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Andrewtst
post Jul 26 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(madballs @ Jul 26 2020, 02:48 PM)
Welcome to warm 2 colors. 😉

If your room is not brightly lit, dynamic contrast set to low, else it will be very obvious on lifted black. Just my2sen
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Thanks smile.gif my room is bright, I still feel a bit dark when set to low for some movie, so far medium seems ok. smile.gif

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post Jul 26 2020, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 26 2020, 05:03 PM)
I agree that dynamic contrast @ medium is good trade off. High is very bad as it crush shadow details a lot.

I think if you can ask someone to calibrate white point for you, the warm 2 setting will be very nice because I read before you say is too yellow. Honestly I think is too yellow because we human eyes are too used to blue whits now a days because of all the LED LCD screen around us. Apparently most screens we see in our day to day life is beyond 7000k that's why we suddenly think that warm 2 is too yellow which according to rting and flatpanelshd say they are around 6000k out of the box.
They are different thing. But dynamic contrast is less "destructive" to the source material in how it should look, as long as you don't put it on "high".
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Ya agree high is very noticeable to shadow crush. Medium was just nice in my liking. smile.gif

Warm 2 in origin do too yellowish to me but I had change one thing where I not follow suppose setting by a lot reviewer. I notice color gamut change from auto to wide had actually tone down a bit and now my Warm 2 no longer that yellowish but just nice in my acceptable level. I don't like color gamut as auto as I feel it look slightly dull especially in animation.

So now my setting mostly follow guidance except color gamut in wide instead of auto. Dolby Vision cannot set color gamut, thus I slightly increase the color and this do help as well.

Now I also agreed with you all, DTM do actually make certain film over exposure, for example the new remaster of The Mask of Zorro. I already off it and Dynamic Contrast in Medium is enough bright to me without over exposure issue.

I don't think I will ever ask professional calibrate for me, it is too costly and never in plan.

Now I am satisfices with the output where it is even better than before.

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QUOTE(madballs @ Jul 26 2020, 10:44 PM)
Changing to wide yourself forces colours which were not meant to be used. It will oversaturared the intended colors unless the source is in wide. HDR usually use WCG, normal content usually normal gamut. So auto at let it define by source is the easiest way.

I can understand why you feel its nice. The color looks more pop'ish'. Like when u mismatch black level. But the more you look at it the more it feels wrong, at least to me.

If you want pop'ish' color you can crank up the color from default 50 to maybe 60 or 65.its not correct to do so but at least the color still looks more corrected than forcing WCG.
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Increasing the color won't make what I want. If default color 50 and color gamut auto, it looks even dull than my LG 34” 34UC97G UltraWide IPS Monitor which I set as Cinema mode and no option to change color or color gamut or my previous Panasonic EX600K IPS LED TV. It actually look very washout.

If increase color to 60 or 65, it is a mix of washout + saturation depends on the color.
If increase to 70 everything look too saturation but still not deep in color.

Wide give me strong deep color I want but not saturation and also no washout, it looks balance, maybe it is not accurate but this is the correct one to me.

I read comment from Internet, the auto was actually call Normal previously, LG should not change to call auto as it is misleading, it won't change the color gamut even different source of BT. 709 or BT. 2020 is detect, it remain same. For wide one is using back the native panel color gamut and ignore the preset. As for extended, I find the output a bit like increasing color.

Change color gamut vs increasing color give very different output. Changing color gamut make color stronger and deeper but increasing color make color towards florescent and saturate.

For this, I stick with color 50 and color gamut wide.

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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 27 2020, 04:58 PM)
I PM'd sifu ssjben about this part. Waiting for his reply.

What I observe is that my B9 does change color gamut automatically depending it is SDR or HDR content. I double confirm this because when I bring up the on-screen menu of my receiver, the screen will flash black for a second to change back to BT709 because the receiver's menu is SDR.
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I believe this is due to changing format in between SDR and HDR, it had nothing to do with color gamut setting.

You put auto, extended or wide will give you same result also.
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post Jul 28 2020, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 28 2020, 12:01 AM)
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If that's the case, then why test pattern shows correct DCIP3 coverage (98-100%) when Auto is selected but when force to Extended/Wide it goes above 130%? Can't be colorimeter is lying?
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I think you misunderstand me. I never said Extended or Wide is correct color gamut but goes above is correct as this two color gamut had much wider color coverage.

