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post Dec 18 2006, 09:25 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi Guys,
I just wish to confirm with you, when you are playing intense FPS games like GoW, CoD2/3 and etc... did you notice there were textures flickering on ground/guns/object?
For my xbox 360, first few minutes it won't show but after 10 minutes, I see the textures are flickering sad.gif

I opened up the xbox and cleared the ori thermal paste and I found out there are bubbles around the dies plus the thermal paste seems "melted" due to excessive heat.
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At the back of motherboard, I saw 3 double sided tapes on the rams chips. But those are not the so-called thermal tapes. Its usage was to protect the ram chips from breaking during motherboard installation. Why I think so? Because the pink color are removable like double sided tape!
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After I had cleared the thermal paste and put on artic silver on both CPU and GPU. Also removed the double sided tapes on ram chips. It does not help much sad.gif

Anyone can advice on this overheating issue? You don't like seeing glitches while playing games right? sad.gif icon_question.gif
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post Dec 18 2006, 09:28 PM

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it happens to me sometime but doesnt flicker just doesnt render the background or player model graphics at sometime
but rarely thou
i got my xbox place horizon and with a 16deg aircond room to pump it cool yawn.gif
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ Dec 18 2006, 09:28 PM)
it happens to me sometime but doesnt flicker just doesnt render the background or player model graphics at sometime
but rarely thou
i got my xbox place horizon and with a 16deg aircond room to pump it cool yawn.gif
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Wow, you have a big horse power aircond in your room. Playing xbox360 really consumes lot of energy.

I believe for your case, it is a bug rather than hardware problem.
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post Dec 18 2006, 10:44 PM

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16deg isnt normal for any brand new aircond?
its just a 1 horse power by panasonic
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post Dec 19 2006, 12:58 AM

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3ROD and now this!!M$,what's goin on?!! vmad.gif

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post Dec 19 2006, 05:25 AM

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my PDZ does have that kinda problem...i dont have other FPS games...but other games like PGR3, Fifa 06, Tombraider etc is okay... hmm.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(double_agent @ Dec 19 2006, 12:58 AM)
3ROD and now this!!M$,what's this?!! vmad.gif
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I would say it is a symptom of heading to 3ROD sad.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Dec 19 2006, 05:25 AM)
my PDZ does have that kinda problem...i dont have other FPS games...but other games like PGR3, Fifa 06, Tombraider etc is okay... hmm.gif
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It seems I am the only one in Lowyat.net facing this problem sad.gif
My xbox mfg date is June. I will post some samples of glitches for you all to have a look tonight. cry.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 11:34 AM

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i have distorted graphics during the boot sequence..where the xbox logo is shown... everything is tearing up...but after a restart everything is ok...weird huh

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post Dec 19 2006, 12:01 PM

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yup same here distorted graphic kindda awkward if u tell me.....it only happen sometime
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post Dec 19 2006, 12:20 PM

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my friend told me maybe because my tv dont have HD but i dunno...so far okay xcept for PDZ.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(double_agent @ Dec 19 2006, 12:58 AM)
3ROD and now this!!M$,what's goin on?!! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Dothan @ Dec 19 2006, 08:54 AM)
I would say it is a symptom of heading to 3ROD sad.gif
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hi
u have XBOX360 3 Red light Error code 0102
problem
just watch video show how to work back normail Green light working
link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYv6b7MndJk...0x360%20xbox360
u watch done u try HOT AIR GUN FIX - XBOX360 will be work Green Light biggrin.gif

Dothan
u both CPU and GPU. Also removed the double sided tapes on ram chips
u cant Removed Sided tapes CPU AND GPU AND Ram Chilp
Senang just watch video how to also Removed
Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnoijDTup7E
u watch done u try this will be also removed tapes
What happan wil be work Cool XBOX 360
help hehehe rclxms.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 01:32 PM

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the first link should be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYv6b7MndJk

cheers smile.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(gopala33 @ Dec 19 2006, 12:45 PM)
hi
u have XBOX360 3 Red light Error code 0102
problem
just watch video show how to work back normail Green light working
link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYv6b7MndJk...0x360%20xbox360
u watch done u try HOT AIR GUN FIX - XBOX360 will be work Green Light  biggrin.gif

