are they good enough? nope

are we better than them in term of productivity and efficiency? 80% I say yes

but why did they seldom acknowledge our hard work?they simply dont like migrant

really made my day

mining and mining

It depends. I am comparing the skilled ones in Malaysia against theirs. They are obviously better in presentation and professional style. But not by a lot.

If you say all races in Malaysia compared to Australia, of course, we lose flat.

They don't migrant yet they are bringing migrants. Just like us, we don't like bangglas but we still need them.

I thought mining downturn. Coal price down.

soon the price will soar up high

u know non renewable source

just like OnG

Not for another 10 years I guess.

Economy is a cycle, at the moment the price down has just started.

Besides with the oversupply in shale oil and Russia, Saudi and OPEC can't decided when to cut back on supply - the downward trend in commodity prices will stay for a while.

You also better check if your can start a career in Australia.

I am not trying to be the messenger of bad news but to be frank a lot of my friends who migrated there are at the moment struggling to find full time jobs for almost 2 years. Well I am sure there are good news for some who had succeeded but there are some who also did not quite make the cut. From what I gather from here, you have to have really good CV and presentation skills in interview.

Obviously you have no idea how it works here. there's P&C law here which your complain to fairwork won't reveal. Think out of the box on the next job, i think you should know how to answer.

Yes, job is hard to find. but why some people manage to get a job even they're overseas or less than 2 weeks?

Obviously when you complain, the fairwork people would come and query and investigate, right? So bukak file and then go over to employer to interview. Obviously the employer would know who the fairwork people are talking about when there is a complain right?

If fairwork people come and say so and so for example - (example ah) Mr Nemisis come over and complain racism because ozzy boss call him a yellowbelly. Then the ozzy boss remember, oh I call this guy yellowbelly. I give as an example lah. Then they can identify mah. You don't tell me that there is a case and potential fine 25k the company won't know who the complainant is?

I don't have the statistics, but I heard many migrants are struggling to find permanent job in Australia. Even if they can find, its either a part time job or for those who really darn lucky, get a job but usually its a job that hardly able to pay the rent plus tax. Maybe 1 out of 10 are able to fnd a job within 2 weeks. Anyways, those odds are really good, you sure people can find job in 2 weeks? Even for me, in Malaysia, I apply job first week, get interview 2nd week, then only 3rd week they consider asking you to join. 2 weeks? What kind of job is that?

Its difficult situation . I know 6 guys who migrated all withing the same time frame as me which is mid 2015, to melbourne 1 Business analyst 1 Data Analyst 3 networking 1 building engineering all manage to find jobs in their field within 2 months the quickest is 1 week. Although all of us in terms of position its a step down but still the same field so there is room to grow.

Yet I have heard stories of many who are unable to get jobs etc so not sure what the real situation is.

I'm telling you the true situation where my wife's working in the company. they got 15 branch in WA and some managers are racist bloke and discriminating some of their asian staff. Reported to fairwork, came in investigate. Manager get sacked and company have to compensate the sufferer's damage coz not monitor the situation. they got 300 staff in the company so don't play2 here.
I'm not denying that there is discrimination going on here but not as worst or obvious as malaysia. Dun believe? try it here see what's going on later.

Struggling getting a job is a challenge. Sorry to say I'm the one who found my job within 2 weeks after step down from the plane. 1 year later i jumped to another company for 2 years. later heading back to 1st company again with higher pay. But i'm not the best. A lady who only got SPM got a job offer while she's still working in SG (offshore) and she's earning 90k/annum. She bought houses and cars within 2 years.

Just keep on trying and send as much CV as possible. Don't mind walk in coz i did it b4. Even now some ppl walked into my office ask for job too. industry is tighten up and lack of job offer now.

Prove yourself that you're much better than others so think out of the box on how to sell yourself....i mean skills ....lol

This post has been edited by Nemesis1980: Oct 6 2016, 09:05 AM

Yes la, so now they know the identity of the complainant at your wife company. Because have to open case mah, then the case worker come and interview everybody. That is why sometime some people not dare to put forward a complain. The person who won the compensation, I mean, next time ask for job reference, who knows? Kena kutuk kaw kaw by the not so happy former employer.

I don't know about your situation but I rarely hear people got off the plane and got a job in 2 weeks. Even those part time jobs people desperate to get hold fort, also takes months. My friend who is a senior manager back in Malaysia, have to settle for childcare (nice name for babysitter) part time job for 2 years still not find permanent job.

