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post Apr 24 2016, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(kyone @ Apr 24 2016, 04:01 PM)
For those who works in sg and have company's medical card, buy insurance in msia / sg, which is better
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Depends on how frequent you are in SG

Whether in the long run you'll be staying in Singapore more or Malaysia.

Then decide to take the policy in that country
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post Apr 24 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 24 2016, 04:05 PM)
It can turn out to be a misleading statement.

You cannot claim double for medical card.
You claim either one, and only from 2, if one of them is insufficient.
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Yeap thanks for adding on the statement that one card must have insufficient amount then only you can claim balance from the other cars

E.g 100k claim

Company medical card limit 30k. Personal card 100k

Claim 30k on company first, then the balance 70k pay first and file a claim under personal card.

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post Apr 24 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Apr 24 2016, 04:09 PM)
i plan to take great eastern insurance....
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biggrin.gif ok, why not go engage an agent then
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post Apr 24 2016, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(flintbatu @ Apr 24 2016, 07:43 PM)
Hi everyone,

Need some clarifications on deductible. I'm having a medical card with a 50k annual limit. Would like to buy a second MC from AXA SmartOptimum plan with a 20k deductible as it offers a 50% discount on premium. Not sure about how it works? Based on the following scenario, per calendar year

Hospitalization 1 used RM10k
Hospitalisation 2 used RM15k

Can I claim for the 5k which is above the deductible (if I don't choose to utilize my first Medical Card). Secondly any subsequent hospitalization, can I claim from the AXA?

For the outpatient kidney dialysis or cancer treatment, does it also subject to the 20k deductible too.

Thank you in advance all sifus.
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You can only claim from 1 medical card at any point of time, you can't separate medical bill. You can only claim from the 2nd medical card should you reach above the annual limit.

In this case,

You will have to claim from the 50k medical card limit first for the 1st and 2nd hospitalization, as your per hospitalization each doesn't exceed the 50k limit, you can't utilize the 2nd card which has 20k deductible

e.g
50k limit, you've used up 30k previously for claim purpose, now another surgery cost 35k, you can claim the 20k left from your first medical card then the 15k from the 2nd card.

However if your limit on the first card is left 15k, same scenario, you can claim the remaining 15k limit, pay 5k from your own pocket, and then balance 15k claim on the 2nd card. As your 2nd card requires at least 20k to be paid as deductible first.
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post Apr 24 2016, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(flintbatu @ Apr 24 2016, 08:30 PM)
Thank you so much to Keith for the kind explanation. Really appreciate it.

It seems that 'deductible' has also its limitations too. How can I enhance my protection as I'm really worry that my annual limit is on the lower side given the rising cost of health care. I'm currently 47 with a toddler and a wife as dependants.

Life coverage is only RM80k currently with lifetime limit of 1 million and coinsurance of RM300. Any suggestion would really be appreciated.

Thank you everyone!
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I can help to perform a policy review and see how you can go about it.
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post Apr 25 2016, 07:43 AM

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QUOTE(sinned.dennis @ Apr 25 2016, 03:09 AM)
Hey all. I'm new to insurance and would like to look for a plan that leans more on Critical Illness/Disability coverage and Medical. Tried looking around the web but couldn't find any website that would show side by side comparisons with premiums calculated. Do you have any recommendations?
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Hi

Premium is very subjective. The lower your premium goes there will be a drawback in how long ur policy will last especially if it's an investment link policy.

Of course I can guide you through by doing a financial health check to see how much you need to cover
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post Apr 26 2016, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 26 2016, 09:12 AM)
Good question. There's no best medical card or best plan for someone.
So long your liking favors how the insurance company packages their plan.

Some would love an annual limit of RM1.5million from XYZ company.
Some would prefer ABC company even if it's RM2million lifetime limit.

On a personal level, what is your opinion on someone undergoing treatments that would cost nearly RM1million?
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laugh.gif since you said like this, why share "P" medical card only ?

The reason for a high annual limit now is so that the medical card will be able to handle the inflating medical cost in the future. The treatment at current time might not exceed RM1 mil. But in the next 30 - 40 years, maybe.

The insurance company are giving a good benefit right now in terms of giving such a high limit. Yet consumers complain why so high. Whereas, previously, it's just up to RM200k annual limit, they keep asking why so low.

There is no perfect line to please everyone as consumers will continue to want the best product in the market.

So instead of "best medical card", get the 1 that fits your budget instead.
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post Apr 26 2016, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Apr 26 2016, 09:51 AM)
Quick question usually when signing up for insurance will there be a client's copy of what he/she has signed? unsure.gif

Also does insurance cover treatment in other countries?
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Your policy book is the receipt, meaning 2 weeks later after you sign up, the agent will deliver you the policy.

Insurance will cover treatment done in other countries depending on your insurance package.

Some insurance policy you have to pay first and claim later.

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post Apr 26 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 26 2016, 10:07 AM)
any existing old aia agent can advise and summarize this please? it is an old policy since year 1994. payment semi-annual rm400.00, i.e. per year rm800.

