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andrekua2
post Jan 5 2021, 01:45 AM

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These few weeks before chinese new year will be interesting for many stocks.
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post Jan 5 2021, 05:41 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 4 2021, 10:39 PM)
For supermax holders, tmr will be the dividend credit day. Make sure its credited, else can look for your remisier.
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Did TopGlove give any dividend in December 2020 (last month)?

Did I miss anything?
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post Jan 5 2021, 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 5 2021, 01:45 AM)
These few weeks before chinese new year will be interesting for many stocks.
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Interesting for goreng?

Casino de Bursa again?
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post Jan 5 2021, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Jan 4 2021, 10:48 PM)
Certainly the big boys. Its either purposeful dump to collect at cheap price or desperate dump because they know something not good going to happen.
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yes the big boys are collecting the stock now, price plunge but buying power far outweigh selling pressure.

green = buy
red = sell

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post Jan 5 2021, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(Daenerys1985 @ Jan 4 2021, 11:47 AM)
What will glove lovers such as AVFAN do today:
1 Stay quiet and act like nothing happened
2 Blame it on short selling
3 Mention they made severe losses and finally cut loss
4 Average down again
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The day has passed and the results are in. Some of the glove lovers were realistic and saw things were pretty bad.
Short selling was discussed a lot as expected.
Nobody went for option 3, as it is typically not done to admit somebody is wrong.
Nobody also had guts enough to average down again, as far as I saw.

I was hoping our most frequent poster (2542 posts in this thread alone) AVFAN would come up with some introspection, but it was not to be. He acted like nothing happened. He is so good that when he buys a stock and if it goes up, he makes money.

And if it goes down he also makes money. He decided to casually mention (after the trade was completed of course) that he made money intraday on Supermax. I guess he’ll have heavy losses overall, but I suppose he doesn’t care much as long as his post count goes up.

It’s a good thing that there is a blocking function as I don’t need any information from somebody like him.

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post Jan 5 2021, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Daenerys1985 @ Jan 5 2021, 08:18 AM)
The day has passed and the results are in. Some of the glove lovers were realistic and saw things were pretty bad.
Short selling was discussed a lot as expected.
Nobody went for option 3, as it is typically not done to admit somebody is wrong.
Nobody also had guts enough to average down again, as far as I saw.

I was hoping our most frequent poster (2542 posts in this thread alone) AVFAN would come up with some introspection, but it was not to be. He acted like nothing happened. He is so good that when he buys a stock and if it goes up, he makes money.

And if it goes down he also makes money. He decided to casually mention (after the trade was completed of course) that he made money intraday on Supermax. I guess he’ll have heavy losses overall, but I suppose he doesn’t care much as long as his post count goes up.

It’s a good thing that there is a blocking function as I don’t need any information from somebody like him.
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Well another option is they can continue to hold and wait for the eventual turn around (if there is one)

But yeah all those bullish thesis plus down day also mentioned they make money is leading people to holland.



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post Jan 5 2021, 09:03 AM

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Making money is public.
Losing money is private.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:06 AM

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Vix Up + RSS + ISinar + PN going out bersatu

Trade carefully
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:09 AM

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Yesterday foreign selling >Rm800, quite a high number as compared to normal.

While, yesterday big volume is at gloves stocks, don't know whether it is related or not.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 4 2021, 09:39 PM)
Yes, in next 10 years.

Many MNC relocate from China to Vietnam and Thailand.
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hopefully some of the big cronies can move on to another realm in 1-2 years time then our political scene will be more stable.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:11 AM

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red red red day
statikinetic
post Jan 5 2021, 09:11 AM

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General sentiment still in the red.
Gloves recovering from yesterday in green for now. Volume is there.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:14 AM

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Glove lovers, all in now!!!
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TOYOVEN, another limit up.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(ry8128 @ Jan 4 2021, 10:39 PM)
For supermax holders, tmr will be the dividend credit day. Make sure its credited, else can look for your remisier.
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u got yours yet? i haven't.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Daenerys1985 @ Jan 5 2021, 08:18 AM)
The day has passed and the results are in. Some of the glove lovers were realistic and saw things were pretty bad.
Short selling was discussed a lot as expected.
Nobody went for option 3, as it is typically not done to admit somebody is wrong.
Nobody also had guts enough to average down again, as far as I saw.

I was hoping our most frequent poster (2542 posts in this thread alone) AVFAN would come up with some introspection, but it was not to be. He acted like nothing happened. He is so good that when he buys a stock and if it goes up, he makes money.

And if it goes down he also makes money. He decided to casually mention (after the trade was completed of course) that he made money intraday on Supermax. I guess he’ll have heavy losses overall, but I suppose he doesn’t care much as long as his post count goes up.

It’s a good thing that there is a blocking function as I don’t need any information from somebody like him.
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why the hate? just swipe left


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post Jan 5 2021, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 5 2021, 09:27 AM)
u got yours yet? i haven't.
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Not yet too. Maybe need to wait until 5pm I guess.
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jan 4 2021, 07:06 PM)
Thanks smile.gif
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Indeed, humans are very random...or else by now everything is predictable by algorithms.
Today I've learnt more on market leaders and their impacts...and the laggards.
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You can discover a lot by running own simulations and back testing.

For example, I threw the idea at you that market leaders lead right and from that, I suggested that it's probably best to just focus on the leader (and yeah, I am against buying more than 1 in a sector). So wat you can do is test what I am saying right there.

Well, assuming yesterday, that was it for the glove sectors... assume la.... so we have an established performance. Now once you have this set of data, say the next pandemic comes, gloves pops right up, and in glove sectors, which stock would you choose?

Okay we saw briefly what Superman vs Kossan looks like. How about Superman vs Harta.

the most recent 50 days... when the stocks in the sector were all correcting...

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The shadow dancing movement...... there.

What does this say? When in correction.. doesn't matter who is the market leader who isn't , both corrected.

Agree? But to be more precise, Superman is down 39% and Harta is down 41%.

Now the overall picture...

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The right side shows it all. Superman is up 549%. Harta only 59%.

how?

Clearly, without any shadow of a doubt, the market leader is the better pick hands down.


Okay... now comes the next pandemic .... if you can only fire ONE and only ONE bazooka at the glove stocks, which one would you aim for?





okay? I just ran a simple back test comparing 2 stocks in a sector. And this back test helps me form a better idea on what to do the next time.

In the market, esp forums, social media, messages etc etc ... you will hear plenty of ideas, insinuations. Some are simply bullshit. Some are sincere but it's based on assumptions.... so before you trust anything you read .... run some back tests.... never trust any 1..... me included. laugh.gif

it's like share buy backs from TopGlove. Early insinuation was buyback is good etc etc and it will help form a support for the stock. Well, we saw how badly screwed up the buybacks were executed , and look at the stock price now compared to the buyback prices.

yea... run back tests.

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post Jan 5 2021, 09:36 AM

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many klci component stocks are dropping.. something is coming
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post Jan 5 2021, 09:42 AM

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rejoin topglove bandwagon.

where is glove warriors? seem quiet here hmm..

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