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Hansel
post Jan 25 2021, 11:02 AM

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Hi all, wanna ask about the chances of working and possibly settling down permanently in Australia (Melbourne specifically) in the near future.

Currently working in the financial audit field with around 2 years+ of experience in one of the Big4 audit firms. Will be finishing my paper around mid this year (an Australian-NZ paper too - CAANZ) and will achieve 3 years experience around Q3 of this year. Don't mind getting demoted there as long as I don't start from right at the bottom (currently at senior associate level). Also don't mind to stay in the firm forever as the audit field is actually quite interesting if we take away the long working hours.

Basically the family is trying to find a new environment to start off a new life, considering that we have family issues and also the perception of having not really bright prospects in Malaysia. Parents want the issues to end in their generation and not affect the kids. Singapore is not an option for us as we want to find somewhere with a less hectic pace of life (Aus/NZ will be the best)

Been hearing some of my colleagues who are able to jump off to the branches in various parts of the world. Those who went Australia mostly went to Sydney, but I feel like I will like Melbourne more considering the perceived less hectic life there (and fooddddddd). Been considering NZ too (Auckland) but seems like the opportunities there will be less than Aus. Maybe NZ will be a retirement spot later on.

Maybe someone from similar field can advice on when should I make the jump and the chances of it? confused.gif
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No harm starting something new, bro,.... however, there will always be new challenges and newer 'set of problems' in every new venture,...

On my part,.. the international taxation is my biggest hurdle if need to migrate to a country with worldwide tax issues, but this is a personal circumstance. Everybody has his/her own unique circumstances. Somebody here did say he did not have this problem,... then he has not appeared anymore in this forum.

Actually,... today, it's good to try somewhere new besides here,... the virus has really uncovered so many weaknesses in this place. Aust seems to be managing well in this pandemic. thumbsup.gif

Jmho, bro,....
Garysydney
post Jan 25 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 25 2021, 11:02 AM)
No harm starting something new, bro,.... however, there will always be new challenges and newer 'set of problems' in every new venture,...

On my part,.. the international taxation is my biggest hurdle if need to migrate to a country with worldwide tax issues, but this is a personal circumstance. Everybody has his/her own unique circumstances. Somebody here did say he did not have this problem,... then he has not appeared anymore in this forum.

Actually,... today, it's good to try somewhere new besides here,... the virus has really uncovered so many weaknesses in this place. Aust seems to be managing well in this pandemic.  thumbsup.gif

Jmho, bro,....
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Yes - you are definitely right.

Aust has managed to control this pandemic very well and i feel fortunate to be living here. My wife and i regularly eat out (only 2 of us and not in a big group) in Chinatown and we feel very safe. NSW which is the 'dirtiest state' has recorded about 9-10 days (?) with 0 local infections.

Definitely very fortunate to be living in Aust now - just hope we will not have to lockdown again. thumbup.gif

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post Jan 25 2021, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jan 25 2021, 11:18 AM)
Yes - you are definitely right.

Aust has managed to control this pandemic very well and i feel fortunate to be living here. My wife and i regularly eat out (only 2 of us and not in a big group) in Chinatown and we feel very safe. NSW which is the 'dirtiest state' has recorded about 9-10 days (?) with 0 local infections.

Definitely very fortunate to be living in Aust now - just hope we will not have to lockdown again.  thumbup.gif
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There will be infections somewhere at one time or another,.. no ctry is exempted from this,... the secret is if a ctry is able to recover from this infection, and if a ctry is able to help the people and the economy while 'fighting' the infection. Australia seems to have been able to do both of the above (till now), as seen from the Melbourne infections last year and from the Northern Beach infections a few weeks ago.

People are not encouraged to withdraw from their 'Super',... unlike what that is happening with people being 'allowed' to withdraw from their EPF here. These are the cracks that are beginning to appear,...

I hoped Aust continues to thrive and to be safe. She does have other problems,... but against the biggest issue at hand today,... Aust seems to be coping well. Singapore is another,... but community cases seems to be rising again.

