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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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lifebalance
post Apr 7 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(terubotzu08 @ Apr 7 2016, 07:54 PM)
Dear insurance agent,

Is it normal for insurance agent to ask if we have any existing insurance when we want to sign-up for a new policy? What is the purpose of asking this?

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Just to find out how much you are insured and whether you're trying to launder money with insurance. They can check with Liam actually but depends on how truthful are you
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post Apr 8 2016, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(terubotzu08 @ Apr 8 2016, 02:09 PM)
Thanks for the clarification. Not aware it is in proposal form. Just wondering why....
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No worries if this is your first time applying insurance. It's a standard guideline set by the industry.
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post Apr 8 2016, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(terubotzu08 @ Apr 8 2016, 02:29 PM)
need some advise...currently i have old prudential policy, pru med major. i feel my medical card annual limit and lifetime limit is very little. if not mistaken annual= 75k, lifetime=225k.

i'm considering upgrade to prudential pru value med. but i find great eastern smart extender give me high annual limit, 990k (SE90k) compared to prudential 1mil.

do u think it is good i cancel my prudential and get great eastern?
any other option available?

thanks.
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Provided your health is still good then it's worth to go for the upgrade. Please do keep your old medical card for 4 months while waiting for the waiting period for the new medical card as well

AIA a med regular provides rm1.1Mil annual limit with no lifetime limit and no co insurance. smile.gif

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post Apr 8 2016, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(zest168 @ Apr 8 2016, 03:49 PM)
If I am not mistaken a Portfolio Withdrawal is a right of all the insurance companies to withdraw a product in event of adverse claims experience. All they need to do is to seek approval from BNM and justify why they want to withdraw the whole portfolio. Once approved, then that product will no longer be available for new business or renewals. So far, I have not seen one over the past 25 years, but never know what the future looks like. Hence, everybody should not worry about this Clause because it applies to all insurers.

What you need to worry is whether you have sufficient Life and Health insurance coverage in event of unforeseen circumstances.
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You might be surprised that certain agent will use this to confuse their client for their own insurance sales advantage as most consumer are not knowledgeable about insurance product.
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post Apr 8 2016, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(leonard73 @ Apr 8 2016, 05:12 PM)
Particularly I am kind of concern of this clause, and I found not many insurance company without this clause.

I found out only Pacific insurance, Lon-Pac insurance and Prudential insurance without this clause.

Another clause I found out only Pacific and Lon-Pac have guaranteed renewable.
Last one is " insurance company does not have the right to amend or alter the policy benefits of policy holder........

That clause only I found out in Pacific, Lon-Pac and Prudential.

Although some mentioned it did not happens for the past 25 years but I still feel it is better to protect myself first then pointless arguing when it happened.

Example of mine.
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Good to have such clauses for the policy holder. The insurance company will bear all the risk until the day they claim until bankrupt as they can't withdraw the product. The reason such clause exist is to protect the insurance company in the event of loophole such as an abuse on the insurance product offered in terms of claims or underwriting during that time was too lenient.
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post Apr 8 2016, 06:41 PM

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Not a big issue. I dont see why this issue needs to be magnified. Unless it's an intention to pull down other life companies aside from company P who is providing such guarantee. Then let the consumer decide.

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post Apr 8 2016, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ayrehn @ Apr 8 2016, 07:48 PM)
It's definitely not an intention to bring down other companies but as a client, I want to be sure that a certain company will stick with me until the end of my life.

I can't be having my life in the hands of companies that are protecting me as and when they like.

