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 How To Check Your Forex Broker Is Genuine Or Scam, Real FX Broker VS Scam FX Broker

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TSDrFX
post Dec 23 2016, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 23 2016, 10:21 AM)
Globally, it's pretty hard to take BNM as a guide in Forex trading. It doesnt consist of international capital market guideline, just like 1MDB case. hmm.gif
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post Dec 23 2016, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(hideto79 @ Dec 23 2016, 09:15 AM)
Not sure Citifx? hrm what about J.P. Morgan market (also known a Liquidity provider). Another popular forex been took over by RHB/rhbgroup, call rhbinvest or maybank call maybank-ke in sg are this also genuine?
etoro now day also very popular for lazy trader like me is this genuine too?
No offence but Genuine topic for free.

Merry Christmas. HoHoHO
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We are concerned about the retail FX market scams instead of liquidity provider. RHBInvest is a great platform for stocks trading. thumbup.gif

Thanks for your input, eToro is a regulated broker and we have added to genuine brokers list.
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post Dec 23 2016, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(akingko @ Dec 23 2016, 10:09 AM)
Hi, I'm new to forex this thing and last night one my friend asked me to join IGOFX... I'm abit worry its scam so I done some research and I found this thread. Just wanna ask... is anyone can introduce any genuine forex trader or broker ya?
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Are you looking to trade FX yourself or preferred to invest?

AVOID IGOFX at all cost.
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post Dec 23 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 23 2016, 03:26 PM)
Globally, it's pretty hard to take BNM as a guide in Forex trading. It doesnt consist of international capital market guideline.
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The ruling is about prohibited any individual people, company or institutional trade forex in Malaysia without license from BNM, nothing to do whatsoever international capital guideline.
In other word, trading forex in Malaysia without BNM license is illegal, as simple as that.



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post Dec 23 2016, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(xpmm @ Dec 23 2016, 05:11 PM)
how are you go8ng with etoro? one month got 5%?
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More than 5% depend sometimes less always can leave copytrade, I've deposite 2k pound so far earn not much but good thing is every single thing like raw material can trade, you just follow the copytrade.
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post Dec 24 2016, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Dec 23 2016, 12:40 PM)
This topic is generously to avoid early bird to be conned by IB and help to reduce forex victim. Since you knew the answer well but still keep asking faked questions without provide anything helpful, it is easy to make people think you are one of the IB as the topic is threatening your personal hidden benefit.
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Jack since you ask, actually I just register in lowyat few day, why?? cause when Dr Fx seem claim to be Dr ppl getting believe what he said and that a bad thing, my judge mostly what he said is correct some are false wonder why? if refer your topic reduce forex victim. Example XM yes company have 3 regulation but is a partner only you won't find XM register hohoho and XM who he earn trader money is by spread and market maker mean you win xm lose or you lose xm win hohoho so do you want such broker???
IB of course no am just a old folk trader that it, hoping to get a reliable source for me before believe some one always do a basic testing skill, scam fxcoliseum ??? Fxcoliseum is a ECN connected to who? most of them in the list genuine.
So Mr. Jack faked question? and Merry Christmas to you.
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post Dec 24 2016, 12:36 AM

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Obviously, this topic can create a lot of enemies because it blocks faked broker/ introducer for targeting victim here. I have foreseen that many IB will attack the topic using many offensive words.

DrFx just don't give up !
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post Dec 24 2016, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 23 2016, 03:32 PM)
We are concerned about the retail FX market scams instead of liquidity provider. RHBInvest is a great platform for stocks trading. thumbup.gif

Thanks for your input, eToro is a regulated broker and we have added to genuine brokers list.
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Good Morning DrFX, liquidity provider was recommend to jack right or someone else? seems it follow up to you. I wonder why you not listing up good LP which you can open account for forex too as genuine which is more 101% not a scam forex. Anyway let end this topic.

Have a good day and Merry Christmas.
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post Dec 24 2016, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Dec 24 2016, 12:36 AM)
Obviously, this topic can create a lot of enemies because it blocks faked broker/ introducer for targeting victim here. I have foreseen that many IB will attack the topic using many offensive words.

