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Convael
post Apr 27 2021, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 27 2021, 02:40 AM)
Just done update my Apple TV 4K & iPhone 12 Pro Max to version 14.5 and try the color calibration for my Apple TV 4K and it show my LG C9 TV color balance is accurate, no need to calibrate. lol. rclxms.gif

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It is by no means going to replace or match any real calibration with toolkit .

We are always aiming for 6500k for color temperature but there are rarely any commercial display can land right on that number , usually 6400-6600 would be considered very accurate .


In that case , I really doubt an Iphone 12 camera sensor can match a real colorimeter . Even so it probably is using a fairly loose range of numbers to determine the color balance .


Again , calibration requires a reference point , a look up table . How do people know if Iphone 12 or even Samsung Galaxy has an accurate L.U.T ? If it is not , how do you calibrate the Iphone 12 's camera sensor to begin with ? You can't .

Last time I check , displaymate , which is what most mobile brands are using as their display reviews , are posting inaccurate numbers and testing is done on pre-shipped , cherry picked units sent specifically from the brands .
Which is almost as reliable as taking law lesson from Kim Kardashian .


Typically as accurate as most OLED TVs are out of the box , they don't require too much work on color balance , unfortunately the same can't be said for B9 and BX.



TL;DR : Nice feature but I would not call it a " calibration " , more of a quick examination . Probably works best on cheaper TV such as the ABCs from China , a place where red looks purple , green looks yellow .

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post Apr 28 2021, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(881118 @ Apr 28 2021, 12:37 AM)
this cx or c1?
when?
price?
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C1 .

Soon .

More expensive than what 85% of people are expecting . One of the guys here think it will launch at RM3000 , how I envy his optimism .




QUOTE(calkh @ Apr 27 2021, 01:33 PM)
By the way, you seems like the expert seller here - please PM me your store if you don’t mind.
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Nope I don't sell TVs .



If you are planning on buying QN90A , do note that our QN90A is not the same model as reviewed by Rtings .
Our QN90A is of IPS panel , which means it is more in line with the QN85A 's performance in the US .


As for the G1 series , I don't have any news on that atm . All I can tell you now is they are not coming anytime soon .
Perhaps they are struggling to produce enough " EVO - PANEL " for the MY market .

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post Apr 28 2021, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(yee0810 @ Apr 28 2021, 03:35 PM)
How do you tell or know that the QN90A we get is the ADS panel. I actually had a look at the 85 inch QN85A on display at IPC HN. That model is ADS however specifically at the 85inch it is supposedly a VA panel
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They don't make ADS / IPS panels at 80 " ++ .
Therefore , most of the large sizes TV you get are using VA .




This is an LG thread so it is hardly appropriate for me to say anything regarding Samsung TV here .

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post Apr 29 2021, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(calkh @ Apr 29 2021, 05:46 PM)
Interestingly, the LG G1 is listed on the Malaysia page....I know...it means very little and could be a mistake. But at least this is a glimmer of hope that it’ll come to MY eventually.

LG G1 MY
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This is all of the OLED models they have submitted for approval .

The G series are not in the list .
Few weeks ago I was told there may not be allocation for G series in MY .


There are still times before the official launch , maybe they will surprise us .

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post May 1 2021, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(calkh @ Apr 30 2021, 11:39 AM)
Still crossing my damn fingers though...

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Looks like your prayer has been answered .

They seem to have procured a limited quantity of G1 from SG - LG .

Just got an update yesterday and it has been approved .

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The 48" C1 should be available after raya , in about 2-3 weeks .

Expect a price tag of $6000+- .

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QUOTE(oguraX @ May 5 2021, 12:22 PM)
My CX55 just arrived yesterday, today i check the total power on time already have 1005 hours, is it normal for a “new” tv?
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Display unit .
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post May 5 2021, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(khleekc @ May 5 2021, 07:28 PM)
I just pulled trigger on bx55 at rm5650. My first oled! 🙏🙏
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I want to say grats , but you are setting the bar really low .


