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dasecret
post Jan 13 2016, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 12 2016, 11:00 PM)
Average IRR during 2015 was 6.7%
Average 12-months rolling return during 2015 was 11.4%
Peak was 17.9%
Trough was 8.5%

Now u know how bad the past few days were rolleyes.gif
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Sigh... really depressing...
As at 31 Dec 2015 my IRR was 7.71%, today left 5.79% only cry.gif
And the worse part is, I didn't top up at all....
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post Jan 14 2016, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 14 2016, 05:09 PM)
Yes. You're right. They never mentioned in b&w but you are buying and selling at RM1/unit. You tell me how is that not capital protected?

If is not why do you think the non-bumi quota is always sold out? If is not rm1/unit, you think got people want to put?

Anyway I feel ASX FP is a FD on steroid. One should have enough money in something safe FD/ASX/bond which can generate enough passive income for one's monthly expenses.
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I hope this is the last time I address this remark, but I doubt it

The buying and selling at RM1/unit is to make people who are adverse of losing money to go into this eventhough it's a pure equity fund.
If any of this people bother to read the master prospectus
http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/pdf/produk/mast..._prospectus.pdf

and the various fund factsheets
http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/pdf/produk/ASB/...0331PHS-ASB.pdf

It is clearly stated that • ASB is a fixed price fund and it is not a capital guaranteed fund under the Guidelines

So please, do not ever equate ASX funds as capital guaranteed investments such as FDs anymore. It's not even guaranteed by the government of Malaysia such as bank rakyat FDs or SSPN savings. If it follows the normal SC guidelines, it would have a risk rating of 8 like Kenanga Growth Fund

As to it being always fully subscribed, that's where the national interest is, they have to have products like this to make sure Msia share market doesn't swing crazily up and down during times like this.

Key question is - Do you want to be part of that, the black box method where you don't know how much your RM1 per unit is worth, it could be RM0.80 now or RM1.20 now. By putting 100% of your money in that, is the same as putting 100% of your money in Kenanga Growth Fund; which is not advisable

I made my choice, I want to know how much my investment is worth, even if it means sometimes it's less than my capital. I also want to put some of my money in non-Malaysia assets to diverify better. My 7.7% IRR is much lower risk than putting the money in ASX; it's 70EQ:30FI

I know, you think your investment is risk free like FD.... we can continue to agree to disagree because even PNB say it is not risk free like FD
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post Jan 15 2016, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 14 2016, 06:12 PM)
Thank you Dasecret. This is the first time that I have read the factsheet which says this.
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U r welcome biggrin.gif

Thing is, most people investing into ASx funds do not read the fact sheets, accounts and prospectus like how people investing in normal unit trust

do you know that the accounts for ASx funds do not include balance sheet? For ASB and ASW, they don't even list all the counters they invest in, only top 20. Obviously they don't show you what is the market value of the investments too...

That's what I meant by black box approach sweat.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 14 2016, 07:02 PM)
OT : The fellas there are quite entertaining.

Assuming they out perform the board rate b 0.5%, and it requires moving their capital every quarter. Per 100k deposits, they make an extra RM500 pa., or RM125/move.

Nett of expenses, I'm really wondering what the point is.
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I actually make my mum do it.... asked her to put longer duration like 1 year or 18 months so she doesn't have to do it often. The difference between promo and board rate is around 1%, so each move saves RM1k for a year, ok ma, if rm300k can go for a regional holiday trip liao. She's a retiree in a small town so it's not too bad
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post Jan 19 2016, 02:33 PM

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So quiet one.....

How come no one posted this yet?
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=6721

Everyone finish bullets already ke?
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post Jan 19 2016, 02:54 PM

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I have a suggestion for the excel file update:

For PRS purchases, we do it mainly because of tax relief. Can we have a transaction type that could cater for the tax relief benefit so get a better picture of the IRR including the tax relief?

at the moment I do it manually by killing the excel formula for the acquired units and reflect the transaction amount net of tax relief.

Should we ask our excel master to add a transaction type to reflect the tax relief? thumbup.gif
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post Jan 19 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 19 2016, 03:15 PM)
saman itu polar bear lo tongue.gif
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U know I don't know how to summon right... sifu pls do the necessary icon_question.gif
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post Jan 20 2016, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 20 2016, 03:17 PM)
To break the monotony of buy/dont buy/top up/redeem/rebalance/fear/greed/promo/no promo/how come i didnt get discunted sales charge ....

