The camera if compared to last year flagship still behind?
Like S6 , G4 , V10 ?
Xiaomi Mi5 Discussion, Xiaomi's new flagship
Xiaomi Mi5 Discussion, Xiaomi's new flagship
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Mar 19 2016, 10:45 PM
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The camera if compared to last year flagship still behind?
Like S6 , G4 , V10 ? |
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Mar 21 2016, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(metaloid @ Mar 19 2016, 08:26 PM) Sadly mi phones have average camera...They are using good lenses meaning Miui software prprocessing isn't as good. Software is the biggest weakness for Chinese phones. after i watch the video... my comments... Mi5 highlights in the video is too much while S7 is ust nice but color is a bit dull... maybe the Auto white balance already push off by software control... in carpark frame rate of Mi5 isnt that good... in super market again u can see the color of S7 is not as vibrant as Mi5 and the texture and details is processed to make your face look fairer and smooth... at the lake side once again the S7 push the brightness control to brighter, while Mi5 is having a darker image... at the zoom in clearly S7 is using software image sharpening at least they do it... but Mi5 looks horrible coz it is soft... while during photo S7 shows a lot of details but i see some sharpening effect... but this time Mi5 camera color isnt that vibrant... camera good or not, is all individual preference... but i agree with what you said... their processing software isnt that capable... but with the money i'm ok with the performance... This post has been edited by michael9413: Mar 21 2016, 10:39 AM |
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Mar 21 2016, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(tongaz86 @ Mar 19 2016, 10:45 PM) I owned s6 and g4 for a short while. I can say g4 camera is the best among them. I dono about v10from the videos that I posted about mi5, I can say mi5 still lose in camera performance compare to s6 and g4 QUOTE(michael9413 @ Mar 21 2016, 10:37 AM) after i watch the video... my comments... yes, agree, its all about the s/w and algorithm they useMi5 highlights in the video is too much while S7 is ust nice but color is a bit dull... maybe the Auto white balance already push off by software control... in carpark frame rate of Mi5 isnt that good... in super market again u can see the color of S7 is not as vibrant as Mi5 and the texture and details is processed to make your face look fairer and smooth... at the lake side once again the S7 push the brightness control to brighter, while Mi5 is having a darker image... at the zoom in clearly S7 is using software image sharpening at least they do it... but Mi5 looks horrible coz it is soft... while during photo S7 shows a lot of details but i see some sharpening effect... but this time Mi5 camera color isnt that vibrant... camera good or not, is all individual preference... but i agree with what you said... their processing software isnt that capable... but with the money i'm ok with the performance... see ipon, camera not very powderful, but their algorithm make the picture come out win everyone. but now we android have s7 |
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Mar 21 2016, 01:42 PM
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with s6 and g4 dropping price, it is hard to choose the mi5 over them
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Mar 21 2016, 01:50 PM
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Yes, did not realise G4 only 1.6k, from 2.2k++
SD808 is good enough, replaceable battery, dual SIM with sd card is very tempting |
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Mar 21 2016, 02:00 PM
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So if want camera performance last year flagship is still better than Mi5.
But maybe future update will boost the camera performance? Since it's just software side right? |
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Mar 21 2016, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Mar 21 2016, 10:37 AM) after i watch the video... my comments... how abt using 3rd party cam apps e.g. Camera MX?Mi5 highlights in the video is too much while S7 is ust nice but color is a bit dull... maybe the Auto white balance already push off by software control... in carpark frame rate of Mi5 isnt that good... in super market again u can see the color of S7 is not as vibrant as Mi5 and the texture and details is processed to make your face look fairer and smooth... at the lake side once again the S7 push the brightness control to brighter, while Mi5 is having a darker image... at the zoom in clearly S7 is using software image sharpening at least they do it... but Mi5 looks horrible coz it is soft... while during photo S7 shows a lot of details but i see some sharpening effect... but this time Mi5 camera color isnt that vibrant... camera good or not, is all individual preference... but i agree with what you said... their processing software isnt that capable... but with the money i'm ok with the performance... i m using OnePlus One and i got different when using Camera MX. |
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Mar 21 2016, 02:08 PM
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well hard to say... individual preference... some one want good updates in software and also support...
