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post Nov 2 2016, 12:59 AM

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Received email from Uber, again say rider missed me, ask me go online soon laugh.gif

And, plus questionaire about why I stop driving whistling.gif
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post Nov 2 2016, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Nov 2 2016, 01:58 AM)
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1805136

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after minus 20% / 25% uber fee not much left already and need pay income tax.....  yawn.gif
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 2 2016, 08:34 AM)
We are responsible to pay taxes even our income is not from Uber. If you've filed income tax return before, then this should not be a concern/issue since virtually you declare tax, if under taxed then you top up. If overtaxed, then you get refund.
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As mentioned above, whether you need to pay tax or not, is not based on Uber income solely alone, what is mean is Uber income is taxable. It is your responsible to file your own income tax. That's why I keep a detailed records on all my income derived from driving Uber (last time lah, now stop driving jor biggrin.gif ), and all expenses incurred related to driving Uber which I can claim back as deduction, therefore, I can conclude that the nett income I derived from driving Uber, after deducting all expenses, I can only get around RM1.5k per month, which then, I divided with days and hours I drive, the number become cry.gif puke.gif as guanteik "charity Uber"

QUOTE(VLVL @ Nov 2 2016, 09:19 AM)
i have raise this Tax issue and concern before. i m not going to drive if they die die enforce us to declare tax. this is why i dont sign the letter from SPAD previously... whistling.gif
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Whether you sign or not, does not matters.....if IRB decide to audit you, find out that you drive Uber (they have their ways), or under declared your income and tax payable, may the god be with you.....the penalty sweat.gif Exact calculation or rate I cannot remember lah, in principal something like this, you cannot refute what they estimate the tax you suppose to pay, you have to pay what they estimate, aka guilty unless proven innocent rclxs0.gif then, next not only you got to pay the additional tax amount they estimate, they will charge you penalty of the tax, and the penalty % rate is increase over time. Then, on top of that, you got to pay penalty because you late submit your tax filling on top of the previous year tax and penalty, depending how long they want to cari pasal with you (max 7 years whistling.gif , but, if they think you act fraudulently, then, there is no time limit).

Example lah, the number and rate all I simply put one, but, the concept is roughly like this

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QUOTE(VLVL @ Nov 2 2016, 02:57 PM)
wah..  waiting time+time+km+distance. who so free go and monitor every trip. just dont understand why they cant do it like last time. show the fare and surge  rclxub.gif
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Waiting time tarak.....u eat yourself....so, advisable to cancel after 5 min, then, wait around for the rider to request again. At least you got min RM5 gross cancellation fee whistling.gif

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post Nov 4 2016, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(VLVL @ Nov 3 2016, 08:11 AM)
Last time I waited for 9 mins n raised this Concern to uber. Uber said they had paid me and included.. Fxck. I believe them lol
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Used to have, then, they quietly removed it without informing u mad.gif via one of the apps update

QUOTE(YoungMan @ Nov 3 2016, 09:01 AM)
Gov should tax Uber instead. Got money from the citizens, then transfer overseas somemore.
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Oledi tax, provided they register Uber as local company. Just like any company, the company will get tax, while the staff also will get tax via PCB whistling.gif

QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 3 2016, 09:07 AM)
Caught on the bold statements!  smile.gif

You can't claim back unless you have a SSM to file the claims in an OG tax account. But Ok lar, at least you're better than most who doesn't fill the tax for Uber income.
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Can claim. U check thru your Form BE, there is one column under other income. That is the column you suppose to input your nett Uber income less all expenses related to running of Uber icon_rolleyes.gif If everything must have SSM, then, those MLM, insurance agent mati lor.......question is how do you identify and split your car expenses incurred, like petrol and maintainance is related to Uber and which one is personal biggrin.gif This one, gray area, I had my way, but, I can't say my way will be accepted by IRB, neither they will reject it......only time will tell when they come audit me sweat.gif
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post Nov 4 2016, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Nov 3 2016, 11:18 PM)
minimum rm5 also still rugi like that.
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Don't accept the request lor rclxs0.gif
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post Nov 5 2016, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 4 2016, 08:34 AM)
You got that wrong my friend. Let me correct you.