I mean the Auto Color Gamut label is misleading as it didn't auto switch to different color gamut, it remain the same normal color gamut nonmatter what format it detect, either SDR or HDR.

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I think change setting too much make the output crazy. Haha!

I decide to reset all and not going to additional touch on following
  • Color (default 50), Color Gamut, White Balance, Dynamic Contrast (DC) and also Dynamic Tone Mapping (DTM).
I left to the default setting as it did the best. Now i didn't face too dark issue, no crush black, no over exposure, no washout, no over saturation, don't feel too warm or yellowish anymore. I am very satisfied now. smile.gif

I believe LG engineer or those calibrator hired by LG is Very Professional as well. They probably know more how it work. So I decide using their setting accordingly as it do given the best result so far.
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  • SDR - isf Expert (Bright Room) | Default Color Gamut - Wide | Default Temperature - Warm 2 | Default DC Off
  • HDR10 - Cinema | Default Color Gamut - Auto | Default Temperature - Warm 2 | Default DTM On | Default DC Off
  • HLG HDR - Cinema | Default Color Gamut - Auto | Default Temperature - Warm 2 | Default DTM On | Default DC Off
  • Dolby Vision - Cinema Home | Default Color Gamut - Auto | Default Temperature - Warm 2 | Default DTM On (cannot change) | Default DC Off
For SDR, I choose isf Expert (Bright Room) as it did the best, SDR Cinema mode is extremely washout to me.

For HDR, I choose Cinema as it did the best to me in this profile, isf Expert is a bit greenish.

For Dolby Vision, I choose Cinema Home as Cinema profile is way too dark and not suitable for Bright Room.

The only setting I will change is turn off all noise reduction, sharpness to 25 (15 for Live TV channel), TruMotion to User with De-Judder 4 and De-Blur 10.

By the way, I am using C9, it may different for different model.

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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 28 2020, 03:09 PM)
I understood what you mean. I think I didn't word my post properly, my mistake. What I meant to say was if I change the color gamut option when a test pattern is on screen, it clearly shows a change in color value immediately. This is for SDR only. In HDR, this doesn't happen because I think the content is already using WCG so TV is locked to "Wide" either way, even if you select Auto or Extended.
Oh no wonder don't see him post anymore. Wonder why he get ban.
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Haha now I understand.

Anyway i already reset all setting and choose the one I prefer without alter the setting which impact of color, contrast and brightness.

I believe LG engineer or hired calibrator is well professional, they can't go wrong much. smile.gif

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I already found what I want for HDR but the SDR still very wrong.
I find the SDR - isf Expert (Bright Room) is very wrong, the color is totally over blown.

So I decide to experiment again. Haha!

This time I also tune down a bit of sharpness from 25 to 22 as I am over did last time. Also De-Judder reduce to 3.
Finally I am sticking to Warm2, Color Gamut as Auto for SDR, HDR10 & HLG HDR. For Dolby Vision the value is Wide and cannot be change.

Dynamic Tone Mapping wise I decide left default On for HDR and Default Off for Dynamic Contrast as this give me black crush issue.
Dynamic Tone Mapping make HDR brighter and frank speak I keep comparing On and Off, this value On never have over exposure issue at all.

Now I believe this is my Final Setting, I am complete experiment and decide on what SDR and HDR setting on my LG C9.

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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 30 2020, 02:12 AM)
Sharpness at 22? Wow. I find anything beyond 15 I can see ringing on edge of skin or object already. I keep mine default at 10.
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Hi, To me 10 is way too soft in my distance viewing.
I don't find any issue as you mentioned in value 22 but it do happened after 22 especially on the value 25 I set previously.

They is two default value. 20 is default value for Cinema Home and Standard.

I don't insist of default value? Just getting the one suite. smile.gif

I am testing the value one by one last few days until I satisfied, that why you see my color for SDR is 57, not 55, 60 and so on.

Also my Sharpness is 22 not 20, 25 and so on.

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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 30 2020, 03:36 PM)
You used sharpness test pattern to decide on the value?
I sit quite close to the screen, I think around 2 meters only. So everything is really very sharp already as long as the source is good.
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2 meter, that why. I don't watch that near. Too near for me. Haha!
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I not sure is my eye adapt to it or Netflix had change it. Previously my Dolby Vision setting was based on Netflix and I find Cinema mode was too dark, thus I use Cinema Home even though Cinema Home color a bit shift to blueish.