I even have a relative who graduated in Australia (no need to get off from plane), straight away got his PR, then apply for jobs for 2 years, could not find a permanent one, in the end lucky for him he found job with a friend but as a bartender. Can't imagine a master degree holder became a bar tender.

The problem is how to prove yourself when one rarely get interview chance. I don't know about my value but I know of one friend after 7 months only 3 job interviews.

Hmm maybe IT grads easier to find job?

Anyways most of those friends I know are in accounting, sales and engineer field.

Nowadays A lot of companies need IT staff. Not just in Australia, even in Malaysia and Singapore, IT people are easier to get jobs compare with business worker. I think its because alot of IT expertise ends up moving toward business related job instead of IT job due to long workings hours, shift, as well as working xtra time during weekends.

As i mentioned earlier, there's a privacy law here. The employer won't have so much time to entertain the ex-employee. If that's the case, the ex-employee can sue for defamation later. So why bother so much?

Still cannot find job have some reason. If you're working very high pose become management level, it's very hard to bend your knees and get your hands dirty to work from below. There's a culture shock going on for them to do so. Some people can take it but some couldn't and end up go back. This lies to the question on why you intend to migrate at the 1st place? What's the push for you to make the move?
Some people already happy back home with maid or bangla to help him wash his cars and ironing his clothes but when migrate, everything has to DIY.
Some people cannot tahan to work as low range job or part time so balik lor.

The guy i met earlier who's accounting manager very glamour about his job in SG. He found a job in a month but fighting with his co-worker and kena sacked within 3 mths. why? coz he felt he's superb and cannot compromise the working culture here. kutuk his boss and team who cannot cope his fast pace work culture. Main thing is he's the only professional degree holder in the company. Now, question, working to get along or a loneranger wannabe?

Coming to Australia is to be humble and get along with different people and different culture. Respect is the key. Even some of your co-worker only got TAFE or cert, don't glamour about your degree. experience matters.

I realised that we as a migrant should maintain the Ozzie lifestyle here to make sure it won't fade out by other culture......BBQ, camping, beer...

As always, if you're having a high income with maid or bangla back home help you to do gardening, no point for migrating to Australia. I told my friend back home who're dato & datin, no need to migrate here, just send kids to uni and let them decide wanna migrate or not. come here holiday on & off will do since they're super rich.

No wor, those high position friends I know, really know what they looking for. They of course not expect to want to become same position when they work in Australia. At least most of their expectations are realistic, they want to go for the life in Australia. But even the minimum requirement cannot get. Like my friend who don't mind to take up graduate pay accounting job in Australia, who was a senior manager in Malaysia, but that kind of job also cannot get. Because its those kind of job with the min salary he can survive, but Australia is not allow him opportunity to prove to them. I know he is quite capable, he has gone co to co, without fail very adaptive to new job environment. He was my classmate in year 12 South Aust Matriculation, he scored 93 pts overall, the local AUssie also cannot fight and then when we both graduated from Aussie Uni, his result full of High Distinctions.

He sold his bungalow in Tropicana. He was adamant he wanted to sacrifice his career here so he can provide better future for his kids education in Australia. He didn't mind a junior position. Problem is, junior position also cannot get. He been there for 2 years counting. Btw, he is nice guy and very attentive to his staff. He never go around fight or cause politics, he is likeable by his expat bosses and his own staff. So why he fail? I puzzled. SOmetime it make me want to feel that Australia employers not want to give people like him a chance.

Now he doing part time work.

Me too, I not interested in career life, reason being I want the laid back life and want to get away from the red shirt and the corruption problems along with lousy exchange rate back home. But the things that is happening in Australia, the minimum requirement to get a junior position job, is causing me nerves and worry. That;s why I delayed my migration. Until it expired haha. But I still have the resident return visa that last 10 yrs from expiry.

IT staff in Malaysia kena a lot of exploitation. Like Silverlake hires staff to do Singapore job, but only get allowance not Singapore salary, have to fly back to Malaysia every weekend.

So not sure how it is in Australia.

I think we're more likely talk about much of someone else decision and their job hunting life. Now talk about yourself when are you gonna come over for the laid back life?Or just throw away the PR since it's a no job guarantee land with full of kangaroos around.

Not really. I don't really have the true stats available so before I take such a big step I want to do more research so I mirror those who have similar job experiences I have who have migrated.

After all isn't what this thread is for? Finding out more whether its feasible or not.