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Hi,

I don't think I can advise you on this without reading the policy book as I wasn't an agent back in 1994. Will be good to meet up and read that book for you.
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post Apr 26 2016, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 26 2016, 10:11 AM)
Ohh jeez. I didn't know that post would make you guys feel so intimidated.
I’m just merely sharing a medical card that I’m familiar with.  sweat.gif

So, I'd like to ask you to suggest me a new medical card in the market..
Now I get your question lol
But seriously, you guys gotta calm down tho  sweat.gif
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biggrin.gif was calm then and still calm right now.
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post Apr 26 2016, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 26 2016, 11:53 AM)
Haha!  blush.gif
Could you also share a new medical card that in the market
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sorry le I'm not into product selling. I'm more of a consultant. You should ask those that like to compare the products but end of the day become undecided.
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post Apr 27 2016, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 27 2016, 04:37 PM)
My current Prudential insurance plan:

Monthly premium: RM670
Room & Board: RM400/day
Hospitalisation income: RM200/day
Annual limit: RM150,000
Lifetime limit: RM1.5mil
Death/critical illness benefit: RM350,000
Medical cover until age 80
Death benefit until age 100

Updated Prudential plan: [/u]

Monthly premium: RM870
Room & Board: RM200/day
Hospitalisation income: RM200/day
Annual limit: None
Lifetime limit: RM1.5mil
Death/TPD benefit: RM350,000
Critical illness benefit: RM350,000
Medical cover until age 100
Death benefit until age 100

Proposed AIA Plan[U]

Monthly premium: RM800
Room & Board: RM150/day
Hospitalisation income: RM250/day
Annual limit: RM1.0mil
Lifetime limit: None
Death/TPD benefit: RM400,000
Critical illness benefit: RM350,000
Medical cover until age 100
Death benefit until age 100

Seriously considering the AIA option. Any thoughts?
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I can't comment much without first establishing what coverage you need based on your financial standing. Unless u can provide me some info

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post Apr 27 2016, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 27 2016, 04:40 PM)
Updated Prudential vs new AIA
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Sorry just saw ur update post,

"I can't comment much without first establishing what coverage you need based on your financial standing. Unless u can provide me some info"

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post Apr 27 2016, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Apr 27 2016, 04:43 PM)
The coverage indicated above is fine. So am comparing the benefits, T&C's and investment returns, etc.
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smile.gif returns will be quite subjective, as I'm not the agent proposing the plan so I can't really determine on that, it will affect you in terms of how long your policy will last.
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QUOTE(Ryannate @ Apr 27 2016, 07:33 PM)
My opinion only on medical protection based on your post.
1. Room and board is too low, ain't enough to cover single room in most famous private hospital. What's the maximum   
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2. Panel hospital?
3. Hospitalisation income, what's their requirement to claim that?
4. How many days can a doctor visit per day?
5. Can you asked them to quote separately just medical for comparison, then CI+Life in another quote .
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1. Should be fine as the room and board will increase 100% in 10 year time
2. AIA panel hospital coverage is wide enough
3. As long as you're required to stay in the hospital per day.
4. 2 times per day until 240 days. Additional 2 more time if ICU
5. Doesn't make sense to separate the quote. The cost incur is higher. This idea doesn't make sense.
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post Apr 27 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ Apr 27 2016, 09:18 PM)
1. 10 yr increase 100%, if being claimed before 10 yrs, does it still apply?
2. Too brief.. sounds like saying something means nothing
3. So is that means start counting from 1st day patient admitted? Is in claimable for private n government hospital?
5. There r different. Absolutely doesnt make sense to u because customer request.
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1. Increases by 20% every 2 years up to maximum 100% and until 10 years. In between if got claim then reset and restart on that %. E.g 40% to 60% in between the 2 year got claim then reset to 40% and have to wait 2 years again to reach 60%.
2. I don't think the client has to worry as we will reveal to him our panel.
3. As long as there is a physician visit then it will be deducted. Otherwise if no doctor visit then there is no deduction. Applies to both
5. Nope you're wrong. Separating the quote would incur higher cost due to extra administrative fees (Rm5-6) per month x 2 if you have 2 separately policies. Meaning you are double charged in administration for the same benefit. Either your premium is higher or your cash value is lesser.

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post Apr 27 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ Apr 27 2016, 10:18 PM)
1. If the r&b increase, will the insurance charges also increase?
2. Must reveal before purchased any.
5. No need to argue on this..just quote it and let customer decide. Admin fees are charged based on %.
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1. No increase
2. Like I said he's the client.
5. Wrong again. It's not on %, I've already put the cost involved in the last post which is rm5-6 per month. If it's on %, everyone's policy would have lapsed by now.
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post Apr 28 2016, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ Apr 28 2016, 08:15 AM)
Can a person purchase fire insurance on behalf? example is tenant call the insurance provider and wanna buy for the owner. Can ar? Or must be the owner who contact the insurance provider?
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Owner of the property must buy for his own property. Not the tenant
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post Apr 28 2016, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 28 2016, 09:58 AM)
Wow, you still haven't answered my question on the medical cards.
Someone sounds like a hypocrite and it's fine when you yourself tryna market your own products? hmm.gif
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Since you insist to ask me to recommend a medical card, I feel that AIA medical card is quite good.

Don't agree ? Get another opinion since you're asking for a recommendation. Hope it answers ur question.

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post Apr 28 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 28 2016, 03:58 PM)
the careline waited so long.. at the end, give up..
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ohmy.gif how long ?

I normally call in also 2 min can edi

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