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Boon3
post Jul 30 2020, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jul 30 2020, 10:50 AM)
Yes. That is my concern also. Biggest shareholder dumping, executive team also disposing.

Also alot of 0.9x ESOS. I wonder is it this quarter result no good ?

Usually the Kenaga guy buy call always got short run up and then lose steam
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Harlo... this one tipsy ah? laugh.gif

Kenanga Scientist very scientific la...
They are projecting HUGE growth rolleyes.gif

current ttm profit =158 million
current 3 qtrs 2020 net profit = 120 million

Kenanga scientist calls for 240 million for fy21. ** they declared they are not expecting a good Q4 number. LOL ***
Which equals an eps of 7.4 sen mah...

But again their calculator rosak or what...
cos a 21.9x Pe multiple = ________ (dunno how they get TP of 2.50. rclxub.gif )



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can see if I am wrong somewhere ah?
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post Jul 30 2020, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 30 2020, 11:09 AM)
Harlo... this one tipsy ah? laugh.gif

Kenanga Scientist very scientific la...
They are projecting HUGE growth  rolleyes.gif

current ttm profit =158 million
current 3 qtrs 2020 net profit = 120 million

Kenanga scientist calls for 240 million for fy21. ** they declared they are not expecting a good Q4 number. LOL ***
Which equals an eps of 7.4 sen mah...

But again their calculator rosak or what...
cos a 21.9x Pe multiple = ________ (dunno how they get TP of 2.50.  rclxub.gif )
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can see if I am wrong somewhere ah?
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Ahhh.... found one mistake... they use a PE of 30x. LOL!

But 30 x 7.4 = ________ rclxub.gif

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post Jul 30 2020, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jul 30 2020, 11:32 AM)
You see even they also know Q4 number is bad. I wonder why they choose this time to do a coverage, but not after the Q4 / FYE 20 number is out.

Anyway well timed. Good for the directors and employees too offload at future prices before retailer got spooked.
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1. That's a big red flag for traders if a bout of disposal by the directors right after a suspicious bullish report from the Scientists...

2. but the lack of quality control is appalling. Doesn't anyone go over these report before they are released? Calling for a 30x PE multiple based on an estimate EPS of 7.4 sen equals to 2.22 and not 2.50. Macam mana the report can be passed?

3. when reports are few pages long (inari is 11 pages)... got plenty if color pictures included .... most of the time, the reports is questionable one.... ie good chance they write so that the stock is goreng...


Ooolalala..... Inari is now up a lot... power to the Scientists!!! and their TPs..... flex.gif

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post Jul 30 2020, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Jul 30 2020, 12:14 PM)
Yeah really up alot. If you talk with traders nowadays, its not about being careful. It's chase first else profit going to slip away.

Even long time traders also affected, as money is raining down everywhere. You don't ready your shovel fast enough, you would miss out.

Funny thing is, directors and insiders mostly are cautious. While outsider and speculators are FOMO-ing
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Making the error in the TP calculation very the malu one la...
and same for the Head of Research who did not catch it....

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post Aug 3 2020, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 3 2020, 10:03 AM)
right now, it is not about the biz of gold jewelry.

it is about gold itself - about all time high now.

these cos. have gold stock.
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can easily back test this idea/theory lo...

the last gold run...
check the dates...

then compare the jewelry stocks earnings... (see pohkong and then zhullian ... poh kong better than tomei.... and zhulian? err... ppl did buy fake gold when the gold ran the last time)
then look at these 2 stock chart performance (see if their stocks got lari onot)



** this is what I did for the glove sector **
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post Aug 3 2020, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 3 2020, 10:08 AM)
from gloves to condoms... anything rubber?! biggrin.gif
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Avoid laa..... that company is koyak...

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post Aug 3 2020, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Kitkat88 @ Aug 3 2020, 10:13 AM)
Once bonus shares are issued, prices will drop. So, should we sell TG first before the bonus shares are issued, or hold until after?
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the price is readjusted lower as per the bonus issue ratio.
that's all.

whether it goes up or down .... there's no co relation to the bonus issue at all .... there's no conclusive data that exist to support at all.