Got this info today, somebody elses analysis / marketing  : BIMB-Arabesque i Global Dividend Fund 1

Key features of the Fund

1) Earn income annually with a target income of 6% per annum in addition to capital growth.
2) Available in both RM and USD
3) Feeder fund to Arabesque Q 3.17 Systematic (“target fund”). The Fund can maintain a maximum 30% in Shariah-compliant liquid assets.
4) The target fund invests in Shariah-complaint global equities, and a maximum of 49% in Shariah-compliant liquid assets. Under exceptional or abnormal circumstance and for a short period of time, the target fund can be invested up to 100% in Shariah-compliant liquid assets.
5) The target fund’s portfolio consists of up to 100 global equities.
6) Top ranking fund against benchmark and global Shariah funds. A comparison of several global equity funds in Malaysia as compared to the target fund.

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Fund strategy

In the target fund, a security will only be invested in only if it passes three levels of filter;

1) Suitability Analysis (filter from 77,000 global equities to 1,000 global equities)
2) Financial Analysis (filter to 300 global equities)
3) Momentum Analysis (filter to 100 global equities which will be invested by the target fund)

Some of the areas considered during the filtration process are sustainability performance based on ESG score, business activities screening for prohibited activities under Shariah law, financial statement analysis, risk/return profile, amongst others.

The investment portfolio will also go through daily optimization to ensure that invested securities meet the filtration criteria. This is done using Arabesque’s adaptive risk technology,  part of the their risk management strategy.
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Looks good.
Question - the performance largely correlate with the other funds and index albeit overperforming the rest; but in Oct-Dec, this fund seemed to have 'defy gravity' and continue to do well when others r not. What contributes to that?
- The chart is in MYR terms right? If in USD terms can compare with index at least? or with other USD funds available in say Singapore?

Petty question - how does one purchase USD funds in Malaysia? Would the fund house provide a daily exchange rate if I pay in RM? Or must pay USD by bank transfer in which I would lose out on bank selling rate?

Thanks thumbup.gif
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post Jan 22 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 22 2016, 02:51 PM)
Boring day eh?... for a little bit of "Tahi lembu jantan".

i made 6 out of 10 transaction into these TOP sales fund last week.
hmm.gif did i have so much money to move the ranking  blush.gif or there are alot of people doing that?  thumbup.gif

Titatn and India are in top 5....
China and ponzi 2.0  sad.gif ...wei...i did moves some it them too leh rolleyes.gif
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notworthy.gif Boss must be either
- Very influential here and everyone follow your footsteps
- Boss buy damn a lot

Because the other alternative would be
- FSM got no business shakehead.gif
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post Jan 22 2016, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 22 2016, 05:30 PM)
ponzi in general will collapse sooner or later mah
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I like that analogy. Funny how ponzi 2 is collapsing faster than ponzi 1Attached Image
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post Jan 24 2016, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 24 2016, 12:10 PM)
Since I posted my last graph last night, I have received quite a few messages asking for statistics, analysis and advice. While I do appreciate the you value my feedback, I cannot reply to everyone. The same with my earlier post with graphs etc, but this time with even more messages than before.

While I try to contribute to the forum the best I can, I cannot be expected to give timely personalized advice, education and hand holding. Please don't expect pin point accuracy, complete guidelines and an entire portfolio management strategy. I do this professionally for a living. To me that's work, and I'm compensated for it. What I contribute here is what I do in my free time, what I can comment about is what I see.

I really cannot understand and do not appreciate questions/statements like :
1. how can you guarantee the statistics are correct ?
2. can you honestly say that XXX strategy is better than what I'm doing now ?
3. you are wrong, xxx way of doing it is better, that why I do it.
4. ive used similar services to what your company offers, and they cheated me. but can you still help me anyway ?
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If you have a 6/7 figure portfolio, I suspect that it is a significant part of your wealth. Please be mindful of what you're doing. I believe the contributors here are not trying to f@ck you over by giving you their RM0.02... We have nothing to gain/lose from it. Also we have no idea what your background, experience and financial statues is, much less your plan, needs and strategy.

The free advice I can give today is
1. market timing based on discounted FSM SC is not a strategy.
2. if you're asking for an evaluation, be ready to hear the bad news.
3. i'm not a mind reader or a fortune teller. if you find either let me know.

sekian, terima kasih.  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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The thread suddenly so active over the weekend thanks to the graphs rclxms.gif

Maybe for some transparency purposes, indicate the price tag? Else everyone would expect free consultation; or people would not contact you in fear that you would charge them a bomb. Just not sure if it violate any of the Lowyat rules

But what I completely agree is, not everyone should DIY. One might benefit substantially by engaging specialist. Unfortunately there are not many capable specialists in town, at least I've not have the honor of meeting one.

If you have been doing it for 5 years and the result is less than desirable, perhaps you should get specialist to do it instead of leaving it to fate? It's hard earned money after all, better give it to someone who does the work to you than the market crocodiles
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post Jan 24 2016, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 24 2016, 11:01 PM)
Never ask never know. Thus far I have only dealt with Alfred from FSM. I truly think he is the gold standard in his services.