This is very important to a client and i think everyone should know about. Terms & Conditions are one helluva danger especially relating to my own life.
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Okay whatever float your boat.
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post Apr 11 2016, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Apr 11 2016, 12:42 PM)
AIA is still the best eh? Top in terms of what? like plan and etc.? just want to know more before I make a  decision..
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Top in overall =)
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post Apr 11 2016, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(zest168 @ Apr 11 2016, 02:56 PM)
So many criteria to decide insurance plans:

1. Product Feature & Coverage
2. Premium rate
3. Claims Service
4. Agent's Professionalism
5. Insurance Company Financial Strength
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Agreed
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post Apr 11 2016, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(ExpZero @ Apr 11 2016, 03:27 PM)
GE do not have Portfolio Withdrawal Clause.
Total Agency distribution Channel First year Premium market share
1)GE
2)Pru
3)AIA
Most of the plan are very similar, you can't get the best out of all. Just get one that among the best 3 choices. Example:
Let's say.
Company A
1. Product Feature & Coverage, number 1
2. Premium rate, number 3
3. Claims Service, number 2
4. Agent's Professionalism, number 1
5. Insurance Company Financial Strength, number 3

Better than

1. Product Feature & Coverage, number 1
2. Premium rate, number 1
3. Claims Service, number 1
4. Agent's Professionalism, number 6
5. Insurance Company Financial Strength, number 1
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GE has the withdrawal clause. I've checked
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post Apr 11 2016, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(theFIREman @ Apr 11 2016, 06:22 PM)
As of 27 Jan 2016, GE had removed the said clause. This applies for new and existing policy holders.
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ic, any publication or letter saying this ?
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post Apr 13 2016, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(foohoa @ Apr 13 2016, 01:18 PM)
last time AIA airasia offer me 1 ppl RM38, i forgot how much the maximun claim
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100 is abit tight but do able
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Apr 14 2016, 12:57 AM)
Dear,

Do show such low premium quotation, If it's true, I would think of buying it too.

CHeers
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Sounds like a familiar sentence I heard before.

Cheers
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post Apr 14 2016, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 14 2016, 10:38 AM)
Interested to see what RM100 can bring us!  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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yeap possible if you're still young, definitely not when you're much more older e.g age 40 & above. console.gif
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post Apr 14 2016, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 14 2016, 12:58 PM)
Dear,

I would love to see the quotation too, mind explain in detail.
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QUOTE(Madgeniusfigo @ Apr 14 2016, 01:52 PM)
Dear,

So,
For RM100 package for both

1. It's a stand alone medical card only?

2. How young are you saying? do give a more detailed example.

3. Does it covers 36types of illness?

4. I am still young. laugh.gif  laugh.gif
Do provide a quotation, for age 28 and 29 couple.

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Refer to http://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...Med_Regular.pdf

Standalone medical card.
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post Apr 14 2016, 04:46 PM

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Just to clarify for the Withdrawal Portfolio Condition clause mentioned few post earlier. AIA had already remove that clause on 1st Dec 2015.

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QUOTE(NightShadow @ Apr 14 2016, 05:39 PM)
Sorry newbie here, late to the insurance scene and was recommended to U for Life by a relative. https://uforlife.com.my/

Anyone here got any skills in analysing the policies based on their own experience? smile.gif
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It's a term coverage whereby the premium increases as you age. No investment value. If want long term lower cost ownership then get a investment link plan.
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post Apr 14 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(NightShadow @ Apr 14 2016, 05:59 PM)
sorry newb question, not familiar with all the jargon yet. what's an investment link plan?
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An investment link plan is whereby the money you contribute to the insurance policy is spent to pay off the cost of insurance and then the balance is used to purchase units in investment funds. Similar to unit trust.

E g you pay rm200 per month and you're age 20
Your cost of insurance for the policy is only rm50. The excess rm150 is spent to buy investment funds to get you returns for your future cost of insurance. E.g when you get older your cost of insurance increase due to higher risk to die or contract diseases.

As oppose to you buy uforlife and pay Rm50 per month. Sure it's cheaper now but you don't have any investment to pay off your increasing cost of insurance in the future. Which is why term policy is always cheaper at first but gets more expensive later on.

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post Apr 14 2016, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(NightShadow @ Apr 14 2016, 06:12 PM)
makes total sense. thanks for the writeup!
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post Apr 14 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 14 2016, 09:52 PM)
Even with ILP, the cost of insurance also increase with age.
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yeap, as explained in the following post that the investment returns will be used to pay off future higher cost of insurance.

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