QUOTE(passmaster14 @ May 5 2021, 06:56 PM)
hi guys, if the BX and CX price difference is around RM1.2k, is the BX a better choice? where does it noticeably lose out to the CX? been going back and forth for a few days now haha.

also, not very familiar with the extended warranties, but some shops are charging 15% of the RRP, while another shop puts it at 20%. what's the usual practice?
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Considering you are going to spend RM6-7K on a new TV , 1k doesn't seem a lot .
I am not even going to talk about the hardware / PQ by now , check out our discussion at previous pages .


I am just going to remind you this .

If they have firmware update , such as the black dithering improvement dated all the way back to 2018.
You may not get it at the same time as the C/G/E/W/R series owners . In fact , you might not get the update at all.


That is what LG intends to do , they are really putting the B series on the spot now .

At the same time , the B series also use more plastics [instead of metals] in the build stand and backcase .
Something to consider if you don't plan to mount your TV .

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post May 9 2021, 02:09 PM

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The C1 48"

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post May 11 2021, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(881118 @ May 11 2021, 03:26 AM)
this is not your TV right?
this one is during the convention?
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Obviously not , they have only got 2 units of 48 " in the whole MY at the time I took this picture and these 2 babes are on their way to Penang now .
Their manager is nice enough to let me tinker around the TV for an hour .


I also help them tune the picture mode a little before showing to the public .

This specific unit is running on ISF expert bright mode , measured about 580 cd/m2 on CALMAN L20 test pattern in Cinema User mode .

There is another one next to it , running on showroom - Vivid mode which measured around 700 cd/m2 .



I don't need another OLED TV as my home & workplace have already got 6 OLED screens .
If I am buying another OLED , it will be the 2000 series from Panasonic but I am unable to find someone to import it during the Pandemic at reasonable price .

But I will continue to examine these new LG models [ And Samsung & Sony's ] that are releasing throughout the year whenever I get the chance .

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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 11 2021, 05:01 PM)
When it comes to the 48-50" TV's in the premium class in Msia, memang only got these two. Sony ain't bringing their Master 48in over.

If C1 is unavailable (maybe MY units too low like PS5), this is 2nd best alternative.
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There's no 50" QN90A in MY though . The smallest size is 55 " .
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QUOTE(latios507 @ May 11 2021, 05:57 PM)
Yup. I personally contacted Samsung MY support and it took them a day to confirm that 55" & above QA90N in MY are using VA panel, so you need to get the 55" if you want the VA panel.

They even gave me a free hefty discount voucher for me to purchase the TV, but I'm waiting for Sony A80J to arrive and see how it goes smile.gif
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No , it isn't .


Samsung MY support knows nothing about TV . In fact , they don't even understand the difference between VA and IPS until I have contacted their Korean representative .


All of the QN90A models , from 55 " to 75 " are all using ADS / IPS .



And if they told you it is VA , they would be wrong because the models released in the market now are clearly using IPS .

Their catalog specification would also be wrong if that is the case .

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QUOTE(latios507 @ May 11 2021, 06:01 PM)
I'm just stating what I was told. If you don't believe it, feel free to biggrin.gif
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I don't need to " believe " it .

I am just straight up saying , you are wrong , the information you obtained is wrong and Samsung Support MY is also wrong [if that is what indeed what they told you].


I have examined the 65 " of QN90A in the KLCC a week ago , it certainly has very " shallow " black compare to last year's Q95T .

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QUOTE(latios507 @ May 11 2021, 05:57 PM)
There are plenty of 50" on shopee. It starts from RM8K
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Refer to the catalog of their website .
So , are you saying they have uploaded the wrong catalog ?


They have never gotten any 50 " of QN90A approved here , so selling it would be illegal .

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As for those 3rd party units , I have no idea where those are coming from .
And they cost roughly the same as 55QN90A , either they made a mistake or those are import units .
Good luck having fun trying to claim warranty from imported TVs.



This is an LG thread , this will be my last time clarifying anything regarding the rival brands here .

If you have question which I am more than happy to answer , you can always tag me @ Samsung's thread .

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QUOTE(latios507 @ May 11 2021, 07:04 PM)

I'm just mentioning 50" is readily available on shopee. You yourself said Samsung MY doesn't know about TV so let's give them a benefit of doubt biggrin.gif


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Funny story , I just msg gamer's hideout on shopee regarding the 50 " , it stated " 7 units " left .

