QUOTE(zstan @ Apr 22 2020, 09:11 AM)
The fact that you are posting this message mean it’s not time to buy yet. HahahaSTOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V150
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Apr 22 2020, 12:52 PM
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Apr 22 2020, 06:07 PM
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Apr 28 2020, 05:01 PM
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Apr 28 2020, 05:33 PM
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Apr 28 2020, 09:14 PM
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May 8 2020, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ May 8 2020, 02:39 PM) nothing new. |
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May 19 2020, 01:47 PM
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May 30 2020, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 30 2020, 07:48 PM) The Malaysian economy is about to feel the full brunt of the coronavirus pandemic. "recession" is an optimistic word in current situation.After posting its slowest growth since the global financial crisis, the economy is set to slip into a recession in the next four to six months, the country’s top statistician said. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...s?sref=bZ8VXc8U |
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Jun 3 2020, 10:46 AM
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Jun 7 2020, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(jvcpcv55 @ Jun 7 2020, 08:19 AM) JUST sharing not agree with "Good company at crazy valuation is bad investment. Shit company with extremely low valuation can sometimes be a wonderful investment". to see that people treat stock market like a casino. If you don’t have enough cash, do not bother with investments. Investments are for those cash rich people who made enough on daily basis. You need to improve on whatever you do best to raise cash before you come to the stock market. Tips 1. Always choose good company with good fundamental. 2. Do your valuations 3. Do your projections of sales, profit, PE, EPS, Price to book ratio, gearing, sustainable PE projection. 4. Do your due diligence. Research. As you research you will automatically top up more money for every good point that you found in the company. This is how you earn money. 5. Don’t overpay. 6. Think about your entry plan and exit plan. 7. Kenanga, RHB and Maybank research buy time means sell time. If research downgrade, how are they able to unload their stock. 8. Smart market is smart and fool games. Smart earn money from fool. 9. Use your instinct. 10. Weigh your risk. 11. Your entry price matter. Your exit price matter. 12. Good company at crazy valuation is bad investment. Shit company with extremely low valuation can sometimes be a wonderful investment 13. The price of your mistake is always bigger than your win. 14. Play with money that don’t stir your emotions 15. Reduce your buy and sell frequency, then, you will reduce your mistake. I know a fund manager that does less than 10 buy and sell in a year and managed a fund of tens of millions. 16. Never panic buy after a significant price increase and never panic sell after a significant price drop. 17. Do not monitor your stock everyday. Trust your own research and valuation. 18. Don’t trust anyone. Trust your own calculation. 19. Only long term investments can prevent black swan events. 20. Diversify your portfolio. The golden rule of thumb is 5 company in a portfolio. 21. Having a stock which has high PE which has potential to grow is sometimes better investment than company with a low PE that is stagnant for years. There is a reason why the market decide to give a low PE to a company. 22. Always be one step ahead all the time. 23. I would recommend stock market to those who have passion for knowledge. Passion is needed for anyone to truly enjoy what they are doing. 24. Buy what company you can understand. For newbie —————— For newbie, if you lose money to the stock market after one month, you need to quit stock market. Don’t pay tuition fee to stock market. Stock market is extremely dangerous to newbie. Only people who never gamble on stock market will truly make money in stock market. Knowledge is power. Read everyday for 7-8 hours. Good materials are Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham and Art of war by Sun Tzu. I would recommend 5 companies for newbie to invest long term (period of at least 3-10 years). You should make about 20% of your investment. There is no quick money in stock market. Harta, Cahyamata, Inari, Dutch lady and Scientex. You can dollar average your money into these 5 company: set aside money over a set period. Eg. 100k to invest 10 times, invest 10k once a month. You can invest more into any of the company which is cheaper on that day. If you can set aside 10% of your salary to invest in these company every month, your return should be 20% of your investment. This method you can average your price to include volatility in the stock. Using this method, you do not need a fund manager and you do not need retirement fund to retire. This method is the most passive investment you make. my principle is "become partner of a good company at fair price is better than become partner of an average company at cheap price". Anyway, that is my point of view. yes knowledge is power. But there is the another YOU in you that you need to be able to control well is equally important. I hope the people in this forum will one day wake up and realize that trying to time the market is the exact same thing as gamble. Preface : don't easily believe in anything that I said. Whatever shared are from the experience of one life, principle is simple, but the process to carry out is different from person to person because it's subject to your own understanding, your own ability, your own behavior, your own temper, etc. Whatever shared is not a principle that is ALWAYS true, that principle is applicable to that particular person at that point of time. Therefore, treat it as reference, don't easily believe in anything that I said. QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jun 7 2020, 10:42 AM) in my opinion 5 companies in your portfolio needs to be diverse in business area. currently i’m quite heavy on finance which i think i should branch out but so far only good valuation i find in finance company. the correct diversification is try to find others investment that have low correlation between each other that has equal opportunity to get the same ROI.my five in portfolio is maybank and pbbank. This post has been edited by skty: Jun 7 2020, 09:01 PM |
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Jun 7 2020, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jun 7 2020, 09:09 PM) ya agree but best value roi can find currently is bank. will u willing to accept a lower roi stock for sake of diversification? there is no such thing as the best ROI. Bank industry certainly isn't. In fact, I think bank will lose it's supremacy status in coming years/decades as the only legal way to get credit from.it all depends on your circle of understanding and competency to find another equal opportunity of ROI investment. if you can't find, why need to accept lower ROI for sake of diversification in that category? now, some will tell you, diversify in Gold/Silver, Bonds, FD, whatever. That is a whole different way of diversification which your main objective is not ROI already. This post has been edited by skty: Jun 7 2020, 09:49 PM |
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Jun 9 2020, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(abcn1n @ Jun 9 2020, 10:37 AM) Genting shot up today already. Tried to buy some but Rakuten keep saying cannot place order now. Don't dare to buy any now because Rakuten has ever said cannot place order and there is no outstanding order in the order tab but then the next day I find that the order is executed. Scary! and you don't sniff something fishy about those action by banks that prevent you entering a stock on the certain time? This last few weeks, quite a few platforms got problems--Rakuten, Maybank and some others too. |
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Jun 9 2020, 09:10 PM
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Jun 11 2020, 05:01 PM
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looks like tonight will have many "gurus" will go on facebook do live show and tell story about gloves stock.
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Jun 11 2020, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 11 2020, 05:11 PM) hahahahahaha.i see many people still don't learn from their mistakes when they lose money. never reflect. that's really sad because the tuition fee just wasted like that. worst yet after they lose money they turn to those "gurus" for next course of action. haha |
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Jun 11 2020, 08:50 PM
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when M1 significantly reduced in coming Sept, maybe this virtual market will reflect the real market.
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Jun 12 2020, 09:35 AM
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World war 3. Haha
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Jun 12 2020, 09:38 AM
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Jun 12 2020, 03:02 PM
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they are pushing down the stock that has no scale effect. lol
but at least they are recovering some losses there. lol if your stock still in green, it may be an opportunity for you to leave at a higher position while you still can. lol |
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Jun 13 2020, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jun 13 2020, 12:34 PM) “I’m sure Warren Buffett is a great guy but when it comes to stocks he’s washed up,” Portnoy tweeted Tuesday. “I’m the captain now.” hahahaha I laughed. this tweet make my day.https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/...-of-day-traders Which guru is local equivalent? you know, no matter in what field or subject, when someone get cocky and arrogant, he/she is doomed to fail. live to learn. the more you study, the more humble you will be because you will only know one thing, that is you know nothing. datolee32 liked this post
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