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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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post Apr 28 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 28 2016, 04:01 PM)
>10 mins, during lunch hr..
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hmm.gif ok ok, if can't get, get the agent
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post Apr 29 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Apr 29 2016, 09:30 AM)
long time ago the agent already gone to another world..

anyway, have this sorted out at branch.. thanks everyone..
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biggrin.gif change to an agent still living in this world tongue.gif
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post Apr 29 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 29 2016, 02:13 PM)
Oh wells.
I guess you're not gonna answer my question.
So much for a self proclaimed consultant  whistling.gif
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You must be pretty ignorant to read what I replied to you 1 page back to bother to read. Anyways let's not waste my time with your unprofessional intimidation coming from someone who is not genuine to ask for consultation but instead to cause trouble.

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post Apr 30 2016, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(daranzone @ Apr 30 2016, 01:11 PM)
Dear Everyone

What is the best insurance for 2016 for personal
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Better to get an insurance agent to understand your financial needs and recommend you the best plan. The best plan is the one that is tailored to suit your requirement.
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post Apr 30 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(daranzone @ Apr 30 2016, 02:58 PM)
i was looking for to medical in term of hospital , some say choose great eastern some say maa insurance , i just comparing and see which is good
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Should do a comparison with AIA as well
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post May 2 2016, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ May 1 2016, 09:21 AM)
Wonder staff or spouse of staff of insurance company entitled for better deal for getting the insurance from the employing  insurance company?
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I got a friend working directly with the insurance company, on top of their own staff coverage, they have an option to purchase a group policy that they can continue paying after leaving the company but the benefits are watered down, it's basically a group term life coverage normally available with any company out there.
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post May 2 2016, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(tuanlam417 @ May 2 2016, 01:06 AM)
hey can i ask something, is there policy loan from insurance in malaysia? whats the interest rate like?
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Investment linked policy you can't take a loan from it, once you sell the unit considered you can't get it back at that price you've bought way earlier.

Traditional policy however allows you to take a loan from the policy as traditional policy guarantees you the return however because you need to use the amount earlier, they will charge you the interest rate of 7-8% for the amount taken.
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post May 2 2016, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(tuanlam417 @ May 2 2016, 04:35 PM)
7% ! thats high, i presume interest is daily basis? whereas repayment is ad hoc basis unlike bank right?
thanks for the info!  notworthy.gif
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Yeap interest is on daily rest. It's almost like taking a loan with the insurance company
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post May 2 2016, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ May 2 2016, 09:04 PM)
Just some random questions that pop up from my head, I'm currently having a medical insurance with AIA and I would like to ask:

1. If I was diagnosis with mild dengue that would not need me to be hospitalized but still required me to pay for my med, can I claim using my medical card?

2. If I accidentally fell and break my wrist and still no hospitalization required but required to put a plaster on. Will my insurance be able to pay for it?

3. This happens to one of my colleague, her wrist was diagnosis with crack and experience pain regularly and slowly becoming more serious due to long hour of sitting in front of computer and using the mouse which puts a lot of stress on her wrist. There are few remedies, one is through surgery and another is acupuncture. Her doctor recommended her acupuncture but the full treatment was more than 10k. She tried approaching her insurance company but they refuse her claim. So I was wondering does apply to AIA as well?
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1. Need to be hospitalized and treat for outpatient dengue treatment to claim. This applies to all medical card unless or otherwise stated differently.

2. Let me be clear. You need to be admitted into the hospital to claim anything with your medical card.

3. Get the doctor to provide a recommendation letter for acupuncture and file the claim to AIA.
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post May 3 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 09:16 AM)
I've updated my comparison table as attached.

Seems like AIA has an advantage over Prudential and Allianz.

Thoughts / comments please?
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rclxms.gif wah you actually spent time to build this up. Thought it's an agent job tongue.gif
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post May 3 2016, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ May 3 2016, 10:15 AM)
Seems like investment not attractive at all.
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The investment figure shouldn't be emphasized so much as it's a projection.
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post May 3 2016, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ May 3 2016, 10:56 AM)
When talking about projected returns, I always focus on conservative or realistic figures. Anyway this is medical / life insurance not really an investment vehicle for me. The returns are just to cover a portion of the monthly premiums.