The owner told me all Units have sold out instantly [ yea right because a lot of ppl want to buy 50" LCD at RM8000 when the 48" OLED is priced at RM6000 ] .
Afterthat they went on to change the page to " SOLD OUT " and blocked my chat , now that is totally not fishy .
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ May 12 2021, 10:29 AM)
I will go LG 48" C1 coz my room setup cannot fit large TV  laugh.gif

If size no issue, I prefer A80J coz Sony's picture processor is no contest the best in the business.
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Are you sure you don't mean Panasonic ?

Sony is pretty typical thesedays , stagnant , arrogant and overpriced .
The HDMI 2.1 features update last year has yet to be fulfilled and looks like they plan to continue on that route for 2021's models too .


At least LG is always catching up , plenty of firmware and feature updates .



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QUOTE(calkh @ May 13 2021, 04:52 PM)
I agree with this....Panasonic is probably the best pic quality and processing - but Convael knows these OLEDs will never come to Malaysia.

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HZ1000 , 1500 and GZ1000 are available in Malaysia , they have the same HCX pro processor as the 2000 series .


What always bother me is their OS - MyHomeScreen which is clunky and slow to update .

Other than that , these HCX pro processors from the last two years feature the best picture quality in a commercial TV and they are often used among colorist and grading suite .

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QUOTE(881118 @ May 16 2021, 08:13 PM)
lol so far krono only sold 1 unit of C1 48 to me? (9 units left in shopee)
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48 " is indeed a little too small for TV . Only people who really need to fit a certain space will find any usage for it .

And majority of the monitor crowd is well aware of the Burn-In issues despite being overblown .


The thing is , 55 " CX from last year can be gotten at around the same price , so there is little incentive actually get something less for the same price .



QUOTE(touristking @ May 15 2021, 02:11 PM)
So how much better do you think the Panasonic's processing is?
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Ahead of all commercial TV brands on the market , that is for sure . They strike the best balance among the big4 .


There are more information I can share with you but it will turn out to be a 100 pages + reply and this is not a Panasonic thread.

For example , among wRGB OLED on the market , there is some kind of color processing errors [?] in the undertone of cyan , or very pale blue if you like.

Hence , these LG-made wRGB TV has a strange push towards Cyan when displaying White , despite being already calibrated to D65 white point .
We have noticed this a couple of years ago , when being compared to QLED back in the days . Since OLED was , by nature , more accurate than any LCD , we put the blame on Samsung for making oversaturated TV (which is true but not in this case) .


In the last 2 years , I noticed the Panasonic HCX pro is so precise to the point it has eliminated the problem entirely . And yes , without the needs of calibration .

Perhaps it is not mentioned by many reviews , outlets like HDTV would just calibrate it away by dialing down the blue because they have a lot of reference material to look at .

Not a super dealbreaker but something to be noted for people who are claiming Sony has the best visual processing in the world .


QUOTE(latios507 @ May 17 2021, 12:47 AM)
More & more reviews are slowly trickling in, and most of the YouTube TV reviewers from Avsforum have nothing but praises for A80J in delivering the same picture quality as the A90J but at a lower brightness yet affordable price. I'm a casual gamer so I can wait for the VRR if it ever comes out & I consume more media because of my HTPC setup.

If ur a gamer then LG C1 is definitely a no brainer for its gaming features & calibration options. Good buy smile.gif
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Avsforum has a large crowd of Sony fanboi because they don't get Panasonic so they can only compare it against LG's .

And I can definitely tell you are a new Sony OLED owner since you are completely unaware of the tricks they pull during their new product's year.

All I can tell you is , keep an open mind .

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QUOTE(TongCN @ May 17 2021, 09:55 AM)
Finally done pasang my CX65 during weekend biggrin.gif
Still havent fully explored the TV function yet though cause sambil spring clean the whole living room and cable management.

Converting from Samsung NU8000 to CX OLED and first thing noticed. The black is really good biggrin.gif
But my wife macam no see any difference  sweat.gif
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Turn off the lights , let her see the true colors smile.gif

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