Dothan
u both CPU and GPU. Also removed the double sided tapes on ram chips
u cant Removed Sided tapes CPU AND GPU AND Ram Chilp
Senang just watch video how to also Removed
Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnoijDTup7E
u watch done u try this will be also removed tapes
What happan wil be work Cool XBOX 360
help hehehe  rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif  laugh.gif  doh.gif
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I think the 2nd youtube link is for removing the epoxy resin which able for you to solder wires into modch*p for ahem purposes. sweat.gif
Thanks anyway... blush.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 05:10 PM

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Yesterday playin RSV 5 hour straight and got some glitch. Weird, everything going well again after restart the mission.
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post Dec 19 2006, 10:24 PM

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Hi All,
A short update on my xbox, i opened it again to re-coat the artic silver. Below is my steps:
1. Found out the previous coating was too thick, this is no good.
2. Cleaned up the mess
3. Polished the heatsink with sandpaper
4. Re-apply the artic silver again (this time very little and smooth the surface with unused credit card)
5. Running dead rising to raise the heat on GPU
6. When it is hot, press the ram chip to ensure firm contact.

Now praying hard it can minimise the glitches smile.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Dec 19 2006, 10:24 PM)
Hi All,
A short update on my xbox, i opened it again to re-coat the artic silver. Below is my steps:
1. Found out the previous coating was too thick, this is no good.
2. Cleaned up the mess
3. Polished the heatsink with sandpaper
4. Re-apply the artic silver again (this time very little and smooth the surface with unused credit card)
5. Running dead rising to raise the heat on GPU
6. When it is hot, press the ram chip to ensure firm contact.

Now praying hard it can minimise the glitches smile.gif
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haha very good idea!!
DIY , will the artic silver stick to the heatsink or it'll just melt off because of the constant heat?
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post Dec 19 2006, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(XP750 @ Dec 19 2006, 11:23 PM)
haha very good idea!!
DIY , will the artic silver stick to the heatsink or it'll just melt off because of the constant heat?
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The artic silver is not sticky and I don't see any melt off like what thermal paste MS used. I only see MS thermal paste got bubbles (due to boiling?) around the dies and some melt off. See my photos posted on 1st post, thermal paste concentrate more on the 10Mb die on GPU. This is scary to me man. shakehead.gif
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post Dec 19 2006, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Dec 19 2006, 11:50 PM)
The artic silver is not sticky and I don't see any melt off like what thermal paste MS used. I only see MS thermal paste got bubbles (due to boiling?) around the dies and some melt off. See my photos posted on 1st post, thermal paste concentrate more on the 10Mb die on GPU. This is scary to me man.  shakehead.gif
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Oh yes... one of the reason why the MS thermal paste concentrated more on 10Mb die on GPU because my xbox was standing vertical before that. whistling.gif
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post Dec 20 2006, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Dec 19 2006, 11:24 PM)
Hi All,
A short update on my xbox, i opened it again to re-coat the artic silver. Below is my steps:
1. Found out the previous coating was too thick, this is no good.
2. Cleaned up the mess
3. Polished the heatsink with sandpaper
4. Re-apply the artic silver again (this time very little and smooth the surface with unused credit card)
5. Running dead rising to raise the heat on GPU
6. When it is hot, press the ram chip to ensure firm contact.

Now praying hard it can minimise the glitches smile.gif
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still have that problem? sweat.gif
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post Dec 20 2006, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Dec 20 2006, 12:20 AM)
still have that problem?  sweat.gif
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Not sure, tonight will be full Las Vegas to stress test my latest "mod" - polished heatsink + uber thin artic silver layer. Yesterday night i played 30 min of dead rising, the result is positive so far. Cannot eliminate but minimize the glitches.

Caution : Please check the X-clamp is tighly clamped your heat sink. Any loose clamp will result hardware failure. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Dothan @ Dec 20 2006, 02:46 PM)
Not sure, tonight will be full Las Vegas to stress test my latest "mod" - polished heatsink + uber thin artic silver layer. Yesterday night i played 30 min of dead rising, the result is positive so far. Cannot eliminate but minimize the glitches.