DrFx just don't give up !
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Lol Jack you are the one who bring it out now you pretend to be good guy?
Just end the story all be good. Sorry to said DrFX cause your list genuine an scam is not 100% correct. MY BAD
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post Dec 24 2016, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 23 2016, 04:33 PM)
The ruling is about prohibited any individual people, company or institutional trade forex in Malaysia without license from BNM, nothing to do whatsoever international capital guideline.
In other word, trading forex in Malaysia without BNM license is illegal, as simple as that.
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Thanks for your reminder. The reason why BNM has such alert or warning is try to protect Malaysian from illegal Forex trading or scam FX, sadly they do not state the actual guideline of capital market. Trading Forex with well licensed FX brokers/banks is like buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers. If a Malaysian purchase Facebook shares or Apple shares through US licensed stock broker, is that considered illegal?

FYI, in 2017, Malaysia will start a new regulatory body called FMAM to regulate FX business activities. It's will take times to reach the standard of UK FCA or Swiss FINMA.

We trust the integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS, etc. They have the world standard of FX compliance rules & regulation and given the right protection to international investors.

When we talk about BNM integrity, you remind us of 1MDB case where the entire world pledged guilty on 1MDB fraud case but BNM closed the case easily.

This post has been edited by DrFX: Dec 24 2016, 04:27 AM
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post Dec 24 2016, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE(hideto79 @ Dec 24 2016, 12:05 AM)
Jack since you ask, actually I  just register in lowyat few day, why?? cause when Dr Fx seem claim to be Dr ppl getting believe what he said and that a bad thing, my judge mostly what he said is correct some are false wonder why? if refer your topic reduce forex victim. Example XM yes company have 3 regulation but is a partner only you won't find XM register hohoho and XM who he earn trader money is by spread and market maker mean you win xm lose or you lose xm win hohoho so do you want such broker???
IB of course no am just a old folk trader that it, hoping to get a reliable source for me before believe some one always do a basic testing skill, scam fxcoliseum ??? Fxcoliseum is a ECN connected to who? most of them in the list genuine.
So Mr. Jack faked question?   and Merry Christmas to you.
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Hi hideto79,

Not many get the right picture of the FX market. We believe you need a better understanding on FX world.

Do you know 99% of liquidity providers are market makers? Sounds crazy? No, this is the fact and that's how they make money. Do you think LPs/banks/brokers can survive as a STP (non market maker) where they have to maintain their license and business expenses over million dollar a year. As long as LPs/brokers hold a market maker license from top tier regulators, they have the right to choose any trades that they want to take in and trades that they preferred to process with bigger banks. There is nothing wrong with this business model, brokers need to make sure they do not do hanky panky things to cause traders lose money. If they did, file a complaint or dispute to the respective regulators for further investigation. Banks/brokers will get fine or license being terminated once they pledged guilty.

If XM hold a market maker license, then they have the right to be a market maker. If you have bad experiences with XM, feel free to share with us. Further to your comment, which LPs/brokers do not earn spreads? Honestly, we are not protecting XM as we get nothing, we are here to shares our experiences and knowledge about FX market. As usual, we will remove a broker from the genuine list even it is regulated but found that they have plenty of bad records.

Please do not trust unknown brokers when they tell you they are ECN or STP brokers. 99% are not true, it's sound nice in terms of marketing if you understand what i mean. If you trust fxcoluseum, try request for their liquidity providers trading statement where it can show that all their trades are actually forward to LPs. If they have nothing to hide, there is no issue for them to share monthly statements. However, these unregulated brokers usually will give you all kind of funny excuses not to show you.

Merry Christmas!

This post has been edited by DrFX: Dec 24 2016, 05:39 AM
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post Dec 24 2016, 04:29 AM

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QUOTE(Jack_1 @ Dec 24 2016, 12:36 AM)
Obviously, this topic can create a lot of enemies because it blocks faked broker/ introducer for targeting victim here. I have foreseen that many IB will attack the topic using many offensive words.

DrFx just don't give up !
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Expected. Thanks for the support, Jack.

