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 Battle of the +/- rm7k TVs, + Discussion on Sharp UE630X

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post Mar 30 2016, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 30 2016, 10:34 AM)
of course. most std 1080p pc's like mine cannot do 2160p. can do max 1440p... i tried it.

that is for the mp4 files from that site, not .encm.
i also tried playing one .encm and one mp4 file on my android player.

.encm is an unrecognized format for both the native player and kodi player.

the mp4 files, can play, no problem.

but... those 4k mp4 files from the link are not very good either.

those videos are watered down, i think - the force awakens trailer does not come out better than the full bdmv i have.

for better 4k demo videos, better go get from torrents.

"timescapes" and "ses 4 k test transmission" are better ones, i tested them long time ago.
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Pls pm your source for 4k bdmv. It's getting hard to find good quality files nowadays smile.gif
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post Apr 17 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Apr 15 2016, 11:17 PM)
RM7.5k for an IPS panel and it's a mediocre one somemore. Sony dropped the ball on this one.
X90/93D uses VA panels. They're generally pretty good, but expect it to be overpriced. Also if you play games, look elsewhere. RTings and HDTVTest got 53ms with it. doh.gif
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X8500c is on sale at desa home theatre warehouse sale for 6k + 65 inch. That's a pretty good tv but hdr is basic not ultra hd premium compliant.
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post Apr 18 2016, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 17 2016, 11:07 PM)
pretty good. but isnt that active 3d is cumbersome to maintain the battery and its not so natural ?
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I'm not into 3d coz I feel it is feels fake most of the time and it causes fatigue. 4k with hdr is like looking out of the window. That feels more 3d rather than the old tech which is why 3d is so yesterday and manufacturers are starting to drop it.
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post May 4 2016, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 4 2016, 02:31 AM)
i am not so much into streaming from pc, etc. as i prefer to do local playback for larger files which i tend to collect and keep.

smaller files, fabulous quasar can do direct on the tv itself, don't even need a box! biggrin.gif

but it's a useful feature.

perhaps dual band gigabit will also boost overall wifi strength and coverage over say 50 ft?
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5 Ghz usually has lesser coverage area compared to 2.4Ghz, but throughput is much better and it is rated for higher bandwidth.


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post May 4 2016, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ May 4 2016, 07:19 PM)
yes, i understand that 5ghz as a higher frequency is stronger than 2.4 but with higher losses, it's only good for short distances.

question is how short is short... 20, 30, 50, 100ft? at what point does it negate the use of 5ghz? depends on the router specs, i would think.

"throughput" - this is interesting,  meaning it can "push" more bits and bytes per sec? if so, that will surely be good.

will need to read up and test at next opportunity.
something to do with...

.. operating frequency efficiency
.. router specs
.. tv networking specs

i suppose! biggrin.gif

will be good if you can test a 35-40gb bdmv m2ts video, see if the tv and router can take it. thanks.

my android box can take everything except this size of bdmv's when it comes to streaming wifi 2.4ghz from pc.
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How far 5ghz can reach will depend on your router but I would think that 50ft is too far based on the test results I've seen online. 20 ft radius will be more common.
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post Jul 4 2017, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jun 25 2017, 12:26 PM)
Finally sold it off.. IMO, LG has the best OLED panels. Need to re-evaluate newer models though and yes, price's still on the high side.
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I think Sony & Panasonic are using LG panels, so the panels are the same but the processing will be different. Last year the Panasonic Oled TV was rated better than LG's own Oled TVs.
I think Sony's Oled TV will be much better than LG's. LG units have a high defect rate as well.
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 4 2017, 03:24 PM)
Hmm.. I've read about the defect rate.. Partly why most are holding out from purchasing, giving manufacturers time to iron out major kinks. Personally, not willing to shell out a decent sum, only for the TV to drop dead just after the warranty period.  smile.gif
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Yup, the defect rate is worrying especially when spending such a big amount on a TV. The best is to get extended 5 year 1 to 1 exchange for such big purchases but then it adds-on about 10-15% of the cost. I guess I will be waiting it out for a few more years smile.gif
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post Jul 12 2017, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 11 2017, 08:33 PM)
LG's defect rate the highest because they sell the most OLED TVs. Significantly more than both Panasonic and Sony combined so far, so that's an unfair comparison.

Both Sony and Panasonic employs different tone mapping algorithms, on paper the Sony performs the "worse" because it clips highlights and details. But in reality for most eyes, majoritywill perceive Sony as the best because it appears "brighter" and "punchier".
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Now that you pointed it out, I realize that my statement about the defect is not reasonable. But the reason I actually mentioned that is because OLED TVs defect rates seem to be much higher than the LCD TVs in general and LG being the major seller of OLED TVs inadvertently gets the blame. In a way I believe its justified because such high levels of defect shows that LG has poor QC but maybe this is more of an issue with the technology itself. Anyway, since for me this will be a very big purchase, I am really not keen to risk it with any OLED until the technology matures. But damn, its really hard to resist the temptation!