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post Aug 3 2020, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 3 2020, 10:20 AM)

ya, no touch. biggrin.gif
... and somehow... the stock gains since March lows is rather impressive....

some punters.... the more koyak the company...the lagi kuat the goreng... well that's the theory I've heard at the kopitiam b4. laugh.gif
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post Aug 3 2020, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Kitkat88 @ Aug 3 2020, 10:24 AM)
I guess the prices will drop very quickly after the bonus shares are issued, so we need to sell fast (after the bonus shares are issued), right? Any statistics showing how fast will the drop (or correction/readjustment) happen?
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Why and how would the price drop very quickly????
Why you keep saying this?

It's adjusted lower la..
but it's all the same since you have the bonus issue that they will issue to your account

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post Aug 3 2020, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Aug 3 2020, 05:08 PM)
1Q with 800mil profit is very high isn't it.
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Very high itself is such an understatement. smile.gif

May I know who is even suggesting 800million.


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post Aug 3 2020, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Aug 3 2020, 05:56 PM)
No wonder they say the rich get richer during this pandemic.....
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I think lowyat forum doesn't need forummers to come in bragging.

If nothing is done, it will turn this forum into a toxic forum like i3.


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post Aug 3 2020, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(xrossf1re @ Aug 3 2020, 05:53 PM)
Finally decided to sold off all my Top Glove shares. Profit can buy a C200. Thank you very much smile.gif
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Dude.. if you win money, congrats to you but please cut the bragging. We don't need and want it here. Ok?
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post Aug 3 2020, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(kembayang @ Aug 3 2020, 05:08 PM)
1Q with 800mil profit is very high isn't it.
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Share here...

Harta's recent net profit numbers

2019 Q1 124 million 2020 Q1 94 million
2019 Q2 120 million 2020 Q2 103 million
2019 Q3 119 million 2020 Q3 121 million
2019 Q4 113 million 2020 Q4 115 million

FY2019 456 million
FY2020 435 million

1Q profit of 800m..lol..that will put Harta to to be around 40 laugh.gif
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post Aug 4 2020, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 4 2020, 01:31 PM)
The two firms confirmed in the tripartite partnership are Green Ocean Corp Bhd and AT Systematization Bhd, while the third party is believed to be Kossan Rubber Industries Bhd.

These 3 gonna be good.
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You probably shouldn't be so gung ho ....

esp with AT System....

look at the company's announcements...
huge chunks of new shares are listed constantly ....

* u need to find out why and understand why it is a threat to you if you bet on the stock*

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post Aug 4 2020, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 4 2020, 01:39 PM)
I tried buying AT before. Didn't get anyhow (since the queue is damn long).

Maybe can get Green Ocean, just a small amount. Kossan already holding.
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u should still try to understand ** u need to find out why and understand why it is a threat to you if you bet on the stock*


see if you wanna bet... at least u want to bet better, yes?
Can u continue to bet on something just because of news/analysts/sifu/tipsy? (I mean isn't your bet being dictated by other factors?_

anyway GL la...

I ain't good at punting. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 4 2020, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Aug 4 2020, 02:09 PM)
Usually 1-3 days ba? I think not end yet
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When stock pulls back sharply during the intraday ... it indicates a lot of players had taken profit at the earlier high prices...
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post Aug 4 2020, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 4 2020, 02:16 PM)
So you're saying..... afternoon session will slowly recover?
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I no say such thing.
I only said what happened in the morning....



I do have to say that I love your optimism... smile.gif
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post Aug 4 2020, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 4 2020, 02:24 PM)
Seeing what happened to the stock market in last few weeks, optimism is the best thing compared to all doom and gloom. Initially I already lost 5k+, but I took it on the chin and started playing smarter. Now at least I can sell what's in profit and consolidate, while just leave the ones in negative to rise back later.
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post Aug 4 2020, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(HereToLearn @ Aug 4 2020, 02:31 PM)
Tell the people who bought stocks in Dec 2019 or AA stocks, to hold onto their losses and wait for the rise, they will say you are crazy.

All the best smile.gif.
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You sure got a point but in a general stock forum, it is best I try not to give direct advice leh... sweat.gif sweat.gif



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post Aug 4 2020, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 4 2020, 02:41 PM)
harta did rm220 mil profit which is commendable, v good.

not rm500, 800 mil la...

now, let spmx and TG show the way...

spmx rm400mil, TG rm600mil... ok or not?! tongue.gif
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Not okay...

300 and 700 la... tongue.gif


Waaaa only 600m for TopGun? Mau kena rotan kah? Why so little? tongue.gif

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