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post Jan 21 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 21 2016, 02:11 PM)
but imho/personally, i dont see the benefits of AIO's.
Easier to setup and neater than big heatsinks lor.

Try installing stuff like Noctua D15 or say Thermalright Arrow SB-E and such.

In some cases it's near impossible to install without dismantling the board.

Small (some) casings work great with AIO too. For example casing like Thermaltake Core V1. Here's the top down view of my unit.

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At that size, it's impossible to fit many tower coolers. Mid / small ones are fine but they lack the aesthetics and cooling capacity might be limited, especially when you're running higher power draw processors.
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post Jan 21 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 21 2016, 04:30 PM)
Easier to setup and neater than big heatsinks lor.

Try installing stuff like Noctua D15 or say Thermalright Arrow SB-E and such.

In some cases it's near impossible to install without dismantling the board.

Small (some) casings work great with AIO too. For example casing like Thermaltake Core V1. Here's the top down view of my unit.
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well i'm not one for aesthetics (most of the time anyways, i mean, i got my bike delayed 4 months just because i want red color rofl), and i do own (and still using) a thermal right IFX14, ex king until the noctua dethroned them wink.gif

i just recently replaced the fans too as the final fan (installed 2 lol) died and my pc thermal shut down from cpu exceeding 100c rofl.
well, 2 wire clips, not too bad aside the few minor skin cuts from the fins lol

i'd still go with air (if im not into wc) since i dont really replace the fans all the damn time.
but yes, if you want aesthetics, or have a small casing, then you're right that water AIO would be a good solution.
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(amuroooo @ Jan 19 2016, 11:12 AM)
Hi guys , i'm not sure this is the right section but I'm pretty sure there are a lot of PC Jedi here  notworthy.gif
Budget : 200-250
Requirement : CPU COOLER (currently using stock cooler , cpu is FX-6300)
Current status : Temperature around 60-something when playing GTA V , dota , starcraft etc . It scares me

So what is the best option for me ? Liquid cooler ? Air cooler ? Why should I choose this one over the other one ?

I'm not going to OC my rig  (for now.........probably tongue.gif )

I seriously appreciate any suggestion smile.gif and also please indicate the reason . I am a newbie for these things !

Planning to buy the cooler this weekend @ lowyat . Also suggestion for the best shop , if possible ?  icon_question.gif  biggrin.gif
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air cooler...can't go wrong with hyper 212x..good fellas in LYN suggested me this last time..has been running perfectly in my rig for the last 2 years..couldn't be more happier, it cools my fx8350 by about 20-25 degrees compared to stock cooler (before wraith came)
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 21 2016, 02:11 PM)
but imho/personally, i dont see the benefits of AIO's.
1. Aesthetics
2. More free area to work around the processor / PWM
3. Lower possibility of bending the motherboard as the waterblock/pump is very light compared to high end air cooler
4. Easier to change / upgrade the RAMs since some high end air cooler does block the RAM slots
5. You don't have to worry about the heatsink breaking the motherboard when you move the CPU around
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:39 AM

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since malaysia is HOT, how's the reliability of liquid cooling hoses of AIO CLC? rubber rot? will it last for >5years?

i'm more concern about the reliability than cooling performance. water cooling setup is neat though. besides that, certain graphics card are only available in wc solution (Fury X & Radeon Pro Duo)

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post Mar 17 2016, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 17 2016, 10:38 AM)
1. Aesthetics
2. More free area to work around the processor / PWM
3. Lower possibility of bending the motherboard as the waterblock/pump is very light compared to high end air cooler
4. Easier to change / upgrade the RAMs since some high end air cooler does block the RAM slots
5. You don't have to worry about the heatsink breaking the motherboard when you move the CPU around
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majority just go with 1 whistling.gif
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
since malaysia is HOT, how's the reliability of liquid cooling hoses? rubber rot? will it last for >5years?

i'm more concern about the reliability than cooling performance. water cooling setup is neat though. besides that, certain graphics card are only available in wc solution (Fury X & Radeon Pro Duo)
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for good tubing, it isn't purely rubber, or even rubber at all.

considering the thickness/material of my primochill, i think it'll last longer than my lifetime LOL!

