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post Dec 18 2015, 04:39 PM, updated 10y ago

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Wondering if eating just chicken thigh and eggs for protein is better and cheaper than buying pp.
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post Dec 18 2015, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(sagethesausage @ Dec 18 2015, 04:39 PM)
Wondering if eating just chicken thigh and eggs for protein is better and cheaper than buying pp.
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Yes real food is cheaper and better cause it contains vitamins, fat, etc.
Whey protein is very convenient when i cant eat that much..

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post Dec 18 2015, 04:48 PM

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you cant have one without the other... PP helps to bulk faster but you can't stop eating the right foods.
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QUOTE(y3ivan @ Dec 18 2015, 08:48 AM)
you cant have one without the other... PP helps to bulk faster but you can't stop eating the right foods.
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You don't need supplements.
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post Dec 19 2015, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(sagethesausage @ Dec 18 2015, 04:39 PM)
Wondering if eating just chicken thigh and eggs for protein is better and cheaper than buying pp.
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Always go for real food bro. But I fail at that sweat.gif
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post Dec 19 2015, 03:30 PM

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Real food best comes with nutrients all the calories to bulk.
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post Dec 19 2015, 09:24 PM

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you should understand why it's called protein powder at first place. it's just supplementation for your protein needs
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post Dec 27 2015, 10:49 PM

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i usually damn lazy to make dinner, so everything fruit and vege + whey protein thru night wink.gif
not good but im too lazy.
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post Jan 22 2016, 07:15 PM

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To answer your question, yes, real food is cheaper. Btw, if you do the math, you'll find that lean chicken breast gives better protein economy than eggs (grams of protein per ringgit). Milk is cheap protein source in other countries, but not so here.

PP is infinitely more convenient than chicken or eggs, and that's why it's still popular.
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post Jan 28 2016, 07:01 PM

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Ihmo,
I think whey protein is cheap per serving, baru RM3++...
Give me a sample of food around that price that contained 25g protein.... (can drink when get up + post workout. Convenient mah)

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post Jan 29 2016, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 28 2016, 07:01 PM)
Ihmo,
I think whey protein is cheap per serving, baru RM3++...
Give me a sample of food around that price that contained 25g protein.... (can drink when get up + post workout. Convenient mah)
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Eggs... Can drink raw also if you buy pasteurised version
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post Jan 29 2016, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(sagethesausage @ Jan 29 2016, 12:03 AM)
Eggs... Can drink raw also if you buy pasteurised version
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post Jan 29 2016, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 28 2016, 07:01 PM)
Ihmo,
I think whey protein is cheap per serving, baru RM3++...
Give me a sample of food around that price that contained 25g protein.... (can drink when get up + post workout. Convenient mah)
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100g of chicken breast at AEON costs RM1.99. A slightly better quality one from Cold Storage goes between RM2.39 to RM2.55. That's 24g-27g of protein depending on the quality you get. You could get even cheaper from Tesco or wet market, but quality is almost like trying to hit jackpot, much easier though. If you buy your ingredients by bulk, real food is cheaper every time. I've done the math before, it's in a notepad at home. By now the price would be outdated I guess but even if you recalculate, you'll still find them cheaper. Eggs are better of course if you're bulking. They're not so cheap though if you get rid of the yolk.

IMO PP is only better if you either don't like cooking, don't like to prep your food or during emergencies when you're in a hurry. Personally, I can't stand the taste of PP. Tried a few, so far I haven't found a single PP that I could take 3 scoops. 200g of chicken is so much easier to down. To each their own, of course.
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post Jan 29 2016, 02:42 PM

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I usually roast marinated chicken breasts that I bought and put them in frozen. RM10 about 4-6 piece. RM20 for the whole week. When want to eat just defrost and microwave it and mix with boiled broccoli and other vege, fresh tomatoes and cucumber or stir fry with coconut oil.

Don't throw the York away..there's myth about egg and dietary cholesterol...you can buy kampong eggs or free range eggs from Tesco...gobbled down 6 or more eggs per day.
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post Jan 29 2016, 02:44 PM

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whey protein more cheaper.. calculate base on RM per serving.
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post Jan 29 2016, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(mred02 @ Jan 29 2016, 02:44 PM)
whey protein more cheaper.. calculate base on RM per serving.
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Your math fail or you've never done any shopping before. wink.gif
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post Jan 29 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(mred02 @ Jan 29 2016, 02:44 PM)
whey protein more cheaper.. calculate base on RM per serving.
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post Jan 29 2016, 07:56 PM

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sry guys.. my math sux.. (rarely go shopping groceries + cook)
listen to sifus as:
real food > whey protein
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post Jan 30 2016, 11:23 AM

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Based on ON Gold Whey 5lbs (70 servings) for approximately RM220 which gives you 24g protein per serving. So it's around RM3 for 24g of protein.

The only food I know that gives you more than 24g of protein for RM3 is eggs. One large egg (50g) gives you around 6g of protein and it costs like 40 cents perhaps (higher side) ?
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 30 2016, 11:23 AM)
Based on ON Gold Whey 5lbs (70 servings) for approximately RM220 which gives you 24g protein per serving. So it's around RM3 for 24g of protein.

