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post Jun 10 2020, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 9 2020, 07:10 PM)
I asked Panasonic and they say GZ1000 comes with it. Since I haven't bought it, i wouldn't know for sure. Can confirm?
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sorry I miss understanding.what you mean is extra sound bar free gift ? Not the built in tv sound bar?
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post Jun 18 2020, 01:29 PM

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Tv calibration not a easy task. Need expensive measurements tools & software & experience. Need to spend few hours to complete the, sdr, hdr, dolby vision setting calibration. So no way we can copy setting from website, different tv even same model got different measurements result.

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post Jun 19 2020, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 18 2020, 11:59 PM)
Does this inferior motion things bother you people? I seen some youtube video and they look terrible.
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I prefer motion off. I feel uncomfortable with motion setting on. But everyone degree of sensitive to motion is different. You should try it on shop with motion on or off for 24fps video. 60fps video, should be no issue with motion off.
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post Jun 19 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 19 2020, 10:18 AM)
May I ask, how wide is the stand base of the 65" C9?
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https://www.dimensions.com/element/lg-c9-smart-oled-tv-65

stand base width 25.1cm
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post Jun 19 2020, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jun 19 2020, 02:35 PM)
LCD you mean. LED is a backlight, not a panel.

Yes all high end LCDs has higher response times than OLEDs, it's simply the limitation of LCD.
It's important to understand that smooth motion in madvr is NOT motion interpolation, unlike what LG's TruMotion setting does.
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Interesting. Because I only saw movie in blu ray player. So I know nothing about madvr. Do you turn off LG TruMotion setting , when you are using Smooth motion ?
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post Jun 19 2020, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 19 2020, 02:55 PM)
Have you personally compare the motion handling of the C9 vs the Sony's?

I am asking because many people say Sony's is better but some reviews say they are equal. So I am interesting in actual personal opinion of those who have seen the 2.

I have seen some Youtube showing this C9 stutter problem and this is holding me back. I am currently using a plasma
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No need worry so much. Sony & C9 do the good job for 24fps movie.
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post Jun 25 2020, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(shikimori @ Jun 22 2020, 08:38 PM)
Finally I made the purchase for LG C9  55" at Best Denki for RM 6999 and add in another RM 700 5 years extended warranty. Since they said will cover burn in.

Heard that cx will be a downgrade in terms of the hdmi 2.1 and some other things.
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CX compare C9 , no more dts sound support. HDR peak brightness is reduce.
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post Jun 25 2020, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 25 2020, 05:19 PM)
There must be a valid reason for LG to reduce peak brightness. May be panel lifespan being noticeably affected with too high a brightness?
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Yes, you are correct. Improve panel lifespan.
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post Jun 26 2020, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 26 2020, 07:55 AM)
So why is LG reducing the brightness of the CX, knowing people for whatever reason, will talk about it and potentially affecting sales?
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Some Information of Cx oled TV Review, Interesting article. May be reduce peak of brightness can get better picture quality.

The white and blue sub-pixels are slightly smaller than last year, but the operation remains the same: each pixel is made up of four sub-pixels (one green, one red, one blue and one white).The white and red sub-pixels are larger in order to improve the maximum brightness of the screen, while maintaining a color temperature close to 6,500 K .

LG changed its method since last year to avoid clipping and the curve is now smoothed from 60% luminance to preserve details in very bright areas. The weak point of Oled technology remains the maximum brightness, this year down on the CX. While we measured 720 cd / m² on the 65C9 of 2019 and 800 cd / m² on the 55C8 of 2018, our Oled LG 65CX TV was content with 665 cd / m². This is probably the consequence of the reduction in the size of the white and red sub-pixels, and it is, let's face it, a little disappointing. While we desperately await the increase in the brightness of Oled panels, there is only Panasonic with its high-end Oled TV 55GZ2000 and HZ2000 this year which manages to surpass all the other competitors thanks to a personalized panel using a home cooling system and a specific power supply allowing to reach a peak of brightness of 952 cd / m².

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post Jun 26 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(f8. @ Jun 26 2020, 02:15 PM)
I started reading this thread at around page 95 in may, I was looking for a 65in c9 for my parents and wanted to gain market intel what's the lowest price as the cheapest on lazada was around 11k and still is (except for a 3k+ cx which is likely a scam).

I use the first gen 55ea9800 in my own house which I still enjoy very much today, no 4k and hdr notwithstanding. I use an oppo udp203 with a roku stick which allows me to output coaxial digital to my old dac and music system. I only listen 2 channels.

SSJBEN you mentioned madvr, is this an app that can be installed on the tv or oppo or perhaps roku?

Somewhere some experienced people mentioned no point to wait for price to drop too low, that there comes a time the price goes up a bit as it becomes discontinued and demand spikes.

