Woah RM5? including shipping? Damn thats cheap even if it breaks! LOL

Can i have the link? Thanks

I searched a bit on taobao, don't read chinese so I'm entirely dependent on chrome's auto translate From what I can tell them RM5-6 double wall glasses aren't original Bodum, they're not even advertised as Bodum, just double walled glasses. The Bodum advertised ones are a bit more expensive roughly 17RMB and higher but still half the price of what you'd get here. Maybe @luvox can give more details.

I'm tempted to get several as well

Rm5 is old price d, 1 year back. The cheapest is around rm7. Not include shipment fees to malaysia. I use sea freight, it is volumetric rate, consider negligible for small item. Cheap one doesnt come with boxes, consider factory rejected items due to unnotice small defect, unless ur eyes go very close to the glass. Original bodum printing at bottom. There is more expensive available come with ori box, price still way cheaper than local price

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This post has been edited by luvox: Jul 12 2016, 08:42 AM

Nice finding there sort like reject shop selling reject cloth .... i wont mind having a reject cup as long as it doesn't cut any of my lips while i take a sip ...

Breville BES870 is a not a bad starting coffee machine for those who wants conveniences and space saving with just a simple press of a button and not having to worries if the grinder are good enough for the machine. Basically everything is made for specific single manufacturer but don expect it would be better then those commercial grinders and espresso machine.

This post has been edited by d33pbluez: Jul 12 2016, 11:38 AM

Wow, i was going to ask how's Breville BES870 at the price of RM3k. Anyway with RM3k max, any other good machines out there?

Oscar

really? i can't seems to find Oscar for 3k... in penang or online

Edited my comment: didnt realize the propose machine doesnt come with steam wand....my bad
It is very unlikely you can get any decent machine with 3K now....if you talking about 3 years back...maybe you can get one but with current economy and all those taxes.... i doubt unless you keep looking for secondhand ones.... or you can try press machine

La Pavoni Professional Espresso Machine with Base

This you can get close to you budget

New Breville BES870 cost only 3K + 300 only....

Breville BES870 Barista Express Espresso Machine

This post has been edited by d33pbluez: Jul 12 2016, 04:46 PM

I like the BES870 because of the integrated grinder. Save space + I drink more espresso based drinks than others, so no need for separate grinder.

You already had your answer when you ask the question earlier

The first that you said without steam wand... but i do a bit research, it seems it got wand and auto steamer too.... thanks.


Anyone used this before?

Nop.... Earlier post i recommend you this with E61 commercial groupe head ... but i had edited to La Pavoni Professional Espresso Machine with Base before you reply....

Quick Mill Carola Espresso Machine

Neh, I haven't used any of those machine before. Just a recommendation according to your budget on italian machine (We all know it is made in china) instead of those regular cheap coffee machine recommended by those electrical shop like sheng heng and harvey norman...

Haha I certainly had my answer in terms of price and convenience, but I guess I was asking more in terms of reliability, consistency, taste. I have not used Breville or drink anything made with Breville, so asking to see if anyone has good/bad reviews on it. Appreciate your thoughts though

Hahaha Same i don't know how to read chinese too!! consider me banana! LOL hence i ask for link!

Interesting and Thanks @luvox for your kindness in providing the link!!

in terms or reliability and consistency! what is your expected ROI? 3 years i think Breville will do fine (If I'm not mistaken Harvey norman do extended warranty for it too? not too sure) but don't expect it to last as long other separate "entry/Prosumer" machines if it last then its a BONUS!!

Taste wise its very subjective but trust me you will definitely get better taste of espresso than starbucks at a cheaper price!! Heck even aeropress is better!

There are a few used machines around do scout mudah.com as well i posted it before and i suppose its already snapped up!!

or Get a Aeropress or V60 at a budget if you just drink long black. or if u want hands on manual Espresso maker i have a ROK for sale!!

Agree with Dan430 mention below. A machine can last you very very long time provided if you do regular checkup and maintenance for it (Yes, this run on electric, plastic and rubber and soon this thing going to give way, nothing last forever). You need to send to shop to do it unless you know what your doing.

Regarding of the taste, it depend from ppl to ppl, of course we are not the expert here and we cant really know what exactly the real taste suppose to look like and it will taste good or bad (unless the coffee taste is exceptionally bad like too sour and too bitter until you cant stand the taste)

i believe don have to worry for machine like breville BES870 since it had build in grinders so i guess it is preset to the taste of the machine brew capability to produce good coffee unless you grinder and machine are separated.

But seriously, if your planning to only drink long back, why not get Aeripress or V60 for a budget and less hassle on the full machine maintenance.

This post has been edited by d33pbluez: Jul 13 2016, 08:20 AM

Harvey Norman sells this Breville for RM3.6k, even with promo RM2,999 but need to purchase warranty forRM500/600 for 4 years.

Other place only cost RM3k 1 year warranty.... big big difference.

Looking at La Pavoni Professional Espresso Machine with Base by d33pbluez.. which i think will last but i read it needs high maintenance.. hahhaa

Thanks for all your reply guys. I don't drink long black so much; prefer milk based but trying to learn to drink black coffee as well. I guess it's obvious from my questions that I don't know what I'm doing yet, so would prefer to send in for services instead of DIY.

Thanks bro kuluuluk for the info on the warranty. Something to think about.

They r one year plus old items. Bodum

I had my eyes on the BES870 when it won Best New Product—Coffee or Tea Preparation and Serving Equipment (Consumer) back in SCAA 2013.
However, after consulting with a few experts in the field from Coffex and Dankoff, they did not recommend it for long term usage -> its always a bad idea to bundle the grinder with the espresso machine itself as the heat generated will not be good for the beans. I took their advice and went for a more recommended BES920, the Dual Boiler.

Been using it for 2 years now, it’s quite reliable, hasn’t let me down yet. Quality of the drink wise from the Breville machine, it tastes excellent, provided you use only fresh beans, fresh milk, and make sure you maintain your machine properly (flush/backflush thing), cleaning the machine, change filter (if required).

If you’re not much of a heavy drinker like me, I weight and put only sufficient beans into the grinder each time, and clear out any remaining beans/grinds every time, I think, the heat from the espresso machine should not affect the beans much, since you will only be using fresh beans, and not leaving the beans there overtime to be heated and reheated by the espresso machine.