took me a bit of effort to cut it, and stuff it into my compression fittings sweat.gif
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post Mar 18 2016, 08:31 AM

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it really depends on what you wanna achieve, with tradeoffs.

personally i use aio on cpu because i think it's quieter, easier to install, give me more space to swap stuff (air coolers are bulky), and it's relatively cheaper than custom wc. (the bonus is aesthetic look hehe)

i also use aio to cool gpu. it's much more efficient without making noise, and i use the same aio and gpu bracket for different generations of gpu. (cheap; it's poor man's gpu cooling lol)

will go for custom wc when i have time. plan to put rads outside and away from the rig. it will take up more space but i think it's much better than cranking these hot stuff inside the rig, having less parts that leak inside the rig, interfering air flow and all.
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post Mar 18 2016, 12:49 PM

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Nothing beats passive-cooled unit for silent cooling, using big air-cooler heatsink.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 18 2016, 12:49 PM)
Nothing beats passive-cooled unit for silent cooling, using big air-cooler heatsink.
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i guess so. lemme save some extras first lol
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post Mar 18 2016, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Mar 17 2016, 10:47 AM)
for good tubing, it isn't purely rubber, or even rubber at all.

considering the thickness/material of my primochill, i think it'll last longer than my lifetime LOL!

took me a bit of effort to cut it, and stuff it into my compression fittings sweat.gif
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Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate:
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_...x?id=C_00002345
Tube Material : Rubber

NZXT mentions Rubber in its spec. I guess Corsair, Arctic Cooling & other AIO too cos all using the ASETEK design.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 18 2016, 05:33 PM)
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate:
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_...x?id=C_00002345
Tube Material : Rubber

NZXT mentions Rubber in its spec. I guess Corsair, Arctic Cooling & other AIO too cos all using the ASETEK design.
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http://www.primochill.com/product/primofle...dshed-red-copy/
plastic i guess.

then there's acrylic/hard tubing.
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post Mar 18 2016, 06:08 PM

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I've read many comments on reddit and tomshardware about their corsair hydro hoses crack, which really fears me. As this is Malaysia with hot and humid temp, i'm worried that the AIO hoses might not last long.

Those with plastic/acrylic are for dedicated water cooling setup, not AIO CLC. My questions are pertaining to AIO CLC.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 18 2016, 06:08 PM)
I've read many comments on reddit and tomshardware about their corsair hydro hoses crack, which really fears me. As this is Malaysia with hot and humid temp, i'm worried that the AIO hoses might not last long.

Those with plastic/acrylic are for dedicated water cooling setup, not AIO CLC. My questions are pertaining to AIO CLC.
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oh you didn't mention specifically.

well, up to you, inspect the rubber condition more often, and it should still be fine.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 18 2016, 12:49 PM)
Nothing beats passive-cooled unit for silent cooling, using big air-cooler heatsink.
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+1 biggrin.gif love air cooler + silent .... it only get noisy when it's rendering something hard ....
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post Mar 18 2016, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(samson1618 @ Mar 18 2016, 07:10 PM)
+1  biggrin.gif  love air cooler + silent .... it only get noisy when it's rendering something hard ....
It won't get noisy at all if you're running passive. biggrin.gif

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post Mar 22 2016, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 18 2016, 11:40 PM)
It won't get noisy at all if you're running passive. biggrin.gif
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well if you want to put it that way yes !!! hahaha
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if i wana go water it must be the full on part by part setup not those AIO

since i dont have the money i use air cooler, using D15 and its great..easy to install even it's big and worry free everyday use..good for uncle like me lol
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Mar 18 2016, 11:40 PM)
It won't get noisy at all if you're running passive. biggrin.gif
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if only it can be done on nvidia 980Ti and AMD furyX
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post Apr 5 2016, 11:56 PM

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Air cooler Noctua Nh-D15 user. Have been using this cooler more than 2 years. I switched from a Aio water cooler due to tube broken, water leaked. then after using Noctua NH-D15, feeling happy and no need to worry the water tube broken or caring about the water bump noise. The bad is only big. The good is silent and good temperature. Very stable.

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