Merry Christmas!
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post Dec 24 2016, 04:32 AM

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QUOTE(hideto79 @ Dec 24 2016, 12:50 AM)
Lol Jack you are the one who bring it out now you pretend to be good guy?
Just end the story all be good. Sorry to said DrFX cause your list genuine an scam is not 100% correct. MY BAD
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May be you are right. Probably not 100%, but at least 99%.
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QUOTE(hideto79 @ Dec 24 2016, 12:39 AM)
Good Morning DrFX, liquidity provider was recommend to jack right or someone else? seems it follow up to you. I wonder why you not listing up good LP which you can open account for forex too as genuine which is more 101% not a scam forex. Anyway let end this topic.

Have a good day and Merry Christmas.
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Hello hideto79,

Which liquidity providers are you talking about? If you are talking about big LPs like JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Barclays, Deutsche Bank or RBS, these banks usually required high opening deposit like USD500k and above for individual trader.

Our topic is about retail FX brokers, not liquidity provider. You actually find some good but medium scale liquidity providers on our list like Saxo Bank, Swissquote Bank, LMAX, etc.

Good night...
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post Dec 26 2016, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 24 2016, 04:40 AM)
Hello hideto79,

Which liquidity providers are you talking about? If you are talking about big LPs like JP Morgan, Morgan Stanley, UBS, Barclays, Deutsche Bank or RBS, these banks usually required high opening deposit like USD500k and above for individual trader.

Our topic is about retail FX brokers, not liquidity provider. You actually find some good but medium scale liquidity providers on our list like Saxo Bank, Swissquote Bank, LMAX, etc.

Good night...
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Nothing much to comment, let end it like I said no point to argue right? anyway you did very good job for certain point of my view keep it going.
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QUOTE(kEITh_22b @ Nov 15 2015, 06:53 PM)
I Googled & read through many user reviews about the following Forex brokers;

FxPro: Scam (Partial)

Brief explanation: Long term users complained that after using their trading platforms for (after) a 3-6 months period; the spread becomes manipulated by the broker (to become increasingly higher & higher) to make it harder for that long-term user to win trades anymore... Claimed to be not having True-ECN spreads as claimed by the broker (but manipulated spreads)...
IC Markets: Scam (potentially)

Brief explanation: Same problem as the above (FxPro), plus another issue; that some users experienced difficulty in withdrawing their profits or even getting paid back their capitals at all... Additionally, there were also user frustrations about suspicious bugs/technical glitches they experienced in the platforms that caused them to lose profits & even their capital (& they had problems in getting back any refunds)... Claimed to be not having True-ECN spreads as claimed by the broker (but manipulated spreads)...
Pepperstone: Scam (highly likely)

Brief explanation: Suspicious company that claims to be big with established superior technology, but it could in fact be just a lie; some users claimed that this company had used random photos of large governmental buildings & had superimposed their company's logo onto the facade of the building to claim it as their very-big/established company; it is also suspected that this company doesn't actually have any of those superior technologies that they are claiming to have... Last but not least, users were facing issues in withdrawals, plus experiencing the same problems as the above (FxPro & IC Markets) as well... Claimed by users to not have True-ECN spreads (but manipulated spreads)...
DUKASCOPY: Genuine & real but with some bad points

Brief explanation: Users are generally happy & satisfied, but with some complains about the trading platform being slow & kinda primitive (aka. low-tech)... In addition, users also did comment about the somewhat bureaucratic nature of opening an account (eg. some users' application were rejected, & some were facing extends of delays of the approval process; with requirements to produce more documents)... The broker is said to accept bank-wire transfers only (which may incur some cost % for each transaction amount)... A minimum of USD$5000 is required for opening a small (the smallest) Forex account with this broker...
Source: Based on Google-Search for user reviews of the brokers listed.

