TBH, they might give u TR. however, you're still eligible to apply PR later once you're working for couple of years with your IELTS done.
Look, if you wanna work, i suggest you get yourself some skills like work as tilers, carpenters, ceiling fixers or gardener. It's a dirty job but the pay is good once you got experience.
Many PRC who work hard labour here get their citizenship after many years, then they become tauke themselves driving and buy big house here. I dealt quite a number of them. They don't own big company but working with a decent pay too.

Electrical Engineer, 65 points. I got the invitation almost immediately right after the state government approved your application.

My friend went to Australia in April, he apply like crazy like 30 jobs a month. He only got 4 interviews. Now September he still jobless.

What industry is he in? Job application in Australia is different than in Malaysia. Usually you would have to alter the CV format to match Australia format. Plus, you would also need to provide a cover letter and selection criteria for most jobs

Finance.

My friend, he is quite street smart, he would know how to write up a good cover letter and reply to selection criteria.

I know in Australia, they use more job recruiters.

Okay, hopefully he gets a job real soon.

me too.

I also got another friend who migrated last year Jan.

But he also unable to find job for months, he decided to take a graduate diploma in education. He then found a part time job as a babysitter at a child care center.

Finance is not really the best in Australia, he would have succeed much better if he was in Singapore/Hong Kong.

All the best in the job hunting. It's not just street smart anymore in this dire economy, you would need much more than that.

Engineering also not so good in Australia.

For doctor, I am not sure why I got a doctor friend who migrated there, she didn't like the job environment, came back.

so what's good career in Australia?

Doubt there's a specific career in Australia that is prominent. Think of jobs that the aussies does not want to do (e.g. shift jobs), then you will have much better opportunities.

Personally I felt that as a fresh grad over here, the working environment might not be the best, too laid back.

Doctor in Australia is good money if you take the night shift jobs. I got a few doctor friends liking it there. But not married yet la.

I don't know how true is it but I heard from my friend there, there's some racism in job selection.

My friend there tells me that he is feeling he is not pick for interview despite numerous applications. He and I got the same kind of experience and capabilities. I heard people say they only count Aussie experience. But when I take a look at Seek.com, I notice those job specs are not very different than what I am doing in Malaysia. I saw stuff like hey I know how to use this accounting software, I;ve done his job before ! How come my friend is not selected.

Yeah just curious.

I also heard they have to take position in some rural Aust area.

Depends on your tier. There are 3 tiers which determine what hospitals you are eligible to work at. I assume your friends are tier 3? Which is non australian citizen/pr + non australian education. This tier is basically all rural hospitals

In order to answer you, below are the actual scenarios happening here：-

1) what's written on the wall might not be the same as what you gonna do. for instance if you're engineer, doesn't mean that you'll have the same terminology used here. they have their own standards and requirement.
2) if you're doing real good in Malaysia, doesn't mean you can survive here. It's all about mentality changing. looking for a job here really a big challenge, but if you're the employer yourself, you might in doubt of hiring those people too. reason is that it's a migrant country. you got thousands of immigrants from every corner of the world fighting for the job. what if they doesn't understand or fit in to the job or get along with colleagues, that's what they scares most. So, they'll throw out simply a reason saying you got no local experience. not pouring icy cold water on you but once you're stepping on the 1st job and stays at least a year or 2, you'll be fine.

3) interview session is the most important. i interviewed couple of gags including malaysian. some have a very good CV written but lack of communication. no eye contact and talk to the wall. some got poor CV written but with good communication skills, however, poor attitude. I did try to help our fellow malaysian but as i said earlier most of them.....yeah most of the applications are parachuter......sigh...

4) handskill is the key to get a job. you won't be jobless on this. malaysian tend to think once finish uni, can sit in the office very song. not in Oz. my manager gets 6 figures pay but almost everyday on site. don't afraid to get your hands dirty, then you got future dy....

This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Oct 3 2016, 03:12 PM

to reply to you

1) I know what's written on the wall because I did accounting jobs. They are very similar to jobstreet advertisement. Some of them advertise for certain experience in acctg software and SAP and Oracle which I have used before. I have 20 years in Accountancy.

In terms of accountancy I don't think they differ. I worked for an Australian concrete company which I do travel to their HQ in Aust. I don't specifically see any big difference between my skillset and their finance personnel skillset except they way they report their accounts for legal purposes differs. I now regularly travel to UK, Singapore and Hong Kong - I do know how the quality Finance personnel in other others.