Caution : Please check the X-clamp is tighly clamped your heat sink. Any loose clamp will result hardware failure.  sweat.gif
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orait good luck sweat.gif
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post Dec 21 2006, 07:00 PM

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the rod is like some sort of big disease like cancer or hiv omg this is scary
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post Dec 21 2006, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(aegis`- @ Dec 21 2006, 07:00 PM)
the rod is like some sort of big disease like cancer or hiv omg this is scary
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Yes... sad.gif
Actually I played RS:Las Vegas and still see the glitches but for Dead Rising, it is minimized.
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post Dec 21 2006, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Dec 21 2006, 11:49 PM)
Yes...  sad.gif
Actually I played RS:Las Vegas and still see the glitches but for Dead Rising, it is minimized.
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this glitches thing is really weird. maybe try playing in different resolutions like 480i & test it?
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post Dec 25 2006, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(acougan @ Dec 21 2006, 11:52 PM)
this glitches thing is really weird. maybe try playing in different resolutions like 480i & test it?
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I am usig VGA cable. Resolution max out at 1280x1024 tongue.gif
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hey guys..was wondering if u had any graphical glitches with GRAW?

i was playing GRAW and i completed a few levels..so abt 1 hour playin i guess..then at one level..there were oh so many graphical glitches..like..most of the car models were rendered as multiple flat planes, and it stretches as i turn the camera around. then certain areas, buildings were rendered similarly.

i thought my 360 starting to overheat..but when i checked the rear of the console..it was shooting out normal heat. touched the console, and it was warm..but only towards the back fans.

so i just went back to dashboard, then replayed the game and it was ok.

so..is this graphical glitch caused by heat..or it's just a game/software glitch? please enlighten.

p.s: worried cos i just shifted my 360. previously it was on the table open space. now i put it on the middle rack of a 4-tier tv rack, but the tv rack has an open back, no sides even. just a flat rack. only thing is tht the height of this middle rack gives about 2.5 inches space on the top of the console (i lay it horizontally), and the back is 10 inches away from the wall. is this well ventilated enuff? if no, maybe gotta put it back to open space. sweat.gif
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I'm playing GoW. Getting occasional glitches too. I'm sure its a heat problem, 'coz once I let it cool down, it'll work fine.

Don't think its designed for our kind of climate. sweat.gif
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Hi Guys,
Happy new year tongue.gif
As promised, I uploaded the graphic glitches (which occur on dashboard also). This pic was taken when I browse the Video Marketplace. Hopefully you can notice it.

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Any comment? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(Dothan @ Dec 31 2006, 06:35 PM)
Hi Guys,
Happy new year  tongue.gif
As promised, I uploaded the graphic glitches (which occur on dashboard also). This pic was taken when I browse the Video Marketplace. Hopefully you can notice it.

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Any comment?  hmm.gif
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wow never seen someting like that be4... sweat.gif

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post Dec 31 2006, 07:18 PM

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so far i never kena any artifacts and glitches
my aircond 24/7 whenever my xbox is on
16deg and ionizer activated and blasting max power
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QUOTE(aegis`- @ Dec 31 2006, 07:18 PM)
so far i never kena any artifacts and glitches
my aircond 24/7 whenever my xbox is on
16deg and ionizer activated and blasting max power
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QUOTE(Sd-RawK-Cab25 @ Dec 25 2006, 08:51 PM)

p.s: worried cos i just shifted my 360. previously it was on the table open space. now i put it on the middle rack of a 4-tier tv rack
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Wat's underneath and above the 360? check the floor and ceiling wood blocks, aare they hot or not? Example, my amp cooks anything ontop of it. luckily my 360 is underneath it
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QUOTE(marauderz @ Jan 1 2007, 01:14 AM)
Wat's underneath and above the 360? check the floor and ceiling wood blocks, aare they hot or not? Example, my amp cooks anything ontop of it. luckily my 360 is underneath it
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I would suggest to use the chinese chess pieces to lift up the console for better ventilation.
I will upload in-game glitches soon ohmy.gif
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But there are hardly any holes on the bottom. No point lifting it up for ventilation??
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QUOTE(Dothan @ Jan 1 2007, 12:01 PM)
I would suggest to use the chinese chess pieces to lift up the console for better ventilation.
I will upload in-game glitches soon  ohmy.gif
ok, i'm alos curious to know more abt this glitch thingie, considering u have cleaned up the heat sink & paste.