As long as you're filling for BE, the portion that states "other income" is only meant for income from Property at the moment, not MLM/Insurance/Property Agent or even Uber. You need to get this point right. Even if you're claiming for expenses/bills related to property rental, you still need the tenancy agreement, Should you be audited, and you mentioned that you have a way to explain to the IRB will not work. At the end you have to pay back for everything you had knocked off + fine.

Let me give you an example, if I were to claim for petrol for Uber purposes, I can always make 1 trip of RM50, then the whole rest of the year I am claiming for petrol. When being asked, I said, 'Oh I don't have any requests from Uber riders', do you think this is acceptable? No right. IRB aren't idiots. Yes, grey area while filing for OG return but that's business. You know how business works.

With OG tax filing, you can specify what business you're running and file claim reliefs for petrol. Yes, the car has to be registered under your company should you use it for work use (e.g. Uber), and you can claim maintenance, road tax, insurance, petrol etc with it. It's a long tax topic which I do not want to make use of this thread discussing.
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Sorry, I got to disagree with you.....as I already checked with tax agent, and I had also heard it in radio (cannot remember what station, it is a chinese radio station, where they invite one of Malaysia tax expert, quite famous one, for those who work in tax line or study accounting locally will definitely heard of him, Chong Kwai Fatt, during 2015 tax submission deadline around April, where there is one listener throw this question to him, and his reply is that yes, so long as you clearly segregated those expenses related driving Uber and personal, and you can justify it reasonably it, it should be ok)

Of course when u said u made 1 trip of RM50 for today, and you claim petrol for whole 2016, that's a bit ridiculous lah biggrin.gif Are you trying to tell IRB that your business so bad that you only got 1 rider after u been driving for whole year? laugh.gif Do you think they will believe you? biggrin.gif A more realistic and acceptable way would be, say you track how many km you drive for Uber per week, then, you check your total mileage for a week, and then, your petrol cost for the week, then, you apportioned out lor, between Uber and personal.

Just to quote for you another example, say you are professional, engineer kah, lawyer kah, accountant kah or even doctor employed by some company. So, in order for you to practice or work in these field, or to be called engineer, lawyer, accountant or doctor (pls ignore those takde qualification one lah, but still call themselves these title) for the company that hired you, you need to have professional license or membership in their respective field. And, you can deduct the membership fees directly from your Form BE gross income column (i.e. nett off what your employer give you in EA form less membership fee). Don't believe, you can check in the explanation note for filling Form BE biggrin.gif

Problem is a lot of people dunno numerous tax deduction available for them, especially those not so common one, and they scared kena penalty, so, it is better overdeclared, pay more tax, than underdeclared, kena penalty.
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post Nov 8 2016, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(rebirth @ Nov 7 2016, 11:44 PM)
Unluckiest ever. Got a ping and reached. Called up 2 times. No pick up. A radio car came for whole car inspection that took more than 20 minutes. Was at subang. Please beware. Is it operasi towards driver ?

I think the one who call was the police.
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U muka mintak penumbuk, muka pecah rumah? biggrin.gif Ok, ok....sorry, just kidding.....I guess either they just passby the area, saw your car stationary there, look suspicious or someone around the neighbourhood saw some unknown car, thus, call police? U know lah, now, security no good.....