I have other real investments where the returns are far better.
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rclxms.gif don't be misled by agents trying to confuse you.
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post May 3 2016, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ May 3 2016, 11:12 AM)
1. Not claimable unless there is an admission. Prior to the admission the resulting blood test results must show evidence that there is high fever. Otherwise the request for admission would be rejected.

2. You may get treated under the day surgery and it is claimable.

3. Acupuncture is not claimable as it falls under alternative treatment. Otherwise we may see claims for bomoh, sinsei and whatnot.

One of the terms and condition for the medical card is that it must be a certified Doctor and after the treatment, the patient gets well, if not better.
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Acupuncture and physiotherapy can claim under AIA




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post May 3 2016, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Vincentccw @ May 2 2016, 09:11 PM)
Thanks for the reply, for 3 question, my colleague did try that but the claim was rejected, so I hope this won't happens to AIA.  smile.gif
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Just to add on, by admitting to the hospital meaning you need to be in confinement

"Confinement" means admission in a Hospital as an In-Patient for a minimum period of six (6) hours
upon the recommendation of a Physician of an Insured Person and continuously stays in the
Hospital before his discharge.
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post May 3 2016, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 3 2016, 12:40 PM)
What is policy loan?
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Means cashing out your money from your policy as a loan. Later have to repay
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post May 4 2016, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(vez @ May 4 2016, 03:59 PM)
i have heard many colleage mentioned GE Smart Extender give lifetime no limit

what is the pros and cons?
i read from here https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...t-extender.html

why the patient cannot claim full 60k from the SE60K plan when the deducible is 60k annual?
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Their medical card have to claim 60k from the Original Medical Card before it can claim from the Extender.

Thus your lifetime limit is limited to 10x of the original medical card limit.
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post May 4 2016, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(vez @ May 4 2016, 11:02 PM)
thanks for the info

i notice there is other plan as well like 120K plan
meaning that if it is SE120K plan, have to reach 120k from original medical card only can claim from extender?

e.g.?: 130k claim in a year, 120k from original, 10k from SE120k plan? am i right?

then why peoples said it is lifetime no limit  biggrin.gif
after that finish all the allocate limit from original medical card, then all claim from extender?
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Nope, from what i understand, the Extender only kicks in after you pay up 60k or 120k deductible meaning down the road when your medical limit is fully utilised. You have to probably fork out the 60k to 120k cash first then the rest paid by the extender.

Not sure how it works though you might want to read the policy medical card benefit.
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QUOTE(vez @ May 4 2016, 11:08 PM)
is ok, just want to understand more here

so extender just additional plan for more coverage in summary... because i keep on getting info from friend or colleague their plan is unlimited life time, i was wondering how it works

thanks anyway smile.gif
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No problem, as for AIA, the annual limit will not be restricted based on deductible, the medical card + booster will equal to 1.1m with no life time limit.
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post May 5 2016, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 5 2016, 08:54 AM)
Put it this way... if it has a deductible amount, in this case 60k (60k per policy year), so every year, as long as the customer bear the first 60k (whether with another medical card, or with your own money), the hospital bill willl be claimable under SE60k, and not subject to lifetime limit.

Example:

1st year hospital bill... 300k... SE60k will cover 240k
2nd year hospital bill... 3mill... cover 2,940,000
etc... etc...

No lifetime limit lo.

My point is trying to tell you, yes it's true it is no lifetime limit, BUT not as straight-forward la. i'm not supporting any insurance companies, just laying out the facts.
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I would definitely find ridiculous if I need to fork out 60k for a surgery later on in life though especially how many people who pays 2400 premium per year or earn a yearly wage of 30k per annum, say a surgery cost 70k, can they afford to pay upfront 60k and another 10k for example to be paid by the insurance company?

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post May 5 2016, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Ryannate @ May 5 2016, 09:03 AM)
That's kind of complicated. Why don't just simply get a medical card that can simply throw into any hospitals and let the card settle all bills, you walk out from hospital after you being treated and not even bother to call agents for help or with any cash or with another medical card
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That is why a medical card without deductible or lifetime limit is the best choice. Why go through so much headache just to save a couple of hundred to trade off for your long term well being and worries ?

Your insurance policy should be one that should leave all your worries to the insurance company rather than you after buying one and continue to worry.

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