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post Jan 4 2021, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Jan 4 2021, 04:26 PM)
Thanks for however much that you're sharing here, always get to learn from you.

A question I have for all...looking at the buying activities for the 2nd, 3rd liners, just a curious question as to why are there many people queuing to buy and buy, when big boys are trending down and down...wouldn't it be super risky, more even more so risky to follow these stocks rather than buy the Big4s if they want to put their money in gloves? Is there a simple logic, or there's just none?
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This is because of mentality and that we are all also different...

which on one hand describes why the market is complex ...

See, firstly, market leaders, they are called leaders because of a valid reason, they lead. In the sector, it's TopGlove and Superman,

When Superman and TG was hitting the highs in June/July.... laggards like Kossan... it did nothing. Which is normal. Cos it's a laggard. Lagging.

Which brings out the fact that there exists a bunch of players 'who wants in but are afraid of chasing' ... yup, they saw Superman up many folds... and then they look at Kossan... (can see from below)

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Oooo... I will buy this one. Why? Reason? Belum jalan kereta. laugh.gif

seriously... so they buy ....

Yes, they do make money.... but if you analyze the bigger picture... the money they made, is actually much less had they made the correct decision to jump into Superman early on.

Yea... this is the theory ..... no matter what I say now... it doesn't matter cause others have their own way to play the market. I can't change that. It is what it is.

and just like now... no matter what... players are already hooked into the gloves game already. They will play the lower lines cause this is what they are comfortable with.

different ppl walking randomly in the market....


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post Jan 4 2021, 05:05 PM

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TG 5.50 as expected.

Once it rebound back to 6.xx range, all eyes shall see whether 3.50 magic really effective.

Today is a happy shopping day for me although internet is so bad at hometown. laugh.gif

Fighting with the big boys to collect. They manage to collect a lot today compare to last Thursday!
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post Jan 4 2021, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Jan 4 2021, 05:05 PM)
TG 5.50 as expected.

Once it rebound back to 6.xx range, all eyes shall see whether 3.50 magic really effective.

Today is a happy shopping day for me although internet is so bad at hometown.  laugh.gif

Fighting with the big boys to collect. They manage to collect a lot today compare to last Thursday!
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post Jan 4 2021, 05:10 PM

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I wonder after today's gloves bloodbath, those glove wannabes dare to venture into glove manufacturing anymore? Most of the time when they make the announcements, it may be just to hype up their share prices. Since sentiment is so poor, my guess is this venture is now facing an early death at the drawing board.
Surprisingly vaccine stocks didn't go up, even with EPF buying millions of Dpharma

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post Jan 4 2021, 05:10 PM

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Added a bit into Harta. Will monitor Supermx and TG tomorrow if will drops further biggrin.gif

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post Jan 4 2021, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(skty @ Jan 4 2021, 05:05 PM)
TG 5.50 as expected.

Once it rebound back to 6.xx range, all eyes shall see whether 3.50 magic really effective.

Today is a happy shopping day for me although internet is so bad at hometown.  laugh.gif

Fighting with the big boys to collect. They manage to collect a lot today compare to last Thursday!
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After tansri rolled out dividend big gun, still has what arsenal in reserve to repel another round of rss?

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post Jan 4 2021, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(nauticat99 @ Jan 4 2021, 05:10 PM)
I wonder after today's gloves bloodbath, those glove wannabes dare to venture into glove manufacturing anymore? Most of the time when they make the announcements, it may be just to hype up their share prices. Since sentiment is so poor, my guess is this venture is now facing an early death at the drawing board.
Surprisingly vaccine stocks didn't go up, even with EPF buying millions of Dpharma
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Money already made from share price rise; profit from glove production is secondary. beside, gloves share price dropped doesn't mean asp has dropped.


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post Jan 4 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Jan 4 2021, 04:39 PM)
Wow JFTECH new high
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Very nice, the PE keep flirting with fire. But no risk no gain tongue.gif

Those so called "super low PE" fundamental counter like glove also drop 10% in a day, might as well play the higher risk/reward ratio counter haha.
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post Jan 4 2021, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 4 2021, 05:16 PM)
Very nice, the PE keep flirting with fire. But no risk no gain  tongue.gif

Those so called "super low PE" fundamental counter like glove also drop 10% in a day, might as well play the higher risk/reward ratio counter haha.
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The big boys waiting the tech to turn bearish before shorting, now trend indecisive yet.
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post Jan 4 2021, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jan 4 2021, 05:19 PM)
The big boys waiting the tech to turn bearish before shorting, now trend indecisive yet.
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Tech still need to see bigtech.

If bigtech like Tesla, Zoom, shopify don't die, it's very hard to fight retailer greed.

There is the risk they try to short and might fail and get squeeze out.
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post Jan 4 2021, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 4 2021, 05:23 PM)
Tech still need to see bigtech.

If bigtech like Tesla, Zoom, shopify don't die, it's very hard to fight retailer greed.

There is the risk they try to short and might fail and get squeeze out.
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A reason why gloves sector was vulnerable is many retailers divested into other sectors. similar could happen to tech.

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post Jan 4 2021, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jan 4 2021, 05:23 PM)
Tech still need to see bigtech.

If bigtech like Tesla, Zoom, shopify don't die, it's very hard to fight retailer greed.

There is the risk they try to short and might fail and get squeeze out.
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Although I dont see much correlation between US bigtech with malaysia tech, I agree with you. When the PE 100x counters drop, might drop big like gloves too. 100% down from peak is not unlikely.

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post Jan 4 2021, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jan 4 2021, 05:34 PM)
Although I dont see much correlation between US bigtech with malaysia tech, I agree with you. But when the PE 100x counters drop, might drop big like gloves too. 100% down from peak is not unlikely.
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If syndicate could pushed up price, could similarly push down.

guess the next popular game plan is rss in rotation play. And they call this second harvesting.

Please take this as white noise or broken clock and no more.

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post Jan 4 2021, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 4 2021, 05:37 PM)
If syndicate could pushed up price, could similarly push down in rotation play.

guess the next popular game plan is rss in rotation play.

Please take this as white noise or broken clock and no more.
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Auntie, please give me more obvious tips.
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post Jan 4 2021, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jan 4 2021, 05:42 PM)
Auntie, please give me more obvious tips.
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Fortune tellers do not give obvious tips. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jan 4 2021, 05:42 PM)
Auntie, please give me more obvious tips.
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If you have access to RSS, could join them in second harvesting.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 4 2021, 05:52 PM)
If you have access to RSS, could join them in second harvesting.
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Noted with thanks rclxm9.gif

I can only short index console.gif, but should be good enough
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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Jan 4 2021, 05:42 PM)
Auntie, please give me more obvious tips.
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Jan 4 2021, 05:46 PM)
Fortune tellers do not give obvious tips. biggrin.gif
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Walk randomly to understand the sentiments
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post Jan 4 2021, 05:58 PM

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Another exciting day for the stock market at closing.

Let's see how Mr. Market will behave tomorrow morning. I will either swim in money or drown my sorrow tomorrow.

I have always said "live a life of no regrets". Just do the best we can. Even if we fail doesn't matter. Just give it our best shot.

Looking back at my life journey, if I had listened to all the soothsayers about what I can or cannot do in life, I would be selling char kuey teow now.

P/S: I have nothing against chay kuey teow sellers. They make an honest living and some of the famous ones earn a handsome profit every month. It is just a figure of speech. biggrin.gif

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