Read the same thing in Rtings about the Sony OLEDs yesterday, quite disappointing really and they are charging a premium over LG for a worse PQ. Will probably take your advice (in the other thread) to wait till 2018 and maybe get slightly cheaper prices too.
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post Jul 12 2017, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 12 2017, 04:45 PM)
OLEDs are not easy to manufacture. Recently, LG has made improvements to their manufacturing process for OLED panels. Models made after April 2017 are expected to have some of the new improvements implemented, at least that's what I'm reading from Korean news and forums. There are of course no clear cut proof to this though.

Anyways, I went from an E6 last year, sold it this year for a C7. Wouldn't have gone with LG again if I weren't confident with them. While my panel is not perfect due to a slight bit of vignetting (a common issue that most people perceive it as a "defect"), I understand that OLED isn't perfect yet.
The best LCDs aren't even perfect anyways, I mean I've seen a Z9D with 4 dead LED zones in a showroom that not even the demonstrator saw until I pointed it out... so, you know.. : mega_shok.gif

Everyone expects next year to be the "tick" year for LG's next OLED panel. So we'll see how it goes. I'm here ready to sell my C7 for a C8 or whatever they're call gonna call it.
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Yes, I'm glad LG didn't give up on OLEDs like Samsung did due to the difficult manufacturing process. I really hope they improve and make it more reliable. Also, it will be great if there are a couple of more manufacturers for OLED other than LG to make it more competitive.

Wow, you plan to upgrade again? That's hardcore biggrin.gif I have much shallower pockets so I need the TV to survive for at least 5 years if not more. Did you lose much when you sold the E6?
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post Jul 12 2017, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jul 12 2017, 05:11 PM)
I believe Sharp will be entering the market for OLED soon?

It's a sad bug of upgraditis, it's a silly rabbit hole to be honest. On one hand, I'm secretly expecting HDMI 2.1 to put an end to all the issues HDMI 2.0 is having as well as having that all important variable refresh rate support... but the logical thinking is that, HDMI 2.1 will have its own host of problems as well.

Didn't lose anything when selling the E6 actually. Bought E6 last year at 23k, then sold it for 22k a month+ ago, then bought C7 for 20k. Actually earn 1k lol sweat.gif
Since they are all using the same panel, the same chipset, the base PQ is the same. It's just the little refinements here and there (the ABL being the most important one for me) that makes the C7 better.
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That's good news, Sharp needs to up its game again with new owners injecting money now.

Yeah, it may take a few years to iron out the issues as HDMI 2.1 is a big upgrade from 2.0. I also hope the HDCP issues don't happen again with new protection that makes our TVs obsolete within a couple of years.

That's very nice to make a profit from it and get the latest better model thumbup.gif


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post Feb 12 2018, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Feb 12 2018, 10:39 AM)
RM4099 for 60inUE630 is good price.

By da way, my UE630 has a funny habit. When i try to switch it off using the remote, it will turn on itself again seconds later! happens so many times.

anybody know if this is a software issue or defect?
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Probably due to HDMI-CEC. Other items (AVR, Box, Disc Player) are allowed to "on" & "off" the tv). Happens on my Samsung tv from time to time.
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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Feb 14 2018, 11:30 AM)
thanks for the feedback. I only use the normal remote (for the back, up, down, left, right and select buttons) and a wireless mouse and keyboard.

Should i turn the HDMI-CEC on or off? the TV also came wif another media remote, bluetooth connection. should I disconnect that?
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If it works well, then should leave it on otherwise just disable the power-on/off part.
I don't have this tv so I will guide you based on my experience with my Samsung tv but the menu should be more or less similar.
Go into the System settings and look for HDMI CEC / Anynet+ or something similar (Panasonic call it viera link & Sony call it bravia sync). Look for allow power-on/off and disable it (off). You should also do the same on the Android TV settings - look for the same HDMI CEC). The do the same in your player settings.

If you kept HDMI-CEC on but disable power on/off. You will be able to control volume etc but it will not prompt other devices to on or off. This should solve your issue.
If you feel adventurous and want to explore, try different settings and find out what is causing your tv to restart. You can also remove the hdmi cable of different players that you have (one at a time) to see what difference it makes. Basically you are trying to remove HDMI-CEC conflicts within your devices because there is probably 1 device which is switching on your tv because that device is still active.

In my HT setup, when I switch on the power socket, the Nvidia Shield boots up then switches on the TV and AVR. When I switch off my Nvidia Shield, it switches off my TV and AVR. And the remote/controller can control the volume of the AVR which controls all volume. When it works well, HDMI-CEC is great. But when it doesn't then it gets messy.


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