I never own a victorinox..but my brother does.
I compare my wingman's scissor with my brother's victorinox..and..............................the vixtorinox scissor felt better. It's more gentle on the thumb and cuts smoother....

so if scissor is gonna be used often, dont get the Wingman multitool....try out others instead unless u wanna get a victorinox.....

I used Leatherman multi-tools before, although it feels solid but the knife is cheap (manage to break it, luckily got unlimited lifetime warranty in US) and one thing is the size is too big for a women's hand and their women's version is nothing but a pink color piece of junk

That is the reason I am very weary of getting any multi-tools every since, glad to hear a good review for victorinox - a reason to set aside a budget for it

Both of my Surefire runs on rechargeable CR123A batt, the run time might be a little lack when compared to the non-rechargeable one but it is enough for me, Surefire sells the re-chargeable one and it still hold an ample amount of charge after 2 years of using. The BK-Y300 have a quick detach holster which is a magnet holster, it is very useful in situation where you need light fast. Can I know what type of nite-ize holster you bought, curious...

Which type of pepper spray you prefer, line or cone? I personally prefer line one since it can be used on slightly windy day without the mist coming back at me.

Now, you are making me having a serious consideration wherever to carry my Sting around or not (with those foreigner living in my neighborhood...) Can you explain the difference between a dagger and a knife, from the cops point of view; need to know as much as I can since I commute using public transport everyday...

If I may add something to your third post is if you want to use the flashlight as a self-defense tool (to temporary blind someone) yellow tint light is not an option, many experts agree with this as well as from experience - almost got rob before and I blind him before making a run for it

This post has been edited by yindragon: Dec 11 2015, 12:35 AM

Yup...its BIG offence by the way...i have asked police before, and its really illegal and dangerous...especially during previous OPS Cantas...

I wont recommend it...but i value my life and property...
Its only when i feel there's suspicious looking person around..

Those 'ninja card' has its use? I got one, but seems like nothing usable...

the scissors for me is only useful for cutting small stuff - it is a small cutter anyway, or personal grooming

in terms of pocket tools, i actually prefer my leatherman squirt ps4, but its abit too heavy...weighs 39.5gms compared to the 20.8gms of the vic classic.
yes, barely 20gms difference but u will feel it in ur pocket.

from the cops point of view, any knife thats not a swiss army, and i was told legally under 4"...can get u in trouble.
of cos it depends on what environment u are in etc...be dumb to confisticate it if u are in a jungle

and if u are decent in hand to hand, a decent tool is of cos the keys in ur pocket...or can fix a strike bezel onto ur light if possible...which usually are limited to the tactical lights.

I like leathermen product as they have unlimited lifetime warranty in US but I'm not sure if this is the case in Malaysia. I keep a multi-tool in both my office and home as they are very handy and sturdy, just wish my hands are bigger to have a nice grip around it.

My blade only register under 3.2" inch but I might consider not carry it now since my pepper spray has confiscated already.

I am not very well verse in hand to hand but I do know how to handle a knife very well, the strength difference between gender makes me use knife as a last resort since light blinding is more effective.

mang u put it to use d? how it fares? can share some review?

i read a few review and seems like there are few issues, eventhough it's pretty cool and handy to have a small blade hidden..

Issues i read..pls share ur experience :
1) the button block u from withdrawing the blade if u put too many cards like 3 and few notes. need to remove the card/bill before can draw
2) the button (blade grip) scratches easily
3) the blade has poor edge retention...and even without using, will be blunt coz when u insert/draw, it will grind against it's own sheath

This post has been edited by Armata: Dec 23 2015, 04:58 PM

Normal day-2-day EDC: http://www.amazon.com/Swiss-Tech-ST66676-U...n/dp/B0001EFSTI

Small enough to carry in a wallet and passes through security checkpoints. Its basic, but has the essential tools. When travelling I carry a more comprehensive kit for emergencies.

Looks good.. can be stashed together with keys. most ppl wouldnt notice thinking it's jst another key.. good concealment... and looks handy as well.

sorry for the late reply

i usually dont use pc at home so typing this on a tablet is a hassle so i rather waited to get back to office

after a month or so using the clip i can say it's not for everyone

the clip itself is quite weighty, very well built

the blade is not that sharp but it's quite thick

my little victorinox is sharper out of the box

this thing is not for someone who got many cash and cards to carry

for me i only carry my license my ic mykad and a few cash less than a 100 mostly

i've tried many ways but the easiest is by taking out all the notes and slip it back again

i like that my back pocket is free now

about the issues

1) yes if you put too many cards or cash you cannot pull out the blade so it's best to just bring 3 cards like me and a few notes under 50 ideally

2) if you kept pulling out the blades the coating will get scratched surely. same with the gerber logo in the middle

3) the blade itself is not that sharp for me so i dont know about this but i rarely play with the blade anyway

Thanks for the detailed sharing mang.

The 3 cards + few notes is a turn off liao…I mean we have to take out at least 3 cards already; 1 MYkad + 2 driving license albeit these 2 are jst laminated ones.
Then definitely need Credit Card for emergency..so left with very little space.

But for a minimalist, I guess it’s pretty good.

Again, thanks for the info…decided not to bite Thomas Tool’s discount coupon in getting this….

Added : the blade..have u try sharpen it and see how many times u draw/insert for the blade to grind it’s own sheath and become dull?

yeah forgot that i also bring my atm card

no credit card though

this thing is fine for me since i live my life RM50 at a time lol

i have not yet sharpen the blade coz i dont have the proper tool to do so

now that i got my 13th month salary im planning to get a proper folder into my edc

maybe a buck nobleman since it's quite cheap and doesn't look intimidating

http://thomastools.com.my/collections/rm50...an-3-variations

aiseh..ur link was blocked by my office due to weapons category..sweat.

anyhow, good to know ur getting another knife into your collection...and yup, buck nobleman looks very gentleman indeed. sleek and nice finish.