But today I find it just nice. They is one thing obvious is Netflix had return back to 15Mbps for 4K UHD resolution instead of previously 7Mbps during Pandemic time.

Now I am sticking Dolby Vision in Cinema Mode as well biggrin.gif which means now all my HDR Profile in Cinema Mode and SDR in isf Expert (Dark Room) mode.

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QUOTE(excaliburcombo @ Aug 10 2020, 10:40 PM)
my oled c9 got HBOGo Asia app. But movie in hd only.
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HBO Go whole world movie in HD only.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Aug 10 2020, 08:22 PM)
Quick question, for users of 2019 LG OLEDS, is the HBOGo Asia app available ? I don't see it on my 2017 set in the LG App store but another user commented on the IPTV section that it's available on their LG OLED.
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It is available in my LG C9.
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QUOTE(szecheng @ Aug 11 2020, 03:59 PM)
My 55 C8 got screen replacement twice but still got dead pixel
this time i request for tv replacement they rejected. only can pay me 80% of my purchase price.
i will jump ship to sony a8g oled if LG cant give me tv replacement
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Last time I ask Harvey Norman, if dead pixel less than 3, LG or any brand OLED normally won't change for you.
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QUOTE(neekun @ Sep 5 2020, 09:39 PM)
Just got my LG GX today, I connect Apple TV 4K to TV and TV eARC to sound bar eARC, with this I can't get Dolby Atmos.

If using built in Netflix app in TV, Atmos is passed through with no issue to soundbar.

Anyone here having same issue? I think the only way is either watch using LG Netflix app OR connect Apple TV 4K to sound bar, but with this not sure I can get Dolby Vision on TV or not.
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You must connect your AppleTV 4K to Soundbar to get Dolby Atmos or Multi-channel PCM pass-thru.

As long your Soundbar support Dolby Vision passthrough then no issue.

I am using LG SoundBar and no issue to get Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos and Multi-channel PCM.

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Sep 21 2020, 01:08 AM)
any idea where can I still find LG C9? been to quite a few outlets but without avail..
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I afraid it is to late to find C9 now. The CX already release, means the end of C9.

You should get it before the release of CX where that time had big promotion everywhere.
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After around 1/2 year used. Finally my LG OLED TV reach 2000 hours and did the 1st Auto Full Pixel Refresher yesterday.

Seems so far so good. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Oct 3 2020, 03:10 PM)
Bro, 1/2 year used aldy 2000 hours quiet heavy usage mine exactly 1year old only 690 hours, i use nearly 2 hours per day n use only for 4k ht movie only n the rest viewing from my hall i use samsung quantum tv.
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690 hours is too little for a year. tongue.gif

During MCO, I nearly on 16 hours per day. So it is increasing that much. I only have one TV on my rent place.

Home town TV actually less open, when back home, chat with family more than watching TV. smile.gif

Now back to normal, around 4 to 5 hours per weekday.

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QUOTE(jchong @ Oct 10 2020, 05:24 PM)
Hi, I just took delivery of a supposedly "new" LG 65C9.

But when I check the power on time, I saw this:

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With so many hours on it, now way this can be a new set right?
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This is definitely display set and rewrap as new.

I so heavily use, half year only reach 2000 hours.

This is 2357 hours! That shop also means cannot be trusted and better last business with them.
Off course be nice and get the replacement 1st before say bye bye to them.

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QUOTE(kVyn @ Oct 14 2020, 11:00 PM)
I never knew there was this feature and your post made me go check my also supposedly "new" on purchase C9. My 98 days owned TV clocks in at 2367 hours! That's more hours than I've owned the TV!

I am beyond livid at this point, even moreso at being ripped off by my family's regular go-to guy for all our home electronics. This is our 7th TV purchased from him through the years.

Unfortunately I've only discovered this three months after owning the TV. Not sure if there's any means of recourse now. I will be contacting the seller first thing tomorrow nonetheless to give him a piece of my mind. If anyone has any advice I'm all ears.
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98 days if open 24 hours is 2352 hours.

You can tell the shop that is impossible open 24 hours and you consider loyal customer. Try your luck! Wish you all the best and good luck. smile.gif

In future, explore every part of the device you purchase, don't care is TV or mobile phone or a TV Box.

Settings - is the area I always explorer every single part of it.

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