China's cases are coming back too,...

Just my global observations, due to my investment requirements...

Edited : Corrected critical grammar errors which may distort the actual message to be delivered.

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Garysydney
post Jan 25 2021, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 25 2021, 12:56 PM)
There will be infections somewhere at one time or another,.. no ctry is exempted from this,... the secret is if a ctry is able to recover from this infection, and if a ctry is able to help the people and the economy while 'fighting' the infection. Australia seems to have been able to do both of the above (till now), as seen from the Melbourne infections last year and from the Northern Beach infections a few weeks ago.

People are not encouraged to withdraw from their 'Super',... unlike what that is happening with people being 'allowed' to withdraw from their EPF here. These are the cracks that are beginning to appear,...

I hoped Aust continues to thrive and to be safe. She does have other problems,... but against the biggest issue at hand today,... Aust seems to be coping well. Singapore is another,... but community cases seems to be rising again.

China's cases are coming back too,...

Just my global observations, due to my investment requirements...

Edited : Corrected critical grammar errors which may distort the actual message to be delivered.
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Definitely agree with your analysis.

I suspect we will have cases 'suddenly' appear like in the case of the Northern Beaches - it is important where cases start appearing, the number of infections are brought under control without needing to resort to 'lockdowns'. Once number of infections are rising, it is very difficult to control.

One thing i must say with Sydneysiders is they behave very well. Just before the Northern Beaches flare-up, everyone was feeling comfortable with eating out and restaurants were full with dine-ins. Once the Northern Beaches cases started appearing, everyone stayed home and restaurants were empty - i must admit my wife and i were very naughty and we continued to eat out (though not with other friends). At the moment, all my retiree folks are eating out but only with household members and not with friends yet. Maybe if we get another couple of months of zero new cases, we may start eating out with friends again biggrin.gif

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post Jan 25 2021, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Jan 25 2021, 01:28 PM)
Definitely agree with your analysis.

I suspect we will have cases 'suddenly' appear like in the case of the Northern Beaches - it is important where cases start appearing, the number of infections are brought under control without needing to resort to 'lockdowns'. Once number of infections are rising, it is very difficult to control.

One thing i must say with Sydneysiders is they behave very well. Just before the Northern Beaches flare-up, everyone was feeling comfortable with eating out and restaurants were full with dine-ins. Once the Northern Beaches cases started appearing, everyone stayed home and restaurants were empty - i must admit my wife and i were very naughty and we continued to eat out (though not with other friends). At the moment, all my retiree folks are eating out but only with household members and not with friends yet. Maybe if we get another couple of months of zero new cases, we may start eating out with friends again  biggrin.gif
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Tq again for all your sharings, bro Gary,... I'm glad my family in Sydney and Canberra....
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post Jan 26 2021, 02:20 PM

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Can someone tell me where can I racism in Aussie? I am considering doing this. It doesn't affect me but I do believe Aussie should revoke this racist PR holder in Aussie.

I will make short summary:
This guy lives in Aussie. he has a start up in Malaysia. He doesn't even need to be back in Malaysia.
So we all know the dumb BMF moves are all around.

1.) A non-Bumi company distributing Aussie products in Malaysia and Singapore.
2.) This product sells very well, so he dug out the info that there is only 1 Bumi, but not a major shareholder of this company. Thus not a bumi company.
3.) So since he has many followers, he influences them indirectly about BMF, not to buy this brand anymore.
4.) But the thing is that the product is 100% produced in Aussie, meaning he also indirectly hurt the Aussie producer sales volume.

I do believe the Aussie government will look into this because it is a trade involved Aussie economy.
Any guide for me to report them in Aussie website?
Garysydney
post Jan 27 2021, 03:26 AM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jan 26 2021, 02:20 PM)
Can someone tell me where can I racism in Aussie? I am considering doing this. It doesn't affect me but I do believe Aussie should revoke this racist PR holder in Aussie.

I will make short summary:
This guy lives in Aussie. he has a start up in Malaysia. He doesn't even need to be back in Malaysia.
So we all know the dumb BMF moves are all around.

