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 USD/MYR drop, v3

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Hansel
post Mar 29 2016, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 29 2016, 07:38 PM)
No way I am going to throw RM500k for something I am not sure. I don't even have RM500k to begin with. I was thinking more along the line of RM10k. Minimum amount for FD promo. Profit of ~RM400/transaction is good enough for me. Never use more than RM10k (principal). Any profit is reused back. So say I managed to profit RM400, so for next round I will use RM10400 instead of just RM10k. Max maybe RM15k. It might just work. But to carry around so much cash to money changer  ohmy.gif  sweat.gif
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Okay,...if you wished to risk RM10K to earn 4%, and you are satisfied with this, then okay,.. But you must be sure you can catch the levels that I mentioned,...
If you put the 10K into ASX, you can easily earn RM400 after one year,.... - NO need to learn charting, no need to watch the mkt, no need to listen to news, etc,...
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post Mar 30 2016, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Mar 30 2016, 10:57 AM)
hahaha.I always made a guess between the two, Amanah & Aus Exchange  bruce.gif
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YES, same here,.... you invest in the Australian Stock Exchange ??
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post Mar 30 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Mar 30 2016, 01:52 PM)
disagree that only usd weaken. myr is strengthening against others also notably sgd: the best deposit haven for rich malaysians brows.gif
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That's right - the SGDMYR rate is becoming re and more attractive as each day goes by,.... watching closely,...

AND : like I've always said,... in the longterm, the confidence is always with the SGD, vs the MYR,... so, stay calm,... stay your course,...just keep your EPF and some ASX in Msia. Convert the rest out,... watch the rates closely,....

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post Mar 30 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Mar 30 2016, 03:03 PM)
Simple, Malaysia is the cheapest and safest to park the money.
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Cannot agree,...the recent fiasco last year is a clear eg why this is not so,....
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post Mar 30 2016, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Mar 30 2016, 03:42 PM)
Different analyst quoting differently. Some still say by year end 4.2 level. Some quote 3.5, 3.8.  rclxub.gif To me, not sure if should buy now or wait till Aug ?  hmm.gif
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I suggest not to listen to all these 'predictions' too much,... for one, it gives me headache,... just execute any actions that you wished,...
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post Mar 30 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 30 2016, 04:13 PM)
Thats why we use a small letter x for Amanah Saham (ASx) where x is a variable (M,W2020, 1M) and not Australian Securities Exchange(ASX).  doh.gif  at this thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3857329  at least most of us do that, except maybe Hansel who used ASX in this:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry79217747
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post Mar 30 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Mar 30 2016, 04:26 PM)
as kelvin said. besides, sg gov has begun selling retail bonds to public, sign of desperation. also sg new biz startups are a record lows. sgx is one of the worst performing mkts. the cooling measures on prop are hitting developers so hard they are chewing on bones. speculators in tht market r crying. overly strong sgd hit tourism badly. but devaluing sgd will cause indo and malaysia depositors to flee as interest rates are so low. low interest rates means there is little room for the central bank to manuver when things go south. sticking with the strong sgd, orchard smaller malls are every bit as empty as our kv new ones. mrt system is hit with incident after incident. need i continue?
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LOts of pints there,.. and yeah, worth paying attention to,... however, based on historical data, there has been worse situations that the SG Gov't had to tackle, and they have come out fine,... that's SG50...

Of course, one might argue that historical data may not reflect fully on future events, but comparing against Msia, which would we rather choose to base our assets and our future on ? We have to choose somewhere,....
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post Mar 30 2016, 04:40 PM

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Can use MYR2.9200 counter rate to get 1 SGD now,....
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post Mar 30 2016, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Mar 30 2016, 07:11 PM)
nah,I don't ! haha
i'm a damn small ikan bilis/student in KL. I can hardly have a proper portfolio in the Malaysian market.
Anyway, I really like how you interpret the market and I have been following your posts closely for all the insights. Too lazy to do my research now, just enjoy absorbing all the sifu's opinions. hahaha
EXACTLY. I wanted to TT out some cash when USD was around RM3.2x and I listened to those bullshit predictions saying MYR could climb to RM2.9  vmad.gif
and now look at where i ended up.