But, did u tell the police you driving or waiting for passenger? Usually, when I told them I am driving Uber, they will let me go one, of course, so long as your licence still valid, roadtax still valid, no fancy after market modification on your car, like loud and big exhaust till head can fit in, back spoiler that almost 2 storey tall or those fancy bling bling light doh.gif
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post Nov 8 2016, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Nov 7 2016, 03:25 PM)
who is Prabu?
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When u received money transfer from Uber biggrin.gif just notice it when I got my final payment from Uber
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post Nov 9 2016, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(rebirth @ Nov 8 2016, 09:20 AM)
Was at bus station. Not housing area. Ori car with no mods
100% bait by polis
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end of day, what is your offence? Did they saman u? Maybe you block the road? Don't think police so free purposely go troll u lah...
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post Nov 9 2016, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(big2me @ Nov 8 2016, 01:29 PM)
hi, how much Uber driver can make weekly if drive at midnight?
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Depends, plus where you station yourself

QUOTE(JakzT @ Nov 8 2016, 07:24 PM)
If my car insurance is under company registration, do I still able to apply Uber driver?
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Can, so long your name is in the car insurance
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post Nov 9 2016, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(asrul @ Nov 8 2016, 07:43 AM)
do uber save the weekly statement on their web?
or do i need to download it for my own purpose, how to download?
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they email to you, you can download oso....follow the email instruction
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post Nov 10 2016, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 9 2016, 02:02 PM)
Anyone here claimed for damage before e.g. rider accidentally broke your door handle or etc? Will Uber pay us based on the receipt provided?
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How much you claim? So far I only claimed RM20 for rider puke.gif
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post Nov 10 2016, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 10 2016, 08:31 AM)
Huh... RM20 for what things the rider broke in your car? The door handler quoted by the service center is RM350 inc parts & labour & spray.
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Nothing broke, just the rider drunk and puke....RM20 is the cleaning fee. For your case, door handle broke, as what you experienced earlier, rider does not have sufficient cash to pay for cash ride, you write to Uber, Uber contact rider, rider acknowledge, Uber pay, rider pay back Uber. I guess same case kua, you can claim, Uber then go contact rider, rider agree, then, Uber reimbursed you back lor whistling.gif

QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Nov 10 2016, 09:33 AM)
latest details from Uber. if they pay you less (due to the so called dynamic upfront fare) this is their remark:

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Habis liou.....Uber is digging their own grave deeper and deeper....I doubt anyone would want to drive for Uber anymore.....already petrol price increase 15 cent to RM1.95 oledi bad enuff, now with this stupid dynamic upfront fare, soon will be exodus of driver, and ultimately left only with Grab.....before that, let me finished off my RM10 credit first, I guess got 6-7 times more rclxs0.gif

QUOTE(ClaraAnnabelle @ Nov 10 2016, 09:50 AM)
Omg.....mean that Uber can suka suka deduct driver's fare?  rclxub.gif  shocking.gif
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Must be rider complain, say you detour.
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post Nov 10 2016, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(rebirth @ Nov 10 2016, 09:27 PM)
Name and their destination?

By the way. I m still not very clear with the new feature. 2 set destination daily. TRIPS HOURS N FARES RECEIVED TOWARDS UR DESTINATION DO NO COUNT TOWARD YOUR.....??

What's this??
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That's mean, if you start your trip at boost area, but, you set your destination, then, rhe boost is not given to you lah laugh.gif
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post Nov 12 2016, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Nov 12 2016, 05:45 PM)
not quite sure....but uber sot sot dei 1 from my experience when i always drive passenger using sg besi highway towards KL city centre towards jln tun razak, i notice riders will always kena charge toll from SMART tunnel although didn't pass coz GPS capture it due to SMART just below, similar to your case?
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With this new features, wonder if Uber will pay you back if the toll is not recorded sweat.gif

QUOTE(rebirth @ Nov 12 2016, 05:52 PM)
Just wondering my uber partner shows same as others ?
Been noticing surge up to 3.5- 4 at klang area especially Padang Jawa JPJ area.
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Either the area is flooded, super jammed, or when u reach there, the demand dropped, or even got, all short distance whistling.gif Unless you already there, not worth to drive there just to chase surge
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post Nov 13 2016, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Nov 13 2016, 12:38 AM)
more earning? doh.gif  doh.gif
if fixed fare with low fare how to earn more? stupid UberMY
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That is Uber standard reply, more rider demand, more online trip, higher earning (for Uber)

The bold one is my own comment laugh.gif

Everytime they changed the pricing, this will be their standard justification. From when they reduced their fare in Jan 2016, then, removal of PHG to boost, RM5 promotion, reduction of KLIA fare, to now, upfront fixed pricing....

