despite my agreement with your description, I find your attempt to pigeonhole me meaningless and ridiculous. The desire for sex and food are part and parcel of human nature. Religion is not. Sex and Food are important for the survival and propagation of living things. Religion is not. Human beings NEED SEX AND FOOD to survive and continue to exist. Human beings do not need religion for anything other than spiritual comfort. To pigeonhole me but differentiating my thinking from other form of thinking that derives from religion is therefore, totally meaningless and ridiculous.

I am pretty sure your boyfriend is having sex with other girls. it is part and parcel of human nature and he is completely faultless.

sex without love is selfish
love without sex will become saturated

WaCKy-Angel a gal? got pms?

this statement i fully agree with sanook..
eat sleep sex is the same thing..
religion wealth is categories in another..

eat sleep sex.. is human nature.. we need it to survive

p/s u dun sex.. even dream will do it for u 

sanook, pls... i cant bear to read ur posts. u r saying as if not having sex in a bgr is wrong. i think there's nothing wrong with it at all. unless to say that they're married & they're not having sex. just because it is mentally unhealthy not to have sex according to ur facts, doesn't mean that a person must have sex. are u trying to say that every man who's not having sex with his gf is cheating on her?
pls do not stereotype others to ur own ugly perception. because if wot u saying is a fact, i think man are no different from animals who cant control their urge

This really got out of hand...
I do agree both sides.. they got their points straight~
BUT
Its in the eyes of the beholder
This should end here..
Let stop the arguement n help the TS pls..

P/S Sry Sanook... din mean to take wat u've said... juz i saw n lazy 2 check who wrote it...

her husband is stupid & selfish. his wife sleeping & he forced his s***t into her h**e, sure la his wife feel painful coz her h**e not wet yet. he should control himself first & aroused his wife by doing a lot of foreplay first & saying notty words. he must keep on doing it 'till her h**e is  really wet & she needs his s***t badly. then only sex intercourse starts.
ye la.... like watching xx films first. she's still young, no need to use lubricant la.. she's got her own love juice.

u got the wrong concept
jz like eating.. if u steal to eat ppl food u shud be jail..
hv sex.. steal to hav sex with the one dun giv u, u oso need to be jailed..

think broader dude

true... kamasutra teaches to treat women comfortably...

to TS if she dun let him. he shudnt be like tat.. so not gentleman..

cant satisfied his need pay money to find prostitute la.. see ur friend dare not dun wan hv sex? ahahahaha

duh... wacky angel is hard headed..

before this comment, i thought you are just young and inexperience and cheeky. but now I think you are really dumb. your cheekiness is misplaced and make you looks stupid. nobody ever mention rape here. rape involve an element of force and violence and should never be condoned. but the basic urge to engage in sexual contact with members of the opposite sex is as human as eat and sleep. we may understand and can even relate to the urge of the rapist but we do not condone violent imposition of sexual urges on others. there is a difference. you deliberately deprive your boyfriend of sex. but he is normal. he needs sex but he probably like you too much to leave you. so the next natural thing for him is to look for other outlets. there is absolutely no mention of violence. stop being stupid and immature here.

@chachachaaa,
you are being immature and silly and even stupid to think it is a stereotype. what you believe is true probably comes from Mills and Boon eternal, everlasting, heart-breaking love. I believe in love too but to go without sex for three years even though you are in a relationship with a girl is ridiculous. the question that beg to be asked, exactly what is so wrong with sex that the girl refuse to get sexually intimate so much? there must be a big problem in the relationship if it is go on for three years without sexual intimacy.

No.......
but the relationship won't last long enough.......without it.

i strongly believe it is her decision, as long as she doesn't get pregnant and be regret of it.
--> safe sex!

let say when you buy a car, do you wanna test drive it?  what happen if he/she cannot really perform?  :-)

haiya yourself. your original post comes with a totally different meaning than your current post. you are changing your tune now and what you are saying are in agreement with me now. what is there to argue. you change your tune and you still want to claim superiority by saying "simple thing like that you don;t understand"?

sex is damn important for a guy.... but sometimes, some guys after f**k, will less care for their partner coz they belief, the gurl already belongs to them

He watches porn? He does things other guys do? He wants to have sex? and you dare to believe he waited all these times for you to say "yes" ? Malaysian girls are really truly madly deeply naive. 

You make it sound as though every normal guy in a relationship out there is having sex, if not with their girlfriends, then it's behind their backs.  I seriously doubt that's the case man.

this thread..and many seeking for advice thread are very entertaining.

It is funny because when wacky-angel asked a question, and other kind soul posted their thoughts, it is not heard in a OPEN MINDED manner.

The problem is advice that falls within the "acceptable tolerance" are heard. The rest, i assumed, will be ignored due to conflict with morality and other obvious reason.

So, why bother asking for advice when you have already made up your mind about certain things. Advice are dispense by people that come from all walks of life. Standards of morality on this question should not be argued on the ground that sex is dirty or abstinence is the right thing to do.

Think objectively. Do you want to solve the problem? Do you want my advice? Do you want others' opinion?

Having to made judgement about other people AFTER advice had been dispense is just SO WRONG.

Well, if you want to hear what you want to hear. I suggest, next time, advice should be seek from targetted audience. i.e. in this case, if you want supporters to side you in agreeing the fact that sex is not an issue in relationship, you should not condemn those who don't think this way.

..and to those who think sex is a part and parcel of relationship, be happy that you are getting some, leave those who are not getting any, alone.

See, we can actually have a better world this way. Can't we?

usually alot of guys jz wanna sex onli!!!
after tat dumping u!!!!

I find it funny you people didn;'t realise the magnitude of what Wacky-Angel did to his boyfriend and keep on insisting I am sex-crazed. whether I am or not is not the issue here. what is the issue here is a healthy, normal guy being actively denied sex in a relationship for THREE YEARS. I am not the crazy guy here. that guy is crazy and the relationship is crazy.  under normal circumstances, [COLOR=blue]YES, the relationship can last for quite awhile without sexual contact if there are genuine feelings and sincerity involved[/colour]. but three years are a long time. THREE YEARS!!!!! read it out loud! THREE YEARS! THREE YEARS! no guys in their right mind will stay with a girl for three years without sex and without getting it from somewhere else. I hope I have made myself clear.

btw, how old are you, wacky-angel and sidewinder1009?

nice stuff i would say....    more sex education for malaysian....
bsides taht,, i would belief that those who dun wan to have sex is bcoz they really not committed to the relationship 100%.....

Ah, so some of you prefer no sex for three years while some of you prefer having sex at every opportunity you can find. Big deal~ Like duh~ Get over it already. You have your preference, others have their's. So they have a different way of life than you and that makes them abnormal? Geez... what is wrong with you? This argument is so freaking silly...

He meant the RELATIONSHIP is ABNORMAL, not the person. ABNORMAL means not normal, and normal or not normal is a standard.
I blif sanook is experienced enough to see many examples of ppl in their later stage of life. So he can concludes that relationship which u all think that it's "triggered by love", is not a healthy relationship. And if u insist that it's healthy, the relationship between u and ur partner is on the normal standard, and u should really take good care of it.

kiss?
Hug?
rub rub?
mutual masturbation?
oral sex?
everything except penetration(intercourse)?

I am only new to lyn for a week or two, and i am really shocked to see how naive most lyn'ers are!