Oppss...sorry, definitely not long term...what I can say, in the duration of my drving experience limited 10 months, I notice the income I got get decrease with the same number of hours I put in....i.e. I need to drive longer hours to gain back the same amount of income I got previously when I just started, up to the point that I feel it not worth the time and effort for it, that's why I stop.

Well said, the rider think driver time not important, not valuable, only rider time important and valuable? Respect is earned both way. Padan muka simply request and then got cancelled. In fact, I even write before to Uber said it should be shorten to 2 min, after all, the rider view if any driver nearby before request, have ETA when driver is arriving, so, plenty of time for them to plan (although I got to admit Uber estimate always out one , straight line basis, rather follow route and traffic).

That's why I make it my habit everytime I request for ride, I make sure I am ready at the location only press request. And, I fully understand many Uber driver are part-timers, even full time, they are not professional driver, they just drive Uber to make some extra earning (earning wise, different topic ) , therefore, be respectful and treat others like how you want to be treated.

You sure no campers at airport? Impossible lah

what to do, it is rider who pay the commission fee to Grab/ Uber, not driver. Suck it up bro

It matters of time before Uber will remove the cancellation fee just like they removed the waiting time into the fare

Shall see, if it is true, then, it good news for drivers....but, don't forget Uber is operating in duo-poly in Malaysia, and riders nowadays are price sensitive and they is very little differentiation between both Grab and Uber service (used to be only they want a reliable ride, which win hands down against taxi), so, any unilateral fare adjustment, the riders will shift to Grab (and Grab is going strong by days).

Currently, everytime I open both apps, both fare is farely comparable, differences also less than RM0.50.

wrong, uber have quest

Chilled lah....raya holiday mar....bank where got open?

yes, yes....but I dunnolol

normal lah.... last time they suspended me because my insurance expired (just that I lazy to upload latest insurance policy), they still keep sending sms to me on the weekly incentive boast, ask me go online. Then, when I finally upload my insurance policy, they continue to suspend me, ask me to to their office to sort it out (don't want to tell me what's the issue even I repeated multiple times), I got pissed off, told them off, said I will stopped driving permanently, only then they stopped and claim they deleted my profile in their database.

Which I found it bullshit, coz I still see details of my drivers profile (i.e. photo) in my Uber drivers apps. Seriously, I start to doubt my security of my personal details kept by Uber, it's borderline of invasion of privacy.

Dunno lah, I stop long time ago oledi (although I still keep lurking here ) and everything I do, above board one, no scared one

Maybe no. If you deleted or even hard re-set your phone completely, you will still unsure if they can still able to track you. If not mistaken, when you register for driver, install the apps, they even take note of your phone Imei number.

And, even if they can't know your location, all your personal data that you previously consented to them, like your IC, driving licence, insurance policy, vehicle registration card, etc.....still with them.

After so many questionable practice about Uber (not in Malaysia, but in US) and my impression of Uber Malaysia staff, I don't really have confident with them, neither to Grab. That's why this is one of reason I am holding back signing up for Grab driver too.

Although I got nothing to hide or fear, but, I do value my privacy too

aiya.....so many question, just go register at Uber office, all your question will be answered there.....

Take my words, if you worry this, and worry that, scared of this and scared of that, got high ego issues, please don't drive, in fact, don't do anything.....

It all about risk and experience....u got to try it yourself......you ask 1000 people with 1000 questions, you will get 1000 different answers....best you experience yourself...only if you dare

what u mean driving wrong way?

Perfect answers....

I would say it deteriorating...from when I started in late 2015 till I stop in Oct 2016....now, no comment

Well, that's what Uber one, constant renewal of new drivers

Anyway, this is free market, no one force you to drive, if you like, u drive lor, u don't like, stop driving like me lor.....

I only pity those who got stuck driving, coz got car loan to pay, many commitment to meet but insufficient income...usually, on top of giving them 5* rating with some good comment to cheer them up (hopefully), try to make their life easier (get ready before I requested for ride, so they no need wait for me, give as much detailed description for them to identify me, etc), if I opt to pay cash, leave some tips for them.

And, what I pissed off is that those who keep on trying to recruit for drivers, by saying good income lah, flexible lah, etc......all bullshit, it's all hard work for high income....how much u earn is determine by how hard u willing to work or hour of drive per day. And, there is no fixed and hard rules, everyone got their "own self worth"....some might say average RM25/hour income is ok, some might say too low.....it all up to individual. You got to try it out yourself if it worth your time.....