2 & 3) The problem is they don't even have the opportunity to attend the interview, they just get shot down at the application stage. I do admit that the quality of our grad level applicants are really awful. I interviewed some of them, and they come across to me, as if they are some kind of refugee education level.

But then again I do have some of my counterparts who are quite capable which I am surprise as to why they can't get a job interview

TBH, i can't say there's no discrimination here but not as bad as Malaysia. Happens that the racial tension not going that obvious to public.

1) the pay between asian and angmoh won't come to par unless you're really super duper outstanding where none of ozzies get do it.
2) the job vacancies given out to angmoh. once filled up, the rest will leave it to migrants
3) job seeking depending to where you're locating. For instance in eastern states (syd,melb,brissie...) will be based on slogan 'seeking job not who you know but who you are'....WA is another kind states (where i am now) will be 'not who you are but who you know'

4) most angmoh very protective themselves and anything or anyone from outer space will be alienated. they'll criticise you kaw2 on your work and your product. don't forget we still can char them too.

Back to topic, job ain't come in easy, can aim for asian company 1st then only venture ozzie company.

Mate, just wanna share my view:

First, it is true that Asian experience is not well recognised in Aus - It doesn't only affect Asian who are keen to look a job in Aus, Aussies who spent years working in Asian markets such as HK or SG also suffer similar predicament because Aussie business are pretty parochial with the exception of international companies or professionals service firms. This issue was reported in a newspaper article in fact.

In terms of recruitment, what you know and how good you are are secondary - yes technical knowledge is important but it is a given, what they look for are generally 2 things - whether they are going to like you as a person and if you fit into their culture, and if they think you are going to stay long. Generally it becomes a subjective exercise. Subconscious bias happens because you are from overseas and you do not speak in the way they do - Just imagine someone from for example, Bangladesh or Brazil applying for a job from you and you are interviewing them, as much as we want to be objective, we might ask ourselves if we can get someone locally first before we offer them a job because we are afraid that we have hard time working with them because they will need time to adapt to our own environment, although they might be willing to work harder. I think only companies in Sydney or maybe Melbourne are more open about recruiting internationally because people are so used to a multi-cultural environment, still they need to "feel good" about you.

Unfortunately I do not have a solution for you other than keep trying. I myself tried looking for a job for almost a year offshore but then again I was applying for Big 4s (and in Sydney), which they are more receptive about international candidates. Honestly, it took me almost 2 years to really understand the culture and finally communicate effectively with the local counterparts. I think what is important is the need to present yourself confidently and speak loud, even with broken english. Local Aussies focus a lot on perception and they tend to view confident people highly - I might be biased but that is why Indians have an advantage over Chinese in general because they are confident when they speak and they tend to be very chatty as well.

In terms of discrimination, I have yet to encounter critical discrimination but I know it happens. Then again, that is mainly because my company is a global company and my team in Sydney is very global minded and they worked with an international team. In fact, local Aussies in my team acknowledge discrimination happens and they detest it too. You will realise people in Sydney are very different from people in Brisbane or Perth and generally based on my short working experience in Brisbane, smaller town Aussies (like Brisbane) do not like Aussies from Sydney or Melbourne because they tend to be pushy (A competitive environment shapes the character) and they think differently too. So as you can see, even Aussies see each other differently depending on where you are from as they are very parochial. So racism do happen because if they never encounter an Asian before, they do not know how to communicate with them,there is nothing much you can do about it really.

Just FYI, I worked in SG before and there are discrimination as well in SG - where SG people will prefer SG and secondly, Msian candidates over candidates from other nations like China or India. It just happens everywhere mate, nothing personal.

Wish you all the best

This post has been edited by Justin Wong: Oct 3 2016, 09:10 PM

Well Said,

regarding jobs i can say finance is a challenging, but accounting should be easier. To be honest I have yet to meet any Malaysian more then 6 months jobless. If you are extremely picky in position then tough luck.

Reading the discussions here with interest:
- I got so much experience in MY why no interview one?
- Discrimination! Asians don't get the job!!!

- I got so much experience in MY why no interview one?
Cos demand < supply. Oz population small. Companies fewer. Salaries $$$. One job 100s of candidates. Tell me, if u recruiter, how u select who to interview? Pick the first few that match criterion lor.

- Discrimination! Asians don't get the job!!!
FWIW, I have worked in many teams where the Indians and Asians outnumber the ang mohs.
It may seem that there is a bamboo ceiling of sorts, esp at the top, but bear in mind Asians only make up about 8% of the populace. Abt 75% of Ozzies hv Anglo Celtic heritage.