The only food I know that gives you more than 24g of protein for RM3 is eggs. One large egg (50g) gives you around 6g of protein and it costs like 40 cents perhaps (higher side) ?
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And the egg comes with other good nutrients too rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Jan 30 2016, 11:23 AM)
Based on ON Gold Whey 5lbs (70 servings) for approximately RM220 which gives you 24g protein per serving. So it's around RM3 for 24g of protein.

The only food I know that gives you more than 24g of protein for RM3 is eggs. One large egg (50g) gives you around 6g of protein and it costs like 40 cents perhaps (higher side) ?
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peanut butter.
aroundy RM11 / for the roughly 450gm jar of 14 servings.
each serving has 8gm protein...so 24gm protein is basically RM2.40.
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post Feb 1 2016, 12:19 PM

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and if you all want to stay on topic.. its cheaper to bulk with real food cause real food have more calories..

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post Feb 1 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 31 2016, 05:23 PM)
peanut butter.
aroundy RM11 / for the roughly 450gm jar of 14 servings.
each serving has 8gm protein...so 24gm protein is basically RM2.40.
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correct, however not the best choice if you're on a cut. sad.gif 1 serving = close to 200 cals i think due to the high fat content.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 31 2016, 05:23 PM)
peanut butter.
aroundy RM11 / for the roughly 450gm jar of 14 servings.
each serving has 8gm protein...so 24gm protein is basically RM2.40.
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Thanks! How could I forget about that since I eat peanut butter everyday tongue.gif

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and if you all want to stay on topic.. its cheaper to bulk with real food cause real food have more calories..
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Yeah that's true!

QUOTE(axtray @ Feb 1 2016, 01:07 PM)
correct, however not the best choice if you're on a cut.  sad.gif  1 serving = close to 200 cals i think due to the high fat content.
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That's true. I'm cutting now so whey protein offers the most protein per calorie.
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post Feb 1 2016, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 1 2016, 01:25 PM)
Thanks! How could I forget about that since I eat peanut butter everyday tongue.gif
Yeah that's true!
That's true. I'm cutting now so whey protein offers the most protein per calorie.
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Wonder how you cut on it. I rather get my 25g protein from chicken breast/fish/some meat when cutting cause that fast absorbing light whey drink just makes me hungry again in 30mins. Cannot tahan.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Feb 1 2016, 02:56 PM)
Wonder how you cut on it. I rather get my 25g protein from chicken breast/fish/some meat when cutting cause that fast absorbing light whey drink just makes me hungry again in 30mins. Cannot tahan.
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It's actually to fill up my macro requirement for the day, that is 120g of protein without going overboard with the calories.
I still eat my chicken, fish, eggs, etc smile.gif

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post Feb 1 2016, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 1 2016, 03:50 PM)
It's actually to fill up my macro requirement for the day, that is 120g of protein without going overboard with the calories.
I still eat my chicken, fish, eggs, etc smile.gif
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You actually don't need 120g of protein, unless your bodyweight is 120kg. Check the other thread here for more info.
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post Feb 1 2016, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(sagethesausage @ Feb 1 2016, 05:37 PM)
You actually don't need 120g of protein, unless your bodyweight is 120kg. Check the other thread here for more info.
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dude, its 1 gram per "pound" of lean body mass. no kg.


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post Feb 1 2016, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(axtray @ Feb 1 2016, 05:44 PM)
dude, its 1 gram per "pound" of lean body mass. no kg.
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Nope, 1g per kg, read this

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3809244
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QUOTE(sagethesausage @ Feb 1 2016, 06:04 PM)
Nope, 1g per kg, read this

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3809244
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hm, anyone tried this? or most still going by the proven and tested 1 gram per pound of bodyweight (or lean body mass)? lol



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i thought got diff schools of thought?
some say 0.5gm / kg enough for maintenance up to 0.8gm etc.

anyway, depending what food u eat...
protein powder can be cheaper, but obviously not as filling.
remember when u cook also need gas, oil, veggies, and dunno what else u feel like throwing in unless u want a bland tasting meal tongue.gif
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Hmm then the article is kinda conflicting with those who are following Leangains Intermittent Fasting (and had great result with it).

As for me, i'm happy with my 0.8 - 1 gram per "pound" of lean body mass. to others, i'd suggest you stay consistent with your diet and you'll do just fine. if you're not recovering fast enough, experiment by increasing the protein intake.


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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 1 2016, 03:50 PM)
It's actually to fill up my macro requirement for the day, that is 120g of protein without going overboard with the calories.
I still eat my chicken, fish, eggs, etc smile.gif
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Currently cutting @ 1900 cals. I eat all food and max out on water but still hungry as fuck all the time and satiety issues.... like I'm always hungry T.T.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Feb 1 2016, 09:52 PM)
Currently cutting @ 1900 cals. I eat all food and max out on water but still hungry as fuck all the time and satiety issues.... like I'm always hungry T.T.
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Try increasing veg consumption and foods high on the satiety index (e.g. boiled potatoes).
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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Feb 28 2016, 01:06 AM)
Try increasing veg consumption and foods high on the satiety index (e.g. boiled potatoes).
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Eat fats.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 28 2016, 01:15 AM)
Eat fats.
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On the same topic of satiety promoting foods, fats (especially bakery products with plenty of fats and sugar) don't seem to work as well as potatoes, fish, and fibrous fruits like orange, and of course, vegetables.

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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Feb 27 2016, 05:06 PM)
Try increasing veg consumption and foods high on the satiety index (e.g. boiled potatoes).
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