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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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zDarkForceSz
post Mar 17 2017, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 17 2017, 05:02 PM)
Imagine give shareholders door gifts of nuts and bolts...

Young lady from Investor Relations Dept speaking to old apek shareholder: "Nah unker, go screw yourself!" wub.gif

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Too bad I never know there's any lenglui at the front desk bangwall.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 20 2017, 10:45 AM)
This is how contango works.. it works for all commodity intermediate business (ie those who dont produce raw materials nor finished goods). Cocoa beans ->cocoa butter/mass -> chocolate consumer products

Lets imagine that the cocoa products is falling continuously for 3 months..

If you are a farmer/plantation.. you sure lose money, as your products matures and you cannot sell at good price. This one is easy peasy.  laugh.gif

If you are a intermediate producer, you must have some existing raw material in your factory and some existing finished good at warehouse. If the price of cocoa products fall continuously what will happen?

The raw materials you bought last time is much higher priced than current raw materials. Oops no 1.

The finished goods you have in your warehouse is produced using higher priced raