ahh.. but this is where u and i will differ.

firstly, i dont think i would have addressed the issue 'why'...ie most of all, i would have asked myself have i made a mistake? and I wouldn't be just be sitting on losses. I have marked it down b4 on my paper trades, years ago. Made provision and included the what IF situation, ie what if I held on to the positions... so I made a remark on those cut losses on those supposedly good stocks and noted what if I held on to those losses.... and you know what, TIME.... yup TIME is the crucial factor. As you know, gains get bigger the longer we hold and surprisingly, losses tend to grow bigger the longer we hold it..... and based on my record, this held true almost 85% of the time... yup, the longer I sat on those losses, the bigger it gets... well, that was my observation...

but the intention of what I said last evening was basically how to avoid trading slumps. Poor choppy markets always is a good recipe for trading slumps... and the such stuff simply does no good to one's trading confidence... it starts to make one re-evaluate one's trading strategies/skills .... and of not handled properly, it could make the trader quit the game...

Just curious, what sort of returns can one expect to get from the local market over a period of 3-5 years?

My portfolio hasn't been going anywhere over the past 3-5 years, that being said it is mainly made up of big blue-chips that are all in the red currently (no surprise given the current state of things). That being said the losses are not very bad, more so after factoring in the dividends received.

However I often do question if it is all worth it. Especially when my unit trust portfolio has grown significantly over the same period (not a fair comparison though, since its mainly invested in foreign markets). That being said I have compared my stock portfolio to some Malaysian Equity funds, and even they have done better than my Malaysian stock portfolio.

I guess, what I'm wondering is how much returns should we expect to get realistically, and if we a underperforming that should we just move our funds to UTs or other such vehicles (maybe not entirely but mostly)?

Do share your thoughts and opinions.

 

nvm.... one day you will get it..... 

That's the thing...
when you gatal, and more so when u sit on handsome past gains, u tend to take on those iffy fifty-fifty bets...
that's when the losses starts...
and then you asking where has ur Mr.Mojo gone....

trading like any sports, is all about confidence..
u need to wait for those big fat juicy pitch....
wait for the one that you know you can bat for the fences....

and not whacking on every ball..just for the sake for whacking...
take this one... lol... i post cos I just saw...



it looks okay for a swing.... higher lows... building up....

but given such conditions... at best it's probably a fifty five only nia......
when markets are bad and choppy...
my past win rate can be really terrible....
only about thirty or slightly more only....
how? let money rot lor .... 

http://m.news.cctv.com/2021/08/17/ARTIckJs...ONQ210817.shtml

The emperor has spoken a portion of tea leaves.

Shared prosperity vision.

Once they reform, those big tech hopefully got more retail investors and open up connect trading with sen zhen exchange.

billy_overheat

just saw it.... five 3 nine now.... 

definitely no five sixty ... . ya... one could have got out about five nineties ... but... ya... err ....     

The case of price ahead of fundamentals. The lockdown doesn't affect this company at all

Was thinking the factory company was closed and has lower revenue due to infection and also lockdown but man i was wrong

DKSH is an oversold and undervalue fundamental stock worth watching.

The production disruption was price in on last week. But then now everyone is looking at Nasdaq and can't resist to take a bite again.

Anyway Daniel Kahneman thinking heuristic and cognitive biasness - WYSIATI. Apply for both bear and bulls.

One good exercise is always to switch our position from a bull to a bear and vice versa regularly, to reduce our cognitive biasness.

fuuuuuuuuhhh ...... big bull rolling... 

@billy .... see? see? see how easily the big bull rolled?
sign clearly was there hor ....

lol... some more got dunno what goodie good index ...LOL!
so are you scanning for more small joes?   

@billy .... see? see? see how easily the big bull rolled?
sign clearly was there hor ....

lol... some more got dunno what goodie good index ...LOL!
so are you scanning for more small joes?   

some more asking for tipsy....       
when i saw it .... i quickly told myself.... this bugger is gonna run... so I posted...

Lately...IQ GROUP.

Hohohoho ....

but ... just remember the 1st rule.... don't lose money.
Yeah... what kind of winning success can we get? Is it consistent enough? etc etc etc ... if one cannot develop a sustainable game plan over such plays, one is definitely gonna get into massive trouble... cos as it is... in such a relatively small pond, one tends to forget who we are exactly, until the big sharks shows up and shows us the meaning of life.... 

.... also... see? u dun really need to play many stocks.... find the one that you like, all you need to do is sit....

For now, no need see to much... the more you see, the smarter you try to be...
see? dun play so many different stocks la... there's no need.
all you need is be very selective...

Those lines.... try this... rid of them.... 
how?
me thinks you are good enough that you don't need it in your charts...
those lines (for a trader like you) tend to make you overthink and outsmart yourself...
if feel uncomfortable, then put it back in...
also... this is why to develop a better edge over others, this is where fundamental reasonings helps 
yup, who say traders cannot think like an investor?

Lately...IQ GROUP.

for me la... i find it meaningful and more comprehendible if I don't just trade based on lines/charts ....

if i just focused on lines... it becomes a timeframe trade ... where basically the time becomes an unpredictable factor as you know lines can always, always be redrawn in many, many ways.... and yup... the trades tends to much shorter... we tend to be 'forced' to make more decisions... and the more decision(s) we make, the more likely we make mistake(s)... and mistake(s) in the bloody market causes one to lose money..... and yea... back to square one.... learn not to lose money.