hehehe anything u wan to know?

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even they open, u still have to hike another 1.5hrs minimum...
and since the road is icing, u might need to spent up to 2.5hrs

on the top of the mountains, i saw a hiker bring their own bunsen burner & coffee
seeing them drink the coffee, this is really first class enjoyment

and try the town super spicy ramen after the hike, u will appreciate it
mayb sake too

not much there...
onsen lor... this one hv to ask RC

and if u got car, can goto nearby waterfall... (in winter, frozen waterfall??)
tat one is also hiking... but abit better... 30mins? forget!!~

i go there for the autumn foliage

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seriously that place is crowded with PRC
in the morning u will see at least 10fully loaded bus

other than that, the felling there is quite relaxing
slow pace of life and enjoyable

but i cant comment on winter, i doubt u even wan to go out

This post has been edited by lucaswjk: Jun 21 2016, 04:27 PM

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feel like onsen trip
but the furano route is abit odds, waste lot of time
and u dont hv jozankei

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(alternative)
for scenic summer vacation, (summer fruit, sunflower, lavender, zoo)
you might wan to make a loop at central hokkaido
furano -> biei -> asahikawa -> hokuryu -> sapporo -> otaru
mayb u can squeeze jozankei (1/2day?) for some onsen

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with car, everything is very convenient

after 4pm the sky will like 7pm here... 4:30=>8pm
@nite, road also no street light... only cat eyes
raining and fog is also very scary

but the most scaring thing is icing road,
with or without experience it will be very dangerous

take care

i suggest u better sleepover @haneda airport
http://www.sleepinginairports.net/asia/tokyo_haneda.htm
there hv restaurant/charging area/free wifi
u dont wan to lepak at outdoor/cold place, and the trouble with police for loitering
disclaimer: never sleepover at haneda b4

also next morning @haneda, u can buy the metro pass/data sims/pocket wifi etc

This post has been edited by lucaswjk: Jun 22 2016, 05:19 PM

u know that place is not halal rite?

i been there, highly recommended... for food or strolling... either one of them is goooding
the walkway is very narrow, not for u to loitering,
in the nite itself... it is really cold
go check some of the youtube video

anyway i aldy voice my opinions, u decide yourself
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no comment on 5th trails coz i start my journey at 7th station (after the chair lift)
jfyi 5th station trail is a valid trails... u can check it here
==> http://www.furanotourism.com/HokkaidoPowde...ke_brochure.pdf

when i go the time, the mount is snowing on the day before
mean the ice started to form at 5th station, by 7th station the whole area is covered by snow (beautiful)
to tell u the truth... it is not a easy hike (icing road!!!~)
lucky the trail is well managed... they have wooden step on almost every corner (like in kk)
estimate a short hike ~1.5hrs -> 3hrs (depends on your WALKING speed and CAMERA time)

i hv mention many time, i go there for the autumn foliage
i didnt even know we are allowed to hike to the peak
glad that i decided to hike it despite im wearing my jogging shoe
on my way up i can see the opposite mountain/forest full of yellow+red leaf
the weather is nice and clear, the sky is blue...
i also saw few pieces of ice sculpture, snowman, snowduck, snow etc etc (haha child stuff)

that is not the end... the best of the best view is on the top of the mountain... stupendous

i didnt hv my external hdd now
so i hv to digg my fb album
alamak... there i also didnt post many
and the pix that i posted is all capture using PHONE

Peak, Mount Kurodake

boring?

Jozankei Dam / Hoheikyo Dam
the pix from my phone not really impressive not posting

pix from internet


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very far from where?
to be exact... it is actually in between furano and biei... an alternative route

Biei -> Furano = 35km
Biei -> Blue Pond -> Furano = 50.9km

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i think u can do it...

but u sure they hv cycling lane/route?
anything happen u might need to hitchhike back
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tips: behind blue pond got 1 dam... the scenery in autumn very nice... especially during sunset

This post has been edited by lucaswjk: Jun 24 2016, 03:19 PM

tat y u hv spent 30mins biei -> blue pond
then another 30mins blue pond -> furano
win win

u hv big family, it is actually cheaper when u evenly divide the cost
and hokkaido itself is actually more convenient with own transportation, except all those big town

my opinion, the elderly also hv more time to rest... less walking/waiting

there are many website... u just compare the price
http://www2.tocoo.jp/en
http://www.toyotarentacar.net/english/
http://nissan-rentacar.com/english/shop/hokkaido/

ps: non-peak season, no need book... many car rental hv counter at airport

This post has been edited by lucaswjk: Jun 27 2016, 06:31 PM

google translate apps support offline,
u just need to download the language pack

wow this is really good news,
initially i planned to skip osaka coz it is really troublesome to transfer from narita to hnd...

now my chance is here

thnx bro

jus check KL -> HND -> Kansai
the timing is really bad

need to overnite 1day in haneda before transit to kansai next morning



totally not worth of it

yes i did this... i also include furano winery and few other places
and by 5pm/6pm i started from biei to sounkyo
all in 1day

i able to achieve this bcoz i stay 1nite before this in furano, then checkout around 7am
and dont forget... also own transportation

my only complaint is... this 3 places very hard to find restaurant

i read the bus schedule is not fixed,
and if unlucky... u might need to wait hours

i advise u refer to tripadvisor, they hv details writeup

depend on visiting season...

preferably go at 3/4am
i saw ppl come with taxi at 5am, and asked to go back

and no ticket, it is bright color vest

this guard house, it took me sometime to find the exact location

http://www.google.com/maps/place/おさか...104-0045,+Japan

i hv no idea
someone told me they alrdy open 2am
but some tripadvisor ppl said they need to queue until 4am

mayb the time i go is super peak (in winter), tat y they open early

i miss this 😥

i mostly shop at premium outlet + duty free shop 😯

too rush
all the place is totally out of order...
waste traveling time
dont think u able to reach hakodate
u think hokkaido is very small?
at the end u only hv 8days... u sure u have enuf time??

...unless this is your plan for full day driving trips (minus enjoying the trip)
stamping all the way
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after asahikawa, u should head to sapporo -> otaru -> jozankei -> ?? hakodate -> lake toya
noboribetsu is just below chitose, u better make it on last day

pls use google maps to plan your itinerary, at least u should learn the traveling time

ok... ur plan ur decision...
seriously LEARN to plan itineray with google maps

How to Plan a Trip Itinerary Using Custom Google Maps

Some sample i create
Google Maps

u can try japanese style room, tatami type (-->sleep on the floor)
normally hotel allow you to add futon

did that...