So i come out with my conclusion which is despite all the fundamental facts, investor sentimental play rather important role. Investors look out for a safe haven to pump in money. So, I'm transferring out my cash to my SG account as well, piling up to buy funds. (faith in Msia gov too low)  sweat.gif
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I'll answer you first,... rclxms.gif a good start there you have,... I presumed you are still studying,...

If you have an account with DBS, you can start to invest into the STI ETF. You just subscribe via the ATM,... no need to open a brokerage account, no need to have a CDP Account. Start somewhere, my young friend,... REad any news that you can about SG stocks.

A good source would be The Business Times, cost you $1.20 an edition. You don't have to buy everyday,...

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post Mar 30 2016, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Mar 30 2016, 05:36 PM)
I have just done a  quick comparison for last 5 years.
Hansel if u compare the performance of the same asset class of Malaysia & Singapore of FD, KLCI-ETF vs STI-ETF, and CPF/EPF, u will find that at the end of the day,even with the gain in SGD, returns is only slightly better or at par.
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OKay,... tq for the infos,... for myself, I'm quite happy though with my basket of SG REITs and Stocks. Happy with the performance, and happy with the currency gain over the last ten years of my investing era.
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post Mar 30 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(@secret@ @ Mar 30 2016, 08:08 PM)
yeah, still studying.
i do have an account with DBS. damn, i didn't know that.
It looks like i can subscribe it over the internet. Let me look into the info and their product offering
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thanks for the tips sifu.
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I see, can be done too over the internet ?? Never tried before,... rclxms.gif good discovery there if can be so. Would think that there are some rules about being required to be in Sgp itself to be eligible to buy the ETFs,...

If you are a Malaysian by nationality, I would advise you to try opening a brokerage account and a CDP Account as soon as you are able to, and you are qualified to,... somehow, I'm getting the idea that the Gov't and the MAS are tightening down on opening of accounts by foreign nationals in Sgp...

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post Apr 4 2016, 05:17 PM

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We earn in the MYR and spend in the MYR. There will always be funds coming-in in the MYR. Stay patient when the MYR is strong. Wait for opportunities to convert. Think of the long-term view always.

When one holds a few foreign currencies sufficiently, all holes will be covered should there be forex fluctuations. But when one holds only the natural currency, ie the MYR, if the MYR weakens, one suffers.

Hence,.......do not panic, and start taking opportunities in this volatility now to balance your holdings.
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post Apr 5 2016, 01:25 PM

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Wow,.. you guys are starting to speculate,...
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post Apr 5 2016, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2016, 08:23 AM)
MYR no strength. sad.gif Told you guys.
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Depends on the timing, bro,... focus on longterm,....
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post Apr 5 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Apr 5 2016, 01:45 PM)
Money value is up and down just like roller coaster...  Once u enter these type of investment or currency change, of course u ady expect that. Just another routine for me. I ady change it at very high. And just leave it.
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Yeah,... agreed. Don't worry if it was earlier converted-over at a high,.. just hold-on to the USD or SGD and invest it. If you invest out the funds (or bullets), then you know you are continuing to earn the USD and the SGD, so no issue there.
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You will only start to feel the pain of holding a weaker foreign currency IF you are waiting to convert back due to needs to use the funds at home. If there are no such needs, and if you continue to invest the USD or SGD in their own currencies, then you will feel no pain.

After all, your natural currency is still the MYR, and you are continuing to earn in the MYR day-in and day-out. If the MYR is strong, then it is assumed that you are continuing to earn the 'stronger' currency day-in and day-out.
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I have not changed any yet,....
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post Apr 11 2016, 02:00 PM

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Find a way to invest your USD and SGD holdings,... don't just leave them in the respective FDs and continue hoping for the USD and SGD to strengthen....
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post Apr 12 2016, 02:24 PM

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Don't listen to noise, guys,....
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post Apr 16 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Apr 13 2016, 04:01 PM)
That's why never say never. There are so many things that can affect MYR movement. Anything that goes up can come down, and also goes up again. One thing I learn from Hansel, diversification.
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