QUOTE(ionStorm @ Jan 1 2007, 12:37 PM)
But there are hardly any holes on the bottom. No point lifting it up for ventilation??
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if u put in in tower (vertical) configuration, touch the left side of the casing after a few hours. very hot, eh?

lifting it up while in horizontal config. can help with heat dissipation, i guess

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QUOTE(acougan @ Jan 1 2007, 12:51 PM)
ok, i'm alos curious to know more abt this glitch thingie, considering u have cleaned up the heat sink & paste.
if u put in in tower (vertical) configuration, touch the left side of the casing after a few hours. very hot, eh?

lifting it up while in horizontal config. can help with heat dissipation, i guess
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You can see my "sample" glitch on this thread.
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Hi guys,
I tried to capture the texture glitches on my xbox 360. Condemned is the game occur most (due to lighting effect?).

I captured 2 pics and 1 video (sorry for the poor resolution, but you still can see how it was and a change of angle may eliminate the glitches)

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Btw...just to let you guys know, I changed for a new unit...and NO MORE GLITCHES! None. Not a single one...at least not yet. Hehe...

The previous unit I had was manufactured in April. This unit is manufactured in August. The old unit they gave me was actually packaged with the Gears of War pack previously. They hadn't sold it so they packed it with the new DOA pack.
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QUOTE(ionStorm @ Jan 7 2007, 01:28 PM)
Btw...just to let you guys know, I changed for a new unit...and NO MORE GLITCHES! None. Not a single one...at least not yet. Hehe...

The previous unit I had was manufactured in April. This unit is manufactured in August. The old unit they gave me was actually packaged with the Gears of War pack previously. They hadn't sold it so they packed it with the new DOA pack.
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post Jan 26 2007, 11:32 AM

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My xbox 360 was dead and rise again thanks to towel trick. Anyway, the glitches still there. I am thinking to re-apply my artic silver.
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QUOTE(Microsuck_360 @ Jan 7 2007, 02:22 PM)
u bought new console?  notworthy.gif
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i see artifacts and graphic glitches right b4 my 360 kena 3ROD, most of the time the air-cond is on and i placed it on a well ventilated place but still it dies on me, i think 3ROD is random no matter which batch of console u got, when it comes u cant stop it sad.gif ... good luck guys.
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QUOTE(REsuperG @ Jan 26 2007, 03:32 PM)
i see artifacts and graphic glitches right b4 my 360 kena 3ROD, most of the time the air-cond is on and i placed it on a well ventilated place but still it dies on me, i think 3ROD is random no matter which batch of console u got, when it comes u cant stop it  sad.gif ... good luck guys.
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yup..if ur 360 is okay one..then no problem..if not hello 3ROD...
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QUOTE(REsuperG @ Jan 26 2007, 03:32 PM)
i see artifacts and graphic glitches right b4 my 360 kena 3ROD, most of the time the air-cond is on and i placed it on a well ventilated place but still it dies on me, i think 3ROD is random no matter which batch of console u got, when it comes u cant stop it  sad.gif ... good luck guys.
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Ohh god. I feel a bit menyesal bought X360 because it sux. Why big and rich company like Microsoft dont learn from their mistake like this, or they don't even care about their product quality. Why not they learn from previous Xbox on motherboard, chip design and the most important their cooling system. They only focus on how to compete with playstation not quality on thier own machine.

If i know about this before i will sure consider to buy PS3 or PSP instead of X360. Every penny count.
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QUOTE(ron4 @ Jan 27 2007, 12:00 PM)
Ohh god. I feel a bit menyesal bought X360 because it sux. Why big and rich company like Microsoft dont learn from their mistake like this, or they don't even care about their product quality. Why not they learn from previous Xbox on motherboard, chip design and the most important their cooling system.  They only focus on how to compete with playstation not quality on thier own machine.

If i know about this before i will sure consider to buy PS3 or PSP instead of X360. Every penny count.
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Althought XBOX360 is quite affordable now, i've never considered getting 1 unit due to 3ROD. I don't wanna waste 1000 over bucks and on a console that might die unexpectedly.

 

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