1.) A non-Bumi company distributing Aussie products in Malaysia and Singapore.
2.) This product sells very well, so he dug out the info that there is only 1 Bumi, but not a major shareholder of this company. Thus not a bumi company.
3.) So since he has many followers, he influences them indirectly about BMF, not to buy this brand anymore.
4.) But the thing is that the product is 100% produced in Aussie, meaning he also indirectly hurt the Aussie producer sales volume.

I do believe the Aussie government will look into this because it is a trade involved Aussie economy.
Any guide for me to report them in Aussie website?
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It is extremely unlikely a case under the Anti-Discrimination Act can result in loss of your PR.

PR can be revoked if a person is charged with a 'serious' offence. Serious usually involves loss of lives or physical harm to another fellow Aussie or the threat of violence to another person. A criminal offence under the Anti-Discrimination Act hardly constitutes a 'serious offence'. Unless the court can prove loss of live(s) or physical harm to a fellow Aussie, you are unlikely to lose your PR.

People smugglers have been known to lose their PR because it involves lives endangered (for the victims). You can also lose your PR if you drive dangerously as this is seen as endangering lives. If you are cahrged under the Anti-Discrimination Act, this is usually viewed as a less serious offence unless one can prove that lives may be endangered smile.gif

P's: My post here may be totally unrelated to what you were stating. My post relates to how an Aussie PR may lose their PR because of a criminal conviction smile.gif

This post has been edited by Garysydney: Jan 27 2021, 04:04 AM
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post Feb 22 2021, 08:43 AM

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Look at the Aussie dollar - like a rocket shooting up rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Feb 24 2021, 12:38 PM

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Look at the Aussie dollar - like a rocket shooting up  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Congrats, bro Gary,... yeah,... my SG REITs and forex pair has done very well too.
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post Feb 25 2021, 05:03 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 24 2021, 12:38 PM)
Congrats, bro Gary,... yeah,... my SG REITs and forex pair has done very well too.
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Aussie dollar still shooting up biggrin.gif .

Hope it stays like that.
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post Feb 25 2021, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 25 2021, 05:03 AM)
Aussie dollar still shooting up  biggrin.gif .

Hope it stays like that.
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But you got no more good term deposits to earn, bro Gary,.... a good exchange rate only helps you/me to spend in other currencies,.... what do you think?
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Feb 25 2021, 02:06 PM)
But you got no more good term deposits to earn, bro Gary,.... a good exchange rate only helps you/me to spend in other currencies,.... what do you think?
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Need to take a bit of risks nowadays. Term deposits rates too low. Need to allocate more into equities now but market is already quite high. Quite a predicament we are in smile.gif .
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 25 2021, 05:03 AM)
Aussie dollar still shooting up  biggrin.gif .

Hope it stays like that.
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that is of advantage only if you convert into another currency....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 25 2021, 03:43 PM)
that is of advantage only if you convert into another currency....
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I think living with a stronger currency is preferable to a weaker currency esp since we are living here.

I have most of my assets in Aussie dollar and it is a good time to start buying a bit more ringgit now. The last time the Aussie was so high was a few years ago - at that time, my money was all tied up and i couldn't take advantage of the situation. I have a retiree friend bragging to me (last year) that he managed to buy a lot of ringgit when the Aussie was 3.40 (he bought a small condo in KLCC then) smile.gif
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 25 2021, 05:43 PM)
I think living with a stronger currency is preferable to a weaker currency esp since we are living here.

I have most of my assets in Aussie dollar and it is a good time to start buying a bit more ringgit now. The last time the Aussie was so high was a few years ago - at that time, my money was all tied up and i couldn't take advantage of the situation. I have a retiree friend bragging to me (last year) that he managed to buy a lot of ringgit when the Aussie was 3.40 (he bought a small condo in KLCC then)  smile.gif
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you have given up the idea of retiring in Malaysia already?
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post Feb 26 2021, 01:54 AM

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you have given up the idea of retiring in Malaysia already?
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My wife is the boss and she decides where i go smile.gif

The Covid numbers are still very high in Msia and i doubt if the numbers are real. I suspect the situation in Msia is a lot worse than is currently portrayed. Makes me a little worried living in Msia. I have been monitoring the number of new infections in Msia daily. Doesn't give me much confidence in the daily number with the figure so high.
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Hi all, wanna ask about the chances of working and possibly settling down permanently in Australia (Melbourne specifically) in the near future.