Most importantly, don't get tied down driving Uber or Grab as main income or only source of income. Then, you will be modern day slavery, no difference like those taxi driver who pajak the car from taxi company, only difference, you pajak from bank this time.

For those who purposely buy car just for Uber, hoping the car installment can cover by fare, you are just signing your soul away.....for those who want to buy a "better" or more expensive car that they can afford, hoping to that fare from Uber/ Grab can subsidized the installment, stop being so naive. Ask yourself if how u feel your car being trashed by strangers (not all riders are asshole, but, there are out there, these are real risk). What if they decide to reduce the fare? Have you factored in your additional or accelerated maintenance cost?

Drive only for fun of it, to meet new people, to find out new route, new area, new place of interest....if u drive just for sole purpose of making money, earning profit, better not. It won't make you rich, even if, it's all hard work, no difference being employee. Only difference, you are your own boss, you drive whenever you want, but, in return, you stop driving, your income stop. You can't afford to fall sick, can't afford to car breakdown or accident. Stop driving, stop income.

20km @ RM0.60 = RM12
29 min @ RM0.25 = RM7.25
Flag rate = RM0.95
Total fare should be RM20.20

Less 20% Uber commission, should be RM16.60

You may want to raise a ticket to Uber helpdesk...

But, chances are their first reply is that the fare is based on upfront calculation, therefore, will be difference, and the difference is within the range. So, in other words, eat yourself lah

U reply few more times, with some nasty flowerly language (English pls, cause I suspect they sub-con the contact center to oversea , if not robot, based on some words scanning, then, select some template ready reply), they will reimbursed u back lor........

After few more times, you found that you spending more times arguing with them about all these nonsense, rather than driving and earning....then, u left with 2 option

1. Suck it up, live with it, consider charity, don't so kira lah...cincai lah.....

2. Give up altogether driving

The choice is yours, nobody force u to drive.....

Coz Uber trying to copy Grab by having fixed fare pricing. But, for Grab, the driver knew before hand the fare, they can make informed decision whether to accept the ride request or not. Then, they throw in dunno what block incentives to entice you to accept ride all the ride come in.

While Uber, every ride request is gamble, you will not know where the ride will bring you to, can be short distance pickup, long distance ride, aka good fare, can be long pick up distance, but short ride distance, lousy fare. It's all depends on luck.....and now, the fare structure does not correspond with the final fare, due to so-called dynamic fixed fare pricing which only Uber themselves know how it come out.

Seriously, with the new implementation of ride sharing rules, those who still wish to drive full time with Uber, better go drive taxi lah at least got cheaper toll rate, can accept and road ride ride hailing (as compare now, only online booking) and the fare also better than Uber or Grab. Convert your car into NGV, even lower operating cost. Plus, government also constantly throw in incentives to taxi drivers during budget time.....your only challenge is only to convince public the already rotten, bad reputation of taxi drivers

Fat dream maybe just changing the quest to promote more driver on the road, as quest is dynamic, not fixed, change every week. More driver on the road, lower quest amount and harder to hit, less driver on the road, more quest and easy to hit.

But, quest, paid by Uber, which determine how much they want to earn, i.e. strategy, high volume lower profit, i.e. higher quest payout or lower volume, but, higher profit, i.e. less quest payout. Plus it all also depends what action Grab do....

End of day, it's competition between 2, Uber and Grab. And, riders nowadays smart, they will choose the lowest fare ride. So, increase fare definitely scared away riders almost zero chance it increase....

Actually, teach people right.....all go camp at klia, dunno for how many hours wait.....crazy...

This intrigue me also.....

And, I did raised this question to some of the Uber/ Grab drivers I meet (I mean when I ride their car lah), they say, everyday they wait about 3-4 hours for before someone request for ride. So, everyday, they will start their day drive to klia to wait, then, each trip earn flat rate of RM75, before less 20% commission, then, once done, go back to klia to queue again, wait another 3-4 hours for next riders. Eeach day, they only get average 3-4 rides, or say 8-15 hours period, where actually they only drive maybe 6 hours, each 1 hour from klia to kl, other time just chill, and empty car back to klia, and for that earn about RM200+, which they said better than driving around in KL/ PJ which earn less. Since they just wait, they just shut off their car, car not moving, lower maintanance cost, lower milage also.

I dunnolol lah, different people different preference kua.......that's why even now u can see lots of taxi camp at klcc, kl sentral, etc......dunno waiting for what also


As for trip to ipoh, actually, u can reject it one lah.....uber only cover KL till Seremban only.....any distance further, u got right to decline. And, if u choose to accept, can nego tepi on the rate coz u unable to pick up any passenger outside kl, so, guarantee empty car back