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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE! V2, SOU 3 - 2 LIV

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post Feb 3 2016, 07:10 PM

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LEI 2 - 0 LIV

Klopp was defender last time, those 2 goals or any goal against LIV gonna personally hurt him twice smile.gif Just look how passionate he celebrate goals lol. Many To Do list for klopp to turn liverpool back to title contender.

I hope the club will give him more time coz i really wanna see it with my eyes smile.gif Yeah Klopp need to tweak a bit his tactics if he wanna use this 12 players for the rest of season...well until some cheap+good player come out from Euro 2016...

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 3 2016, 06:26 PM)
Mig may be at some fault for positioning, but at that time Vardy was still way out from the penalty box, no way GK position at six yard box at that time.
As if Vardy beat Lovren 1 v 1, and Mig position too near the goal, and didn't come out to clear out the ball, then people will blame his positioning again.

Even if Mig positioning was not the best, it is still a wonder strike, you cannot blame GK much for conceding such a goal in this kind of situation.

As said many time, Mig may not world class type of GK like Neuer or Buffon or even Cech, but blame this defeat on GK is unjustified.
What about 2 superb save on first half that keep the scoreline 0-0? If Bogdan or other GK, may already 2-0 by half time already.

The team is not good enough in defence, particularly LB area, and offensive wise, nobody seems able to shoot as well.
How to win matches when you have problem in defending, and unable to score? Even have "spider web" like GK also the team can't win matches.

The current team main problem is not GK.
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Agree it is not the main problem but it is a problem to be addressed (in time)

Mignolet other saves in the game was commendable. It was just timing that led to the first goal where everyone seemed to think it's a wonder goal (esp English media) even vardy thought it wasn't his best goal but more of fortune that mignolet was way off (watch the goal, Mig had to back track upon realizing he was caught out, everyone knows you can't jump that high while retreating backwards - goalkeeper rule)

High ball from the back, there is no way lovren will be able to reach vardy. It was just timing in which vardy had a look and was fortunate to attempt that audacious volley.

I don't blame Mig for the second goal. It ricochet off a LFC defender and onto vardy's path. We were already desperate to find an equalizer and the back was stretched. Played to Leicester game forte. Hit on the break

We lost cause while the chances that came, we were off the mark. We were in the game until the goal. Chasing an equalizer is always hard, more so against a team that loves to break

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 3 2016, 06:38 PM)
not clueless.
just lacking confidence.
plus i think the crossbars at melwood must be at least 3-storeys high...zzz.

LFC had just as many shots, just that LFC and the whole kitchen sink all trying to shoot...like they say too many cooks blah blah.
so klopp really needs to adjust his tactics...instead of trying to get everyone and his mother on the score sheet.
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The team lack someone can shoot like Vardy and Mahrez, similar to Suarez + Sturridge back then.

Those shoot in the stat mostly were harmless in nature, either soft of straight to keeper one.

Even Firmino who scored a couple of goals in those win matches, his shot mostly were "tame" type one, instead fierce and hard type or thunderbolt.

Really miss those Gerrard long range shot or Hamann one, those kind of long range shooting sometimes are needed to break the deadlock, just like Vardy's goal this morning.
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post Feb 3 2016, 09:37 PM

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Shooting long range is speculative, it's even worse if it's crowded or team having assembled back in numbers.

Yes, we could do with player like gerrard or Alonso (long range) accuracy in games like this or the cunningness and trickery of Suarez type of player. We don't have any of those.

I didn't think we would do well against Leicester before the game but that would be unfair for the team. These are stubborn teams that's difficult to break much like how houllier set up up in his early tenure knowingly the set of players weren't accomplished item under him.

There is no one who would bet against Leicester to have a melt down with 14 games or so left. Man city, Arsenal have the best prospects and pedigree to clinch 2 of the 4 spots. I think Leicester city too will join the private club.

We are blowing hot & cold to be consistent enough to clinch the remaining spot. It's a toss be it Spurs, Manu I guess. As much as I hate to think about it.

The small good news is we have players returning from injuries and it will/may take 4-8 games for them to bed into a rhythm playing for Liverpool again.

It's s remote possibility that's slowly being shut out for us. Dark horse we are maybe but only a remote outside chance for Liverpool. Stats base on form will show we likely will miss last spot.



Shit, even Reina can know kick from the corner. Ok it's leads to my point on...
https://www.facebook.com/SSCNapoli/videos/1124890837544489/

3 notable things I feel Mignolet needs to up the ante is one, his ball distribution from safety (when ball in his hands/or feet); two coming out with more confidence (esp timing) esp for corners; and lastly be more vocal and communication with the defense. He needs to lead n organize them. That inspire a stronger understanding with is why the current defensive gaffes are in some part to blame.

Again I said I trust Klopp to address this 'weakness'. How he does it is up to him. But I'm sure it needs to be looked into.

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Spurs are on form and their defence has been really steady this season. I don't think it's a toss. I believe they'll be in the top 4 when season ends. 5th is up for grabs. Just look at how consistently inconsistent the teams from 5th to 10th have been this season
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the thing is, both mignolet and lovren never expected vardy to take a shot. hindsight is 20/20 of course so it's easy to say mignolet positioning way too out or lovren never attempt a challenge bla bla bla

assuming mig stayed on the line and lovren went in for a challenge, but turns out vardy didnt want to shoot and chose to dribble pass the now-floored lovren for a 1-on-1 with mig, what then? is it their fault again?

it's a game of probability. which is more dangerous? a 1-on-1 with vardy? or a long shot from outside the box with lovren watching him?

they're not world class players but i dont fault them for conceding that worldy
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dont diu 1st..

recall back what moreno can do to the team..

