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post Sep 8 2020, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(ComingBackSoon @ Sep 8 2020, 05:14 PM)
KLCI component that have largest daily gain (and probably gap up last minute - didn't check):

1) Axiata +6.27%
2) Hap Seng +2.88%
3) IHH  +7.37%
4) Maybank +3.31%
5) Petronas Dagangan +4.13%
6) TNB +2.35%

Find the common thing in those companies  bruce.gif
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LOL i see what you did there
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 8 2020, 06:01 PM)
my wild guess says it's a signal for beginning of the mark up stage as accumulated has completed.
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Wait for higher highs, higher lows confirmation

QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 8 2020, 06:03 PM)
like the inner circle already know what to be announced, hence sapu early.
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For retailers like us, we can only wait for actual announcement
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post Sep 8 2020, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 8 2020, 06:08 PM)
Does that include all other sectors also? *puppy eyes*
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Usually it is sector rotational play, there is only so much funds, but too many sectors, one sector up, the other one must go down.
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 8 2020, 06:57 PM)
the "FD+RM" nightmare is coming...

Report: Bank Negara expected to reduce OPR to record low of 1.5%
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ord-low-of-1-5/

WTI crude oil
37.88 -1.89 -4.65%.

i can see prices of food, essentials rising quick.

low CPI... is meaningless.

ya, go buy property and cars... cheap-cheap now.
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Car cheap cheap, make good use of the PENJANA benefits
Property still down trending, can wait 1-2 years more IMO
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Sep 8 2020, 07:21 PM)
Rumor = Fast track to holland
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Yeah, if rumors have the power to bring the counters fly so high to the price today,
Then rumors can also bring the counters dive perfectly like Pandelela Rinong

Take any rumors with a pinch of salt. Go into investing mode using FA, you will never go wrong.
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(prozfromhell @ Sep 8 2020, 07:23 PM)
maybe true ler.
Push down 50%, but rebound 30%. they still earn, those stay condo forever stay condo
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Nice view up there, have stories to tell grandchildren.
Inilah asset datuk beli untuk korang, nanti boleh jual untuk mas perkahwinan
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post Sep 8 2020, 07:50 PM

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Just to remind you guys, there was a day supermax spiked at last minute of trading, everyone thought big funds came back but in the end, it drops more and continues dropping.

If the same pattern happens, counters that spiked up this evening might drop more in the near term.
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post Sep 8 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(debonairs91 @ Sep 8 2020, 09:54 PM)
DJI -550 pts. Those holding better cut loss tomorrow morning if you dont want to become investor for 10 years
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QUOTE(zstan @ Sep 8 2020, 09:56 PM)
Lol... Still far far away from the March lows
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Cooper price is still rising, dont worry, the economy is recovering. Maybe DJIA going into correction mode only
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post Sep 8 2020, 09:59 PM

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I track cooper price daily, quite a good indicator to predict the economy health, and to some extent market crash. If cooper price starts dropping, I will inform you guys
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post Sep 8 2020, 10:01 PM

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my bad copper sweat.gif

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post Sep 8 2020, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Sep 8 2020, 10:24 PM)
Tesla is due for drop very long already. Its way over valued, and for it to have correction now sounds right.
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PE 1000x
when
Google, Microsoft, apple PE < 40.

Too overvalued, drop is the only direction
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post Sep 9 2020, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(infested_ysy @ Sep 9 2020, 12:21 AM)
Yeah, he is right on the fact that we should not look at PE ONLY.

Tesla revenue is growing, its EPS is low (and hence the high PE) as it is retaining its earnings (either in the form of cash or asset) for growth, but this price is still too high.
Seriously too high.

Money made after tax (not the reported earnings on balance sheet) is either give out as dividends or reinvested into a business (in the form of cash or asset), since it is not giving out any dividends, so in such as case, we can value it by looking at its expansion of book value (which then will reduce its P/B ratio)

Take the year-on-year increase in book value (assume massive tesla sales spike and n times the revenue it in the next 5 years) and project it for the next 5 years, how much is this the book value/share worth? does the future P/B looks attractive enough for a semitech semiautomaker company? the value of 'n', you need to find yourself lo
Tesla book value is now about 10

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post Sep 9 2020, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 08:15 AM)
How does retailers goreng Maybank up 24 cents in a flash? Unless a billionaire does it....
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KYY and his followers just switched counters?

QUOTE(theberry @ Sep 9 2020, 08:17 AM)
Yesterday they net Bought 96m brows.gif
Just a wild guess only.
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post Sep 9 2020, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 08:33 AM)
So, that means the other blues which went up at last minute are also by local institutions doing?
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Yesterday local instituion sold the most, foreing funds selling almost negligible, retailers bought the msot
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post Sep 9 2020, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(chino667 @ Sep 9 2020, 08:37 AM)
Yes. National team such as epf, khazanah, pnb pushing up last minute to close above 1500. Breakdown for you , local institution bought 2048.48 sold 2135.01= (-86.54)
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LOL then what did they sell? If they goreng the counters, they must have sold more somewhere else to have this -ve value
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post Sep 9 2020, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 12:19 PM)
Will there be any "assistance" later in the afternoon? Dropping to 2% for KLSE won't look very good.
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Everyday got money buy meh? Unless everday they sell non KLCI stocks and buy KLCI stocks lo

Imagine how much u earn shorting the index today flex.gif

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post Sep 9 2020, 12:23 PM

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Neckline
- Topglove: RM22.42 (RM7.47 after BI)
- Harta: RM15.56
- Supermax: RM 16.7 (RM8.35 after BI)
- Kossan: RM13.68 (RM6.84 after BI)

All below neckline already. Good luck my brothers/sisters
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post Sep 9 2020, 12:30 PM

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IB analysis cannot pakai one. I last time also kena. When you see there is a trend change (number of buy calls start reducing and number of hold calls start increasing), then can get out ady.

Same for counters, when they are changing from sell to hold, then you can slowly go in already.
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post Sep 9 2020, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Sep 9 2020, 12:41 PM)
The only game to play left is TG and their results next week. After that, straight cut and go to blue chips. Hopefully can recover all the losses by then.

Currently futures just back in green..... hopefully stays there and KLSE starts recovery.
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blue chip recovery wont be like gloves, u have to stay in blue chips for years to recover all our losses from gloves
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post Sep 9 2020, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Sep 9 2020, 12:55 PM)
currently at -19% total portfolio.

super painful.
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Its ok man, the best lessons are learnt through pain.
Now that you have experienced this bubble, you will most likely not fall for the other one, as all bubbles look similar.
Next time when you know people are defending their counters and the charts look unaesthetically bearish, you know that we are in a denial mode.

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