Currently working in the financial audit field with around 2 years+ of experience in one of the Big4 audit firms. Will be finishing my paper around mid this year (an Australian-NZ paper too - CAANZ) and will achieve 3 years experience around Q3 of this year. Don't mind getting demoted there as long as I don't start from right at the bottom (currently at senior associate level). Also don't mind to stay in the firm forever as the audit field is actually quite interesting if we take away the long working hours.

Basically the family is trying to find a new environment to start off a new life, considering that we have family issues and also the perception of having not really bright prospects in Malaysia. Parents want the issues to end in their generation and not affect the kids. Singapore is not an option for us as we want to find somewhere with a less hectic pace of life (Aus/NZ will be the best)

Been hearing some of my colleagues who are able to jump off to the branches in various parts of the world. Those who went Australia mostly went to Sydney, but I feel like I will like Melbourne more considering the perceived less hectic life there (and fooddddddd). Been considering NZ too (Auckland) but seems like the opportunities there will be less than Aus. Maybe NZ will be a retirement spot later on.

Maybe someone from similar field can advice on when should I make the jump and the chances of it? confused.gif
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If you're thinking that u can enjoy better working hours in audit in Australia, u're wrong. The hours are just as bad as those in Asia, it's just the nature of audit. IT's even worse in US. So it wont be less hectic like u hoped.

Australia's still closing their borders to foreigners and hence you wont be enter the country this year or until covid is over. Try Singapore first if u really want to go overseas.
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 26 2021, 01:54 AM)
My wife is the boss and she decides where i go  smile.gif

The Covid numbers are still very high in Msia and i doubt if the numbers are real. I suspect the situation in Msia is a lot worse than is currently portrayed. Makes me a little worried living in Msia. I have been monitoring the number of new infections in Msia daily. Doesn't give me much confidence in the daily number with the figure so high.
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Actually the situation in Malaysia is a lot more normal than the statistics would suggest... compared to the first wave when a near total lockdown was in place despite relatively few cases....
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post Feb 26 2021, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 26 2021, 08:01 AM)
Actually the situation in Malaysia is a lot more normal than the statistics would suggest... compared to the first wave when a near total lockdown was in place despite relatively few cases....
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Okay - thanks for the comments.

Sydney is very safe at the moment (at least that is how i feel) - we can go anywhere and walk around without that feeling of 'fear' that you get when numbers are high.

Bloody Aussie dollar - down again this morning together with the stock market. I am getting my payout soon (in a couple of weeks) and i was going to transfer to Msia (ringgit) as the Aussie has been so strong!!

I have been talking to my relatives on the phone and it seems like you guys in Msia are quite comfortable going out most of the times - Msians seem to accept this virus without much fear or apprehension. Aussies tend to be much more careful (and obedient).
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QUOTE(Garysydney @ Feb 26 2021, 09:00 AM)
Okay - thanks for the comments.

Sydney is very safe at the moment (at least that is how i feel) - we can go anywhere and walk around without that feeling of 'fear' that you get when numbers are high.

Bloody Aussie dollar - down again this morning together with the stock market. I am getting my payout soon (in a couple of weeks) and i was going to transfer to Msia (ringgit) as the Aussie has been so strong!!

I have been talking to my relatives on the phone and it seems like you guys in Msia are quite comfortable going out most of the times - Msians seem to accept this virus without much fear or apprehension. Aussies tend to be much more careful (and obedient).
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Australians will have a difficult time transitioning into a newer new normal of living with covid....unlike most other countries where things are getting better, it's actually a deterioration for Australia when it reopens as it will have to eventually....

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