So I went to desa home theatre on the very same day I read that and found they could let it go for 9.8k so I just bought it and my parents are enjoying it since a week or 2 back.

To those undecided and pacifying oneself the price will drop a lot and that the cx is inferior, well it will be tough to swallow when cx appears in july and c9 runs out. Faced with a higher price for cx (rm15k launch price?) And so called technical inferiority, what is one to do then?

Here's some compensation, I did see some youtube comparison of displaying static images, I felt the cx offered a picture which seems warmer and deeper vs c9.

Thank you to all of you who shared openly your knowledge. It is much appreciated and enabled me to make a decision. Thank you.
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post Jun 26 2020, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(f8. @ Jun 26 2020, 03:46 PM)
You misunderstood. My words were deeper and warmer, all subjective terms. I did not mention white point or luminosity values or gamma. Do you understand the word subjective and also note I use the word do you guys FEEL.

But it appears you are quick to call people out for doing dumb shit. Stop being an arrogant person.
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white point calibration purpose make all the tv get as close as 6500k color temperature as possible. IF both c9 & Cx were calibrated, That is mean both TV should Be same warm color tone. What you see the different on youtube , maybe because HDR content got slightly different peak brightness. I believe in SDR content , both tv look to be same.
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post Jun 27 2020, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 26 2020, 09:52 PM)
Sony 400 nits or 4000 nits? I also read the A8G is too dim with Dolby Vision and that is a concern.

I am looking at C9, A8G and GZ1000. I don't play games. Netflix and youtube. So PQ and sound are the important things I look for. In non-bright room use. Care to give me your views on these 3?

Thanks.
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I also recommend gz 1000 for your viewing habits. Below is the panasonic oled gz950 in uk reviews, actually is the same tv as gz1000 in Malaysia.



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post Jun 29 2020, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 29 2020, 06:59 AM)
I do not mean to insult. I am just trying to understand.

I want to know, what do people mean by "accuracy". Because I read people saying the Panasonic are more natural (some describe as dull) but less pop than LG. Using Panasonic and LG as example. Is accuracy means more natural or does it means more pop?
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Accuracy is more natural & more shadow detail. Color no over-saturate , No under-saturate.
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post Jun 29 2020, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 29 2020, 10:25 AM)
Then that would mean slightly more "dull" than "pop"?
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May be this is best description for you. one you get white balance correct , you actually get more shadow detail , not dull. you feel dull because setting still not accurate even in most correct picture mode.
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post Jun 29 2020, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 29 2020, 11:59 AM)
If it is a simply case of getting whatever reading to get as close as the reference, why can't manufacturer just do that and saving people the trouble of getting it calibrated?

On one of my plasma, sometime the skin tone of people is simply too warm or 'red'. What do I need to adjust?
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White balance adjustment in most corrected picture mode, color tone in warm 2. Can help you solve the problem, but you need the TV menu provide the adjustment setting. Because TV is mass production, every TV even same model with different tv panel need different calibration value. Actually, Panasonic do the great job, you can get less inaccurate picture compare to others brand tv. Below lg vs panasonic , both tv look same color tone after calibration.


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post Jun 30 2020, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jun 29 2020, 04:45 PM)
In the olden days, you buy. Switch on. Watch. Life is now complicated.
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No need think too complicated. Just buy any oled tv . You will like it once you get used to the tv. May be you like to use standard mode to enjoy your regular tv content. That's why LG give so many picture mode & setting for consumer to choose. IF not they just give one filmmaker mode to consumer only. This nothing wrong, You are the one to paid the tv. Anyway , Actually Lg c9 & panasonic GZ1000 got auto-calibration feature. You can buy meter & software form calman website, follow step by step , DIY auto calibration by software.

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QUOTE(touristking @ Jul 2 2020, 10:46 PM)

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Touristking Bro. Just for fun. Do you know which one tv is plasma , which one is Led TV. Do they look so much different at good TV demo video?



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QUOTE(myxery @ Jul 3 2020, 04:45 PM)
right plasma, left LED? just try guessing
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Right is LED,Left is plasma. LED show HDR color, plasma show sdr color. Interesting comparison.
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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 7 2020, 03:54 PM)
Do ppl use peak brightness setting for SDR? I am asking cos the TV installer told me to set to high but it seems like that just make the picture unnecessarily bright??
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Standard sdr peak brightness for dark room only need 100nits. From bright room, you can increase the brightness suit your environment. I use auto brightness setting to let tv automatic adjust brightness .
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QUOTE(JustCheeze @ Jul 9 2020, 10:08 AM)
I want to ask what colorimeter you use? I want to buy one.
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http://calmankb.groovehq.com/help/calman-h...-lg-walkthrough
If you can buy Calman Home for LG software &  Calman Compatible Meters which list down in website,you can use software to do auto calibration. You can automatic get accurate white balance & color space . More than correct oled light.

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