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Hylt P
post Feb 10 2021, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(Bababaria @ Feb 10 2021, 07:39 PM)
Applied to all big 4, rejected by all, in a small audit firm now 😭😭. I think it's pretty normal for them to reject given that they have many applicants, and they are pretty much the at the top of the field. Good luck
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Hey sorry for hearing that... hope u can gain exp in your current firm and try to apply for big4 again if u still keen to continue in this field after having some exp... I think by that time your chances is reli high compare to other
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post Feb 10 2021, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(Bababaria @ Feb 10 2021, 07:39 PM)
Applied to all big 4, rejected by all, in a small audit firm now 😭😭. I think it's pretty normal for them to reject given that they have many applicants, and they are pretty much the at the top of the field. Good luck
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Omggg 😭😭 i feel youuu sad.gif did u try to apply to mid- tier firms?
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post Feb 10 2021, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Helloeleo @ Feb 10 2021, 11:03 PM)
Omggg 😭😭 i feel youuu sad.gif did u try to apply to mid- tier firms?
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Yup I did, but no response lol.
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post Feb 10 2021, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Bababaria @ Feb 10 2021, 11:23 PM)
Yup I did, but no response lol.
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Make sure to include the CGPA. No CGPA listed for freshies = skip that resume.
This is what the HR told me when we casually asked how they screen candidates since they have so many to pick from.

I used to work for the no.4 big 4 in MY.
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post Feb 10 2021, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 10 2021, 11:26 PM)
Make sure to include the CGPA. No CGPA listed for freshies = skip that resume.
This is what the HR told me when we casually asked how they screen candidates since they have so many to pick from.

I used to work for the no.4 big 4 in MY.
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Is it advisable to include less than desirable CGPA too (e.g 3 and below)? Considering the fact that I am nearly done with ACCA too.
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QUOTE(klove @ Feb 10 2021, 11:41 PM)
Is it advisable to include less than desirable CGPA too (e.g 3 and below)? Considering the fact that I am nearly done with ACCA too.
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To be honest I had a fun time in uni and have a really lousy CGPA, in younger days first couple jobs I never bothered to put in CGPA (as the cert was from one of the better unis); still managed to land a job before graduating. Granted it was not a big4 but was a fortune 100 firm. For me when talking about CGPA the lesser said the better. But to get the foot in the door in a big4 as a freshie, they do prescreen based on CGPA stated/not stated. Once you have experience already the cert is normally submitted as an 'afterthought' formality upon verbal offer.

*There is also a slight preference in hiring interns as full timers since "better the devil they know rather than the devil they don't" applies to hiring freshies too. Worse comes to worst, can consider applying for an internship and if you perform well they'd want to hire you in as a full timer freshie.

Depending on applied business unit - tax, advisory, etc - highlighting strong points that make you stand out (but you must know such things enough to do a quick demo or explain the concepts) such as soft skill proficiency in R (regression analysis), SQL, tableau, powerBI, VBA, advanced excel usage (most frequently used functions like vlookup/trim/concat/round), Python may be nice for advisory,

and things like VBA, advanced excel usage may be more of value for tax dept.

Can't really speak for audit coz never really dealt much with them, usually see them use excel.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Feb 10 2021, 11:57 PM
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post Feb 11 2021, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Bababaria @ Feb 10 2021, 11:23 PM)
Yup I did, but no response lol.
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Same lol how ah, some didn’t have vacancies also,but i have emailed them. Don’t know whether to wait for their response or to just apply for small firms sad.gif
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QUOTE(Helloeleo @ Feb 11 2021, 12:06 AM)
Same lol how ah, some didn’t have vacancies also,but i have emailed them. Don’t know whether to wait for their response or to just apply for small firms sad.gif
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Medium firms like BTM&H also not bad. It is not the end of the world. After few years of experience can jump to big4 "for the experience".

With the pandemic and social distancing SOP, I hope there will be no more overcramming of 5 pax to 3 tables (meant for 3 pax) like what we were stuffed into last time.
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post Feb 11 2021, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 10 2021, 11:52 PM)
To be honest I had a fun time in uni and have a really lousy CGPA, in younger days first couple jobs I never bothered to put in CGPA (as the cert was from one of the better unis); still managed to land a job before graduating. Granted it was not a big4 but was a fortune 100 firm. For me when talking about CGPA the lesser said the better. But to get the foot in the door in a big4 as a freshie, they do prescreen based on CGPA stated/not stated. Once you have experience already the cert is normally submitted as an 'afterthought' formality upon verbal offer.

*There is also a slight preference in hiring interns as full timers since "better the devil they know rather than the devil they don't" applies to hiring freshies too. Worse comes to worst, can consider applying for an internship and if you perform well they'd want to hire you in as a full timer freshie.