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I loled at your list

User reviews sometimes are biased and untrue, and it is no surprise if these so called reviewers comprised of IB's from other brokers

I often googled broker review at forex peace army, and there are some users who refuse to disclose their mt4 account ID (either by private message or publicly) even after being asked for many times - that means they are not real client

Brokers that you mentioned are highly regulated and audited by their own respective authorities and actively manage millions of trading contracts per month

Should any dispute arise, they will be heavily penalized by their regulatory bodies


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QUOTE(sharpshooter85 @ Dec 27 2016, 07:04 AM)
I loled at your list

User reviews sometimes are biased and untrue, and it is no surprise if these so called reviewers comprised of IB's from other brokers

I often googled broker review at forex peace army, and there are some users who refuse to disclose their mt4 account ID (either by private message or publicly) even after being asked for many times - that means they are not real client

Brokers that you mentioned are highly regulated and audited by their own respective authorities and actively manage millions of trading contracts per month

Should any dispute arise, they will be heavily penalized by their regulatory bodies
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post Dec 28 2016, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(DrFX @ Dec 24 2016, 03:39 AM)
Thanks for your reminder. The reason why BNM has such alert or warning is try to protect Malaysian from illegal Forex trading or scam FX, sadly they do not state the actual guideline of capital market. Trading Forex with well licensed FX brokers/banks is like buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers. If a Malaysian purchase Facebook shares or Apple shares through US licensed stock broker, is that considered illegal?

FYI, in 2017, Malaysia will start a new regulatory body called FMAM to regulate FX business activities. It's will take times to reach the standard of UK FCA or Swiss FINMA.

We trust the integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS, etc. They have the world standard of FX compliance rules & regulation and given the right protection to international investors.

When we talk about BNM integrity, you remind us of 1MDB case where the entire world pledged guilty on 1MDB fraud case but BNM closed the case easily.
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Huh? "Guideline to capital market"? What has FX got to do with the capital markets? Comparing FX trading to "buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers" is very very wrong my friend....

Retail FX is largely unregulated and open to abuse/manipulation, DrFX. It is a given. Name dropping self regulatory bodies and domestic regulatory bodies is pointless. The "integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS" will not protect you in any way.

If you are trading from Malaysia, you are subject to the FSA.
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QUOTE(exia5733 @ Dec 28 2016, 12:27 AM)
Huh? "Guideline to capital market"? What has FX got to do with the capital markets? Comparing FX trading to "buying foreign countries' companies shares through foreign stock brokers" is very very wrong my friend....

Retail FX is largely unregulated and open to abuse/manipulation, DrFX. It is a given. Name dropping self regulatory bodies and domestic regulatory bodies is pointless. The "integrity and international level of top tier regulators such us US NFA, UK FCA, Swiss FINMA, SG MAS" will not protect you in any way.

If you are trading from Malaysia, you are subject to the FSA.
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Thanks for your feedback, exia5733. We can see you have little idea what you are talking about. Thanks for keeping this thread active.

First of all, FX is part of capital markets if you have no idea and it's the biggest compare to equities, bonds, etc. So what is so wrong about trading FX? Both buying foreign shares and FX trading are with top tier regulated brokers/banks. Just because it is FX, so it is wrong? Or just because BNM said illegal, then you guys blindly follow and think it is illegal? Come on, wake up, my friend. This is 21st century, FX is a globalisation trading. Another example is the government said gambling is illegal except Genting, so why still so many international players walk into Sands casino in Singapore or other casinos in Macau or even Las Vegas?

Retail FX is largely unregulated? Clearly you do not know about the top tier FX regulations.
Open to abuse/manipulation? Unregulated brokers yes, top tier regulated brokers will get themselves into trouble if they do that. If you talk about FX market manipulation, i would surprise if there is no manipulation in local stocks market. brows.gif The losers will always find themselves some excuses.

You will have to find out more about the protection given to foreign traders/investors by international top tier FX regulation. If you talk about Australia ASIC, you are right. It does not protect foreigners. This is why it is considered tier 2 license. Tier 1 licenses giving protection to all foreign traders/investors.

Lastly, if you are trading FX from Malaysia locally (something like illegal money changer), yes you are subject to the FSA. But if you are trading FX ONLINE with licensed onshore banks/brokers, then you are not subject to the FSA.

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This post has been edited by DrFX: Dec 28 2016, 02:20 AM
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hello all, good morning

what about instaforex and midasama?

much appreciate, thanks alot

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