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QUOTE(zozzle @ Feb 3 2016, 11:59 PM)
the thing is, both mignolet and lovren never expected vardy to take a shot. hindsight is 20/20 of course so it's easy to say mignolet positioning way too out or lovren never attempt a challenge bla bla bla

assuming mig stayed on the line and lovren went in for a challenge, but turns out vardy didnt want to shoot and chose to dribble pass the now-floored lovren for a 1-on-1 with mig, what then? is it their fault again?

it's a game of probability. which is more dangerous? a 1-on-1 with vardy? or a long shot from outside the box with lovren watching him?

they're not world class players but i dont fault them for conceding that worldy
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Vardy said in his own words, saw mignolet was a moment too far ahead (off his line), took the opportunity to rifle it. I didn't made that up, it was in his own words.

If the ball was on the 'ground', vardy will need to content with lovren with him side by side. Option for lovren, take out vardy, gets it right, Clears the ball; wrongly lovren gets red card. If the hypothesis that with ball on ground, and should vardy sprints a head past lovren, he still needs to do one-to-one with mignolet. That's 2 obstacle vardy needs to clear.

Watch the replay.

Lovren can and able to offer a challenge to vardy if the ball was under control on the ground, if vardy didn't and wasn't tempted to hit that far out. But in every wonder goal long range volley shots, ball is mid air before the strike. It's just mignolet position was a tad prematurely away from the goal.

Like I said long range are usually speculative in nature, with more defensive men, it tough(er) to score.
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post Feb 3 2016, 11:32 PM

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Going by our performance in opponents' final third, no European nights next season.....

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post Feb 3 2016, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(socratesman @ Feb 3 2016, 11:32 PM)
Going by our performance in opponents'  final third, no European nights next season.....
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Win League Cup can get a ticket to Europa yo.
Lost to Citeh but Citeh finished top 4, we still can go to Europa yo
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Suarez scored 4 goals last night
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post Feb 4 2016, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Feb 3 2016, 11:49 PM)
Win League Cup can get a ticket to Europa yo.
Lost to Citeh but Citeh finished top 4, we still can go to Europa yo
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Haha yeah. Forgot about that. I prefer tues/wed nights, but oh well enough with the daydreaming
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Apparently some of the media has started to criticize Klopp for not improving Liverpool. Supposedly stats of win is just lower than of Brendan Rodgers.

Valid or no?

This came after our latest defeat in the hands of Leicester

Some of us might defend and can say it's after all Rodgers' squad he inherited, but the fact of the matter I believe the journalists could be trying to say, Klopp is no improvement over Brendan and it was probably premature to let Brendan go?

I don't know. I still think Klopp approach has the boys being more united.

We spent over 300million on (many) average buys. Some are quick to blame TC. I still say as much as it was a collective effort to identify players in which Rodgers was also IN the committee and he is in agreement on weather of the short list AND that of Rodgers having the final day to purchase or not.

Classic example in benteke's case. Camps are quick to point the blame to TC than Brendan Rodgers. Did you guys know when Brendan invited Klopp over when Klopp arrived as the new LFC manager. Brendan Rodgers ask and requested Klopp to have patiences with (players like) benteke's signing. A player that seemed not in harmony to Liverpool style actually.

Nope, I didn't make this up. Brendan revealed what was transpired with Klopp at his house in an interview just before LFC vs Leicester.

So really. Klopp or Brendan perhaps asked by the journalist.

To me 4 months into his tenure, we are in 1 cup final, even if it was not a major cup it's more of things to come than that had happen in 3 years. No?

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Liverpool Sign Joel Matip on a Pre-Contract Agreement

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Liverpool have sealed their first summer signing with Joel Matip reportedly agreeing terms to join from Schalke, according to reports.

Matip was a target for the Reds during the January transfer window but despite the club apparently making an offer, he stayed put.

However, he’s a free agent in the summer and after deciding against penning a new deal, he’s now signed for Liverpool on a Bosman.

According to Corriere dello Sport, the deal is all done and dusted and the player has turned down interest from other clubs to move to Anfield.


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QUOTE(tiSSue_paPer @ Feb 3 2016, 11:05 PM)


dont diu 1st..

recall back what moreno can do to the team..
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I can't believe so many goals from so many different players brought us to the final.

Sturridge, Ings, and Origi need to come back asap! Benteke can go fly kite after all 3 is back.
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QUOTE(tampinmy @ Feb 4 2016, 09:27 AM)
Liverpool Sign Joel Matip on a Pre-Contract Agreement
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liverpool doesnt seem to enjoy getting good players from bosman. hopefully klopp can change that
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Feb 4 2016, 09:44 AM)
liverpool doesnt seem to enjoy getting good players from bosman. hopefully klopp can change that
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This guy wanna move, he make his case clear long time ago. Shalke offers very gooding mega deal to ask him stay but he doesn't want.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Feb 3 2016, 11:49 PM)
Win League Cup can get a ticket to Europa yo.
Lost to Citeh but Citeh finished top 4, we still can go to Europa yo
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that rule stopped existing already la...runners up in domestic cups now get nothing.
that place now goes to the highest league team that didnt qualify for europe...so 5th or 6th or 7th etc.

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Feel weird when signing klopp signing matip because relation between Dortmund and Schalke is like liverpool and everton (aka derby rival)
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Joel Matip who? hmm.gif

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