Instead of innovate, Uber decide to duplicate (what Grab doing)......might as well they bought over Grab lah.....or slowly let Grab kill them, when they don't have drivers anymore...got rider also no use......but, problem is still many innocent lamb fall into Uber.....when I pay around with my rider apps, notice still can request ride, maybe take longer time, like 10-15 min, instead of 5 min
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 13 2016, 09:03 AM)
Just wanted to share - the Uber Support team is so dumb until they are confused on the dynamic pricing only applies for UberX and they use the automated reply on me when I filed a complain related to UberBlack trips.
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They use similar google search engine, find keyword, then, select the reply based on keyword laugh.gif

QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Nov 13 2016, 11:50 AM)
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Most probably will be something along this line "this is a complex and dynamic, proprietry Uber calculation with optimised the distance and time taken" biggrin.gif
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post Nov 13 2016, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 13 2016, 03:34 PM)
Actually they start to whack the UberBlack driver by rounding down the fare. E.g. say the fare is RM10.95 then will round down to RM10. RM0.95 they will tell the rider it's rounded down.
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How's your claim status of rider damaged your door handle? Manage to claim back? hmm.gif

QUOTE(vin_ann @ Nov 13 2016, 07:29 PM)
Finally back at home from Subang airport to Setapak.

This round, I insist to take Toll route.
The driver says Jln Pahang always jammm bla bla bla... The Uber route suggestion to use Jln Kuching direction.

I just asked d driver to use Duke hway. He keep asking for confirmation few times and I said yes few times.

Now rider fee only RM4.40. so nice..  (actual toll paid by driver RM2.60 & RM2.50)

Sekian my Rider fees report.
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Don't be over-excited, later driver will claim back the difference biggrin.gif

QUOTE(newbiezai @ Nov 13 2016, 07:47 PM)
Just now afternoon I take a nepal stupid people from the sunway to cyberjaya. Reach already say dompet hilang cannot pay. Ask me wait but no come down. I call again and no answer phone already. I hope uber can pay me back. I report already.
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QUOTE(rebirth @ Nov 13 2016, 08:07 PM)
I m curious what uber will do. Please keep us updated
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From my past experienced, Uber first standard reply will say driver responsbile to ensure all fare collection, and Uber will not responsible for it. Then, you continue to reply, if lucky, after 2nd reply, sometimes with expletive language help laugh.gif they will pay you back, but, then, they boldly said it out of goodwill, one time only, next time you kautim sendiri... mad.gif

Which very unfair to drivers, coz they are the one who introduce cash payment (used to be only credit card), and, now, they wash their hand say none of their business.

Not sure how other company, Grab handle this issue, since most of their transaction is cash....any Grab drivers experienced this want to clarify?

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post Nov 13 2016, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 13 2016, 08:45 PM)
2feideiNope dude. What broke was the ash tray at the rear of my right passenger door. The replacement cost is RM300 and no words from them about the claims smile.gif
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Wow sweat.gif Did you follow up? Or you give up, consider donation to Uber?
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Nov 14 2016, 08:48 AM)
So far is through the apps only. I am thinking if I should call in. Wei this is large amount lar, how can I donate it to them?

2feideiYou're my lucky star. Right after you asked I got it.

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thumbup.gif Don't forget to treat me teh tarik biggrin.gif
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post Nov 15 2016, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(karL1218 @ Nov 15 2016, 07:04 PM)
Reach 3mins s8 press start trip .

Time is money
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You press start trip, then, trip shown as cash trip, rider really didn't turn up, end of day, not only you rugi time and petrol, you got to pay Uber fee doh.gif

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