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 Liquid Cooler or Air Cooler ?, Need your help , sifus !

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Quazacolt
post Jan 21 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 21 2016, 07:49 AM)
price? Nope, top tier air cooler is 2x or more than lowest AIO.

performance? Top tier air cooler is not only better than lowest AIO but better than even mid / high AIO.

Top Tier air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15 can out perform ThermalTake Water 3.0 Ultimate (360mm radiator!)

http://www.goldfries.com/hardware-reviews/...eatsink-review/

The only way I see how water cooling can beat air-cooling, is to go custom WC of which each CPU waterblock costs more than the AIO system itself.

That's just waterblock, haven't consider the pump, radiator, fans, tubes, coolant and fittings.
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totally agree on this post

unless you're willing to spend for a full custom WC (for me, it costed me well over 3k, basically ANOTHER decent/entry to mid level gaming pc), you're better off sticking with mid/top end air coolers like noctua d15 or majority of their offerings.
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post Jan 21 2016, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(amuroooo @ Jan 21 2016, 12:20 PM)
I read all your explanation .

Damn that was sick . You really know what you are doing  smile.gif

Thank you for your time explaining all those things for me . Maybe I'll visit LYP this weekend and see what can I get . Maybe a AIO L.cooler + few casing fan (CM sickleflow / jetflo ) or maybe I will grab 1 air cooler , depending on the availability .
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viewnet got noctua D15

but imho/personally, i dont see the benefits of AIO's.

they are in between air and custom wc's, it's like a half bucket solution.
i personally prefer to either do it once/do it right, or not do it at all, in this case, either full custom WC or just stick with simple air cool
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post Jan 21 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 21 2016, 04:30 PM)
Easier to setup and neater than big heatsinks lor.

Try installing stuff like Noctua D15 or say Thermalright Arrow SB-E and such.

In some cases it's near impossible to install without dismantling the board.

Small (some) casings work great with AIO too. For example casing like Thermaltake Core V1. Here's the top down view of my unit.
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well i'm not one for aesthetics (most of the time anyways, i mean, i got my bike delayed 4 months just because i want red color rofl), and i do own (and still using) a thermal right IFX14, ex king until the noctua dethroned them wink.gif

i just recently replaced the fans too as the final fan (installed 2 lol) died and my pc thermal shut down from cpu exceeding 100c rofl.
well, 2 wire clips, not too bad aside the few minor skin cuts from the fins lol

i'd still go with air (if im not into wc) since i dont really replace the fans all the damn time.
but yes, if you want aesthetics, or have a small casing, then you're right that water AIO would be a good solution.
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Mar 17 2016, 10:38 AM)
1. Aesthetics
2. More free area to work around the processor / PWM
3. Lower possibility of bending the motherboard as the waterblock/pump is very light compared to high end air cooler
4. Easier to change / upgrade the RAMs since some high end air cooler does block the RAM slots
5. You don't have to worry about the heatsink breaking the motherboard when you move the CPU around
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majority just go with 1 whistling.gif
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post Mar 17 2016, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 17 2016, 10:39 AM)
since malaysia is HOT, how's the reliability of liquid cooling hoses? rubber rot? will it last for >5years?

i'm more concern about the reliability than cooling performance. water cooling setup is neat though. besides that, certain graphics card are only available in wc solution (Fury X & Radeon Pro Duo)
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for good tubing, it isn't purely rubber, or even rubber at all.

considering the thickness/material of my primochill, i think it'll last longer than my lifetime LOL!

took me a bit of effort to cut it, and stuff it into my compression fittings sweat.gif
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post Mar 18 2016, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 18 2016, 05:33 PM)
Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate:
http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model_...x?id=C_00002345
Tube Material : Rubber

NZXT mentions Rubber in its spec. I guess Corsair, Arctic Cooling & other AIO too cos all using the ASETEK design.
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http://www.primochill.com/product/primofle...dshed-red-copy/
plastic i guess.

then there's acrylic/hard tubing.
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post Mar 18 2016, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 18 2016, 06:08 PM)
I've read many comments on reddit and tomshardware about their corsair hydro hoses crack, which really fears me. As this is Malaysia with hot and humid temp, i'm worried that the AIO hoses might not last long.

Those with plastic/acrylic are for dedicated water cooling setup, not AIO CLC. My questions are pertaining to AIO CLC.
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oh you didn't mention specifically.

well, up to you, inspect the rubber condition more often, and it should still be fine.

 

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