But ever consider getting a H1 knife from spyderco? i have decided to get one in my next purchase...since i seldom have time to oil my knife, it's only a matter of time before they rust..at the minimum, the screws will rust a little.

So plan to get 1 H1 series blade and stop getting new one after that...some says they cant retain sharpness, but at the price of rust and maintenance free, looks like a reasonable exchange for me. 1 knife that's gonna be there permanently..



And if you're planing to get a sharpening device/tool, consider Lansky's 4-rod turn box..cheap and easy to use.

I got the Lansky's Professional System...but need to screw individual stones when want to use and repack them after use so quite a long process.

any local website to check out the spyderco?

it really is difficult finding them locally

thomas tool didnt bring in spyderco..

but i know OGM does..in fact i think last week they jst shared some new arrival, included spyderco, in their FB.
Add them and inquire from there..should be around RM350 for the H1 salt series..

Enjoice ur browse bro..

OGM = outdoor gear malaysia

This post has been edited by Armata: Dec 28 2015, 02:27 PM

do you have any opinion on ganzo knives?

honestly i never heard of them before but the prices are cheaper than others

i dont really dare to get an expensive knife for edc

Aye. I think last month i saw this brand..seems like widely available now. And it's usually below RM100. So far i havent google for more info apart from it's from china.

Try chcking out those US forums, usually they will give indept review like steel type, hardness, edge retention and finishing...

but i guess if it's seldom heard of, then chances are it might not be as good....kinda like u pay what u get.

But if it's ur usual EDC, not those forest dweller or camping purpose, then why not? Can give it a try..then share ur review here as well. i am curious to find out too..

I'm a big fan of Victorinox. I have multiple models for various usage:

Spartan: Everyday home use.

Classic SD: for shopping purse.

Ranger: Hiking, backpacking.

Bantam: Work.

Waiter: Work backup, with extra corkscrew attachment that's useful for unraveling knots.

But the one I carry the most with me is the SwissCard Lite since it's always in my wallet.

Box description of the SwissCard Lite.


Ranger vs Bantam


Ranger


The Huntsman is very similar to Ranger, but lacking the file. I'm happy with Ranger as I've used the file and metal saw a few times. Last time I used my friend's Huntsman to trim the mango tree at my house, since then I've been wanting a Victorinox with a saw attachment!

Bantam


Bought the Bantam for RM45 at an outdoor store. Online the Bantam costs nearly RM70 not including postage, crazy! Since Bantam is so cheap, I wouldn't mind lending it to colleagues. But now it's probably my favourite Victorinox after the Ranger. It's so compact and useful!

I also have a Leatherman C33x which I intended for work, but it's not as sharp as Victorinox, nor do I like the ragged edge. So I bought the Bantam instead as the main knife for work. Plus, I need the can opener.



As for flashlights, I love my Fenix E05! So does everyone in my family, they always want to steal it It's so small and yet so bright. During blackouts if I set the flashlight to stand on its own so it will shine at the ceiling, it actually produces a brighter illumination compared to using candles. The E05 is about the size of a AA battery (it uses AAA battery). I can't be bothered with using a flashlight with non standard battery, it's too much of a hassle to acquire them.



This post has been edited by emilyc: Dec 28 2015, 08:26 PM

Wah..that's one nice collection u got there on Victorinox! I guess u get most of those victorinox coz u love having them..rather than getting 1 that suits all occasion. Hehee...dont worry, i am guilty of such thing as well

On the Bantam, it comes only with knife and those screwdriver, tweezer and can opener right? And the Ranger doesnt come with a Plier? I find plier to be very very useful..

For the swiss card, how thick is it? 2 credit card thickness? Wonder how it feels to be slipped into a wallet?

And nice Fenix light! I have like 8 Fenix lights...but right now i only EDC Olight Baton due to it's small size, ease of recharge and 550 lumen on a RCR123

Thanks! Haha it's more like being lazy to move them around. For example the Classic SD is always in my purse that I use for shopping. It's too much of a hassle to move it to my work bag or worst, I might forget to move it back and then not having it when I need it most.

One time I was at a shop, it was late and I wanted to go home. Had been searching for an item all day without success and only found it at the store. The item was tied/locked to the display shelf and every staff ignored me. Angered, I used my tiny 58mm Classic SD to cut though the clamshell packaging of the product, to the shocked face of cashiers and then angrily took the product to the cashier and paid. The moral of the story is, even though the 58mm Victorinox looks cute and flimsy, it's a sturdy beast!

The Bantam is single layered so it's compact. It has the standard tweezer, toothpick, blade and the combination tool with flat screwdriver, can opener, bottle opener and wire stripper. The Alox variation is even more slim and compact, but the tweezers are too important to give up.

Yeah the Ranger don't have pliers, but I was after the wood saw and the scissors XD

The SwissCard is about 3 card thickness. It does add a slight bulk to the wallet, but it's been so useful on various situation so I'm willing to overlook the mild inconvenience. In fact, I used the pen tool just now because I forgot to bring a pen heh. The SwissCard is very sturdy, as in the tools won't fall out even if shaken violently. There are fake copies being sold though so I advise looking at YouTube vids to notice the difference. Also be careful to not bend the card too much, like sitting on the wallet.

Even though the Fenix E05 only has 27lumens, it's still blinding. I like the newer E05 because it has 3 different lumen settings. My older model can't be used in close distance because it's too bright. It's also a twist-on type so not really suitable for self defence. I'm thinking of getting another Fenix just for fun, but haven't decided which. I was interested in the E10 but it can't stand on its own so I haven't gotten yet.