Doesn't FSM design or recommend a portfolio for high value investors after assessing their risk profile? I dunno know. I am just guessing.
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I think the platinum members have that service. But platinum status is rm750,000 AUM. I'm no where near that
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post Jan 24 2016, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 24 2016, 11:24 PM)
I see. So if ordinary investors ask the CIS for their advice, would they just say please follow one of the FSM Recommmeded Portfolios, do RSP and have a long term investing horizon of 5 years and above?
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Nola, if you email them and ask for advice they will respond to your queries accordingly. But i feel that it's not too different from the articles anyway

Boss, u mean you have never asked them to take a look at your portfolio and give you some suggestions? U shd try it. It's free 😎

http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ds-Program-1494
Plat members will get quarterly review and can arrange for face to face meetings

FSM Singapore in this sense is a bit more superior. You can fill up a investment profile and give them a budget. They will propose a portfolio to you. Then you can proceed or request for amendments
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post Jan 24 2016, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 24 2016, 11:35 PM)
Vanguard, are you in the same category as dasecret ?? RM30K loss no feeling... biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Oi! Touchwood. My losses tak sampai 5 digit la. Not even 4 digit actually 😅
But I'm expecting a call from my mum after she look at this month's statement 🙈
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post Jan 25 2016, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 25 2016, 10:46 AM)
Possible. But isn't that going to decrease correlation coefficient?
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Ok. I'm not finance expert. But ur example of having 2 funds investing in the same region, it would have close to 1 correlation coefficient and therefore it does nothing to make your portfolio more diversified.
Typically it's recommended for you to choose 1 fund for that particular segment, usually take the one with good performance n relatively low volatility. If u put 2 instead of 1, chances are, 1 would underperform compared to the other. So question is, why not just put all to the best one in the region
At least that's what I observe the sifu here r doing la
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 24 2016, 11:27 PM)
Value lost that much coz portfolio imbalance haha. Well I think high value are those hitting 7 figure ones. I personally wont put 7 figure into it, real estate maybe

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7 figure capital injection would mean RM3.3million worth of properties assuming 70% LTV or RM5million for 80% LTV for commercial buildings. Real sifu. Most property speculators just rely on leveraging to call themselves millionaires

QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 24 2016, 11:55 PM)
Sorry everyone. I think I was not very clear in my early post. What I meant to say is that all my previous paper gain of RM30k has been wiped out. Therefore my current ROI is about +0.67%.
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Oops, actually u were clear. I didn't read properly. But my paper gain wipe out is not anywhere near that amount also 😅
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post Jan 25 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 25 2016, 01:02 PM)
Lukenn sorry just want to ask regarding these investment consultants in FSM. Are they just normal fund advisors like those we get in premium banking who keeps asking you to buy funds or they are even more professional than that, like roughly can tell u when market is not that optimistic in near future. Those in premium banking sometimes you feel like a fund salesman only
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No offense. This question is like asking Texas chicken boss if he thinks KFC is nice. No matter what Texas chicken boss say also die 😜
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post Jan 25 2016, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 25 2016, 02:40 PM)
So far maybank and hsbc avtime u walk in they will say need to discuss haha. Their relationship manager and wealth manager. So far i declined. But u get nice coffee and so on. Now malu d decline so many times have to avoid them
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Why should you be malu ler? If for me, I'll ask for their recommendation and tell them I'll think about it. If the recommendation is good. Buy on FSM 😉
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post Jan 25 2016, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jan 25 2016, 09:33 PM)
Yes they will.. You can walk into Maybank any time you want. Open an account, deposit money, ask about the services etc. That can be easily proven, ask me something about Maybank or Nestle and see if I can't answer you.
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😳 That has got to be one of the weirdest way to pick stock I've ever heard of. No wonder you think investment is not different from gambling. Wouldn't this method limit your choices to consumer type companies only? Even nestle can show u the door if you ask irrelevant questions. Sorry. U got me really confused
But anyway, I think this is seriously OT jor.
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post Jan 27 2016, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jan 27 2016, 03:47 PM)
as promised previously, Ill update you guys on what the Client specialist says regarding my portfolio to share with you guys. Ok upon his analysis, he said well diversified, great potential, but to him, its aggressive portfolio. Also he thinks Its overweighted in local equity, he adviced to increase global exposure and cut down on local. Also adviced to increase on Bonds. He said RSP is a great way.
ok on regional and his view on next 1 or 2 years , he said Europe and US should have good growth of single digit, Asia ex-Japan should have a better outlook compared to previous 4-5 years, Japan, maybe government will increase QE
on local Malaysia, growth maybe only moderate
Not his exact words but a summary of what I understand
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So what is your action plan considering his advice & lukenn's?

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