Depending on applied business unit - tax, advisory, etc - highlighting strong points that make you stand out (but you must know such things enough to do a quick demo or explain the concepts) such as soft skill proficiency in R (regression analysis), SQL, tableau, powerBI, VBA, advanced excel usage (most frequently used functions like vlookup/trim/concat/round), Python may be nice for advisory,

and things like VBA, advanced excel usage may be more of value for tax dept.

Can't really speak for audit coz never really dealt much with them, usually see them use excel.
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Thank you for your insight! biggrin.gif

Would you advise a freshie to go for internship in one of the big 4s or just go for a small firm in these trying times? (seeing as how most big 4s/mid tier firms aren't replying me) sad.gif Stuck in a dilemma.

This post has been edited by klove: Feb 11 2021, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(klove @ Feb 11 2021, 12:37 AM)
Thank you for your insight!  biggrin.gif

Would you advise a freshie to go for internship in one of the big 4s or just go for a small firm in these trying times? (seeing as how most big 4s/mid tier firms aren't replying me) sad.gif Stuck in a dilemma.
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Can consider applying as well, no harm giving it a shot - coz if you never try you never know what might happen smile.gif
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post Feb 11 2021, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(klove @ Feb 11 2021, 12:37 AM)
Thank you for your insight!  biggrin.gif

Would you advise a freshie to go for internship in one of the big 4s or just go for a small firm in these trying times? (seeing as how most big 4s/mid tier firms aren't replying me) sad.gif Stuck in a dilemma.
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Update us on ur decision!! Am facing the same dilemma as well
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post Feb 13 2021, 05:34 AM

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Hi guys, can anyone share what’s the position hierarchy in Deloitte (for tax and audit)? Is it something like this i.e. : associate > semi-senior > senior 2 > senior 1 > supervisor > assistant manager ?
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post Feb 14 2021, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(Helloeleo @ Feb 10 2021, 07:05 PM)
Hi guys, is it normal to get rejected by big 4s lol because i got rejected by 2 of them, another didn’t reply me sad.gif did not have internship experience - is this the reason they are not accepting me?
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Dont be worried. They might not be hiring because vacancies might be taken up because right now they are reducing hiring because of Covid-19. They only hire when necessary. Its is also because they have hired people during the last quarter of last year because they were hiring for peak period.

All the best
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QUOTE(KawhiSoSerious @ Feb 13 2021, 05:34 AM)
Hi guys, can anyone share what’s the position hierarchy in Deloitte (for tax and audit)? Is it something like this i.e. : associate > semi-senior > senior 2 > senior 1 > supervisor > assistant manager ?
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consultant > sr consultant> manager>sr manager & etc..

dont have 1,2,3..
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post Feb 23 2021, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Hylt @ Feb 10 2021, 05:11 PM)
Just an update.. I get a tax position in deloitte..meanwhile pwc call me for audit interview after I accept the offer from Deloitte. Deloitte tax interview focus a lot on technical question.. be prepared wif tax knowledge before u go interview ...
initially having a dilemma in choosing audit or tax .. since everyone said the same.. better u start in audit .. but I am not sure I can constantly keep my motivation in this field for the long working hour...had internship before in one of the big 4 and it’s true that u nid to work long long hour for audit..
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Hi, which field of tax did you apply for - Corporate tax, indirect, personal etc? How long did it take for your offer to come after your interview? I know deloitte does reference checks after the interview.
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post Feb 25 2021, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(avo95 @ Feb 23 2021, 01:19 PM)
Hi, which field of tax did you apply for - Corporate tax, indirect, personal etc? How long did it take for your offer to come after your interview? I know deloitte does reference checks after the interview.
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When I apply, the position Juz stated tax assistant, they told me it is personal tax during interview. Offer come after 2 days. Oh they do reference check ? I m nt sure about it
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Hi guys... wanna ask is crowe or bdo better for mid-firms? In respect of experience and team culture
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post Mar 30 2021, 11:08 AM

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EY Partner Low Kin Weng committed suicide on 15 march. RIP

During the funeral, other partners that attended were scolded by his parents for giving their son so much stress that he committed suicide
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post Mar 30 2021, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(jenniekitten @ Mar 30 2021, 11:08 AM)
EY Partner Low Kin Weng committed suicide on 15 march. RIP

During the funeral, other partners that attended were scolded by his parents for giving their son so much stress that he committed suicide
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OMG IS THIS FOR REAL?
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post Mar 30 2021, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Oklahoma @ Mar 30 2021, 12:09 PM)
OMG IS THIS FOR REAL?
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Partner suicide wor.

He can always choose not to take up the partnership or forgo the partnership. Parents being unreasonable.

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