Last year flagship may not enjoy it anymore... but Mi5 is just this year chipset.. so maybe enjoy more developer to generate its ROM... but again... see what you want, actually not only SD808, MTK X10 also enough for normal use... all is user choice of purchase... for me, this few years i always buy phones around RM1000... maybe Mi5 is the phone which i purchase more than that figure since 3 yrs ago... midrange phone is good enough for all ppl actually but some ppl like to show off with flagship phones... |
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Mar 21 2016, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(demio121 @ Mar 21 2016, 02:07 PM) how abt using 3rd party cam apps e.g. Camera MX? i'm not sure as i always stick to stock apps... i m using OnePlus One and i got different when using Camera MX. it might help, but you must remember the logarithm of the camera is still same... that is factory flashed, cos all manufacturer got their own say on some settings of the camera.. maybe will some customization on colors and others settings it feels better... again... i don compare with custom ROM or apps... i always do my comparison base on stock apps... fair to all ppl coz not all ppl will download and customize the phone... This post has been edited by michael9413: Mar 21 2016, 02:12 PM |
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Mar 21 2016, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(tongaz86 @ Mar 21 2016, 02:00 PM) So if want camera performance last year flagship is still better than Mi5. 1.yea. if ur primary preference is camera only and u don't care much about other functionalitiesBut maybe future update will boost the camera performance? Since it's just software side right? 2. most probably, but not much and not so soon. QUOTE(demio121 @ Mar 21 2016, 02:07 PM) how abt using 3rd party cam apps e.g. Camera MX? maybe but not necessary will be better. i m using OnePlus One and i got different when using Camera MX. |
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Mar 21 2016, 05:55 PM
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What price do you think we will be able to get it for in 1 month?
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Mar 21 2016, 05:57 PM
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i think now at some place where u can get it, it might be as high as RM1700 for 3G/32GB ROM
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Mar 21 2016, 06:03 PM
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in one month it may be reduced to 1599 kot.. then others try to be competitive and place price at 1550...
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Mar 21 2016, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(Charless8 @ Mar 21 2016, 05:55 PM) Depend...if release here or some news confirm release here sure price drop very much. Can get more low if close to launch. Just look at RN3 Pro now many ap set starting to drop price since April will be official launch. |
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Mar 21 2016, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Mar 21 2016, 01:50 PM) Yes, did not realise G4 only 1.6k, from 2.2k++ Read the g4 ,most of the ppl suffer from mobo burn after update to mm, most of the user jump ship after thatSD808 is good enough, replaceable battery, dual SIM with sd card is very tempting The battery life of g4 is below average,and i dont think plastic body of g4 look tempting compared to pretty body of mi5 Sd808 doesnt perform as well if compare to sd820 This post has been edited by nickchk89: Mar 21 2016, 07:11 PM |
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Mar 21 2016, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Mar 19 2016, 12:41 PM) mi5 vs s7edge , can mi5 really compete LOL watched, summary:watch the video yourself and decide. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Video: Front Cam: S7: better exposure, tiny bit less sharp, tiny bit less details (fur coat), more neutral white balance (WB) (whiter), not dropped frames in low light, audio ok Mi5: Overexposed, slightly sharper, slightly more details (fur coat), warmer WB (yellower), dropped frames in low light, audio muffled when recorded beside S7 but fine on its own (reason unknown) Main Cam: S7: narrower angle, slightly brighter, less details (grass, tree), warmer WB, more wind noise, OIS works video stable, in supermarket WB neutral, max zoom less blurry, low light less saturated & less detailed, flash brighter + whiter WB, Mi5: wider angle, slightly darker, more details (grass, tree), more neutral WB, less wind noise, OIS doesn't seem to be working video shakier than S7, in supermarket WB warmer, max zoom more blurry, low light more saturated & more detailed, flash darker + warmer WB Stills: Main Cam: S7: 4:3, much more detailed, usually more neutral WB, low light warmer WB overexposed (vase) tiny bit less noise, Captain Phasma WB neutral less noise less detail more exposed less sharp, Flash WB warm sharper more detailed less noise Mi5: 16:9, loss of details, usually warm WB, low light more neutral WB correct exposure (vase) tiny bit more noise, seem to have focusing issues (hanging patung, tree), Captain Phasma WB warm more noise more detail less exposed more sharp, Flash WB more neutral less sharp less detail more noise Front Cam: S7: WB neutral, less detailed, wider angle, less noise, less sharp Mi5: WB warm, more detailed, narrower angle, more noise, shaper on noise processing: more processing = less details generally you want more detail, but that might or might not come with more noise, it is up to each person's preference on where to strike the balance Go watch for yourself to decide This post has been edited by Tsukiyomi001: Mar 22 2016, 01:33 AM |
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Mar 21 2016, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Mar 21 2016, 07:11 PM) Read the g4 ,most of the ppl suffer from mobo burn after update to mm, most of the user jump ship after that LG has confirmed about the bootloop issue caused by loose connector. Since it's a hardware issue, I guess better to get a different phone. The battery life of g4 is below average,and i dont think plastic body of g4 look tempting compared to pretty body of mi5 Sd808 doesnt perform as well if compare to sd820 |
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Mar 21 2016, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(Tsukiyomi001 @ Mar 21 2016, 08:13 PM) watched, summary: thanks for yours hardwork to convert video to words Video: Front Cam: S7: better exposure, tiny bit less sharp, tiny bit less details (fur coat), more neutral white balance (WB) (whiter), not dropped frames in low light, audio ok Mi5: Overexposed, slightly sharper, slightly more details (fur coat), warmer WB (yellower), dropped frames in low light, audio muffled when recorded beside S7 but fine on its own (reason unknown) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « but i will still suggest ppl watch themself to decide. haha becuz some ppl dont care what is exposure , wb, noise, theyy just wanna see the picture and how it FEELS lol This post has been edited by deadravel: Mar 21 2016, 11:15 PM |
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Mar 22 2016, 01:38 AM
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QUOTE(deadravel @ Mar 21 2016, 11:14 PM) thanks for yours hardwork to convert video to words agree, have to watch for oneself to decide, my notes are only supplementarybut i will still suggest ppl watch themself to decide. haha becuz some ppl dont care what is exposure , wb, noise, theyy just wanna see the picture and how it FEELS lol my conclusion: S7:Mi5 = 6:4, 6 times out of 10 I think S7 results are better. one thing to note is that Mi5 main cam 1080p recording is 15Mbps, lower than S7, yet produces more detail (unzoomed). Xiaomi's 1080p vid recording has always been lower bitrate than others, my Mi4c is also recording at 15Mbps. |
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Mar 22 2016, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Tsukiyomi001 @ Mar 21 2016, 08:13 PM) watched, summary: BTW i feel that comparing a 4:3 and 16:9 isnt that fair... the user should put both at the same 4:3 ratio to compare... and the native sensor i think is 4:3 instead of 16:9...» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Stills: Main Cam: S7: 4:3, much more detailed, usually more neutral WB, low light warmer WB overexposed (vase) tiny bit less noise, Captain Phasma WB neutral less noise less detail more exposed less sharp, Flash WB warm sharper more detailed less noise Mi5: 16:9, loss of details, usually warm WB, low light more neutral WB correct exposure (vase) tiny bit more noise, seem to have focusing issues (hanging patung, tree), Captain Phasma WB warm more noise more detail less exposed more sharp, Flash WB more neutral less sharp less detail more noise » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « but i do agree that Mi5 lose to S7 in stills quality.. This post has been edited by michael9413: Mar 22 2016, 09:10 AM |
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