM)
Historically, about 70% of traders loss money.
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Not more than 90%? What I read online is 90% of traders lose money
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post Sep 10 2020, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Sep 10 2020, 10:01 AM)
Actually I think still high, as this revenue is not sustainable
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Harta hitting support level now, if break below 12, we will see RM7 in the making

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