QUOTE(WickyWeeky @ Jan 27 2016, 08:46 AM)
Only 3 defenders there. Where is the LB?
4 v 3
Goal conceded again from left side, never mind the offside first.
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English Clubs Liverpool LYN Kop Talk - BELIEVE! V2, SOU 3 - 2 LIV
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 27 2016, 12:43 PM) If he bang in a few more goals for the rest of season, he may be the "steal of the season" at £4 mil price tag. How come a striker that almost every season got double digit goals record (even with QPR in EPL), was priced at £4 mil? Soton seems like very good in doing business, sell Shaw, Lovren, Lallana took in more than £70 mil, now buy a double digit goals striker at £4mil? I think Liv's priority in transfer market is to "buy" football director" of Soton. |
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 27 2016, 04:26 PM) Austin is injury prone for the record. So, the price 4m for someone who is leaving on free at the end of season is understandably reasonable. I guess cannot as prone as current player of Liv has.... From the stat, he has 4 straight season under his belt that played more than 30+ games. |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 28 2016, 09:12 AM) No thanks to our early season injuries which some are still on. If win the league cup next month, already can qualify for Europa league.IMO for this season, Klopp is not going to fire fight and use a major part of his budget in this Jan window. This season is for him to feel the league and gauge the players left by BR. That the reason he is playing the juniors in the cup games. My guess is anything higher than 6 is a bonus. Europa league qualification is the goal for next season. |
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 28 2016, 07:33 AM) Interesting some say why not Austin? Austin is more about short and temporarily solution suggested, especially the fixture is so congested, almost 3/4 day you see the team plays again one.We already have a similar striker in Ings. We need one which fits the system we are going to play. That probably rules out Benteke. Not saying Tex is going to replace Benteke, but Lalana is also at risk as Tex plays in his position and much faster and a goal scorer which Lalana lacks in both aspects. At this rate if Tex comes in, we are going to see Firminho keepin his place at the top with Sturridge out for the foreseeable future. I don't think Tex is coming. At £38 mil price tag, it may be too much risk to take. I would rather to see the club save the money for the summer transfer window. |
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Jan 31 2016, 09:13 PM) Brannagan, teixera, smith should be kept at the club... They look more promising than those multi million 'potential' players that BR has signed in those 3 years Barnaggan corner was poor, can't even beyond the near post first defender.But Enrique one was even worst... The team lack someone who is good in delivering set piece, corner. I cannot remember Liv scored goal from corner kick for long time already. |
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Feb 3 2016, 08:22 AM
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Time and time again, I said goal conceded from the left side, and this morning, 2 goals conceded from left side again.
Moreno plenty of time out of position. Offence only got pace, no clue on passing, shooting skill also poor. The Vardy's first goal was world class volley, no GK can save it. Second goal, courtesy of Sakho's poor 101 basic defending, never let the ball bounce and poor defending by Moreno. Mig had 2 superb save on first half, if not easily loss 4-0. Liv's verdict, nobody has a shooting boot, and nobody can shoot or cross. Only pass pass pass. |
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Feb 3 2016, 04:02 PM) http://www.90min.com/posts/2923998-vardy-s...ine?a_aid=36569 Mig may be at some fault for positioning, but at that time Vardy was still way out from the penalty box, no way GK position at six yard box at that time.Maybe mignolet is good enough for his previous team, in the likes of a fallen giant who aspire to go back to the top, I'm not sure mignolet should be the one behind the post. It's harsh sentiment I know. Positioning for goal keeper separates the great one from the good ones. As if Vardy beat Lovren 1 v 1, and Mig position too near the goal, and didn't come out to clear out the ball, then people will blame his positioning again. Even if Mig positioning was not the best, it is still a wonder strike, you cannot blame GK much for conceding such a goal in this kind of situation. As said many time, Mig may not world class type of GK like Neuer or Buffon or even Cech, but blame this defeat on GK is unjustified. What about 2 superb save on first half that keep the scoreline 0-0? If Bogdan or other GK, may already 2-0 by half time already. The team is not good enough in defence, particularly LB area, and offensive wise, nobody seems able to shoot as well. How to win matches when you have problem in defending, and unable to score? Even have "spider web" like GK also the team can't win matches. The current team main problem is not GK. |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 3 2016, 06:38 PM) not clueless. The team lack someone can shoot like Vardy and Mahrez, similar to Suarez + Sturridge back then.just lacking confidence. plus i think the crossbars at melwood must be at least 3-storeys high...zzz. LFC had just as many shots, just that LFC and the whole kitchen sink all trying to shoot...like they say too many cooks blah blah. so klopp really needs to adjust his tactics...instead of trying to get everyone and his mother on the score sheet. Those shoot in the stat mostly were harmless in nature, either soft of straight to keeper one. Even Firmino who scored a couple of goals in those win matches, his shot mostly were "tame" type one, instead fierce and hard type or thunderbolt. Really miss those Gerrard long range shot or Hamann one, those kind of long range shooting sometimes are needed to break the deadlock, just like Vardy's goal this morning. |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 4 2016, 10:56 AM) Contract extension may enable the club to sell at a much better transfer fee, instead letting go the players on free. Also, he may be a good No.2 if there is a better GK available in the coming transfer window. Bogdan as No.2 didn't sound convincing considered that his latest appearance was quite shaky. At least Mig is a good stopper just like performance during 1st half against Leicester and penalty save during shootout against Stoke. |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 4 2016, 03:23 PM) that may be true if mignolet was somewhere near his final season of contract, but his contract was until mid-2018 before extension. 2018 is just 2 years from now, which is quite norm for club to offer extension at this time, if wish to retain the player or see some value from the player in the transfer market.Frankly speaking, there is no many top GK available or average GK that is steady and not "shaky" one. Butland? won't come cheap, may not want to come as well. Hart? Not possible joining Liv. So why not offer Mig contract extension first, as there are other area which are more important to sort out, aka striker and defender department. I see the logic in term of contract extension. 1. If Mig going to Bosman, Liv needs to buy 2 GK at least in the coming season. 2. Offer Mig, and if there is better GK available, he can be No.2 3. Save the transfer fee for other department (instead spent 10~20 mil on GK), as GK is not sole and main reason that causing team cannot win matches. |
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Previous Liv's target Texeira goes to China league?
Really cannot brain that. |
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QUOTE(tetikusmouse @ Feb 5 2016, 03:23 PM) I have a more simple view,midtable manager bought midtable players, assembled a midtable team, that ended up at midtable... It is not necessary to buy proven or top players in EPL to be success in EPL, as some good managers can unearth some gems, just like how Houllier brought in Hyypia, Rafa brought in Alonso, Mascherano, It is about eagle eye of manager. |
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QUOTE(champlaos11 @ Feb 5 2016, 05:07 PM) For every Hyypia, there will be a El Hadji Diouf. For every Alonso, Mascherano, there will be a Jan Kromkamp/Josemi. At least the team had Hyypia, Alonso, Mascherano before that winning some trophy before.I am not undermining Houllier or Rafa. But the fact is there will be a certain risk with every single signing. The risk will be lower if the manager has an eagle eye and have a solid scouting team. And I will always prefer us going for foreign talent with minimal fee rather than overrated and overpriced Brits. But midtable manager signed none as above players, and won no trophy, even with transfer money of nearly 200 mil over 3-4 season. |
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Feb 7 2016, 01:03 AM) 1st goal, keeper fault...wtf he commanded the wall far too right..,bodoh ke bengong? 1st goal - stupid freekick conceded by LB.2nd goal, sakho fault,,,how many average striker able to round him and score the goal,., always have brain freeze every 10min The wall was not a problem, GK is, from the replay, it looks like should be a routine save, but his reaction diving to the left was pretty slow, and seems not loose focus in between. Totally GK fault. Sakho should learned Defoe is right footed, so as defender, one should be shielding his right side, this is basic 101 defending. Let him takes on his weaker side, seldom players scored with their weaker foot one. Sunderland had 2 shot on target, and scored 2 goals, very familiar stat from previous few matches, seems Liv played without GK. The players seems loose concentration after fans leaving. The team needs major overhaul over the summer, apart from Firmino and possible Clyne, all position need may need face, including the captain, and GK. And top priority is LB. |
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Conspiracy theory?
1. Fans planned 77 min walkout. 2. Klopp coincidently had appendicitis and missing from the touchline. 3. Players loose concentration and throw away 2-0 lead, letting in 2 goals with 2 shot on target for the entire match. |
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Ticket price raised won't take in very large revenue, but a more prudent is spending and better wages negotiation with players will.
Vardy just today reported to sign contract extension that earns him £80K per week, which is way less than many Liv players that sitting on the bench, who may most of time fail to deliver some good performance, or fit enough aka injury prone. |
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Feb 8 2016, 07:10 AM) When LFC nominated Henderson as its captain, I, saw how much the famous Liverpool that evoked so much passion and stirred the imagination of football for over several decades had fallen. The ticket price issue may another "tripping' in making. Henderson is a good squad member, but just look at the illustrious captains of LFC in recent times with gerrard, souness, hypia, hansen, rednapp, ince, fowler, barnes... To name a couple Ok maybe LFC in our current "transition" paints a little less favourbly for Henderson. But with such current squad architected by our ex manager doesn't quite breathe much optimism that we are anywhere closer to the liverpool of the yesteryears. Poor Henderson. Quite damning to be in such period of mediocre. I do wish it was just a bad bad dream but it's as light as day that Klopp has a huge big fuking task to turnaround a sleeping giant. We have tripped on themselves so many times it's a not funny anymore. The bright spark is that we have a good manager in Klopp. It will take time, perhaps even more that the 3years that he has been assigned for What is worst for the club right now is losing focus to another admin issue, instead of footballing. |
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 9 2016, 10:44 AM) JAMIE CARRAGHER: 'Why I walked out of Anfield'... Kop legend hits out at top-flight clubs who fleece fans amid £77 ticket row The raised ticket price will generate extra £2 mil pa? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...make-stand.html If it is true, then it is PR disaster by the club management. What the extra £2 mil can do for the club? As I said before, a better skill of negotiation in transfer fee and players wages, can save way much more then £2 mil. £2 mil vs £200 mil that has been spent over the 3 season+, that yield little, the club needs better management and PR with the fans. |
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 10 2016, 09:35 AM) thing with benteke is he isnt really a prolific goalscorer. Blame the one who splashed £32 mil...there was only one season back in 2012 where he came close to 20 goals. every other season he avgs about 1 goal every 2.5 games...kinda like what hes doing now in LFC. so hes actually performing like hes always done...just TC probably got blinded by all the youtube highlights of his and thought he was worth 30m+. At AV, He was playing with crosses and high ball being fed to him, not running like Suarez and dribbling pass defenders. Another carbon copy of Carroll similar situation. With the critics surrounding him, it makes worst to a player confidence. No confidence, even open goal also can't score one... (just like one previously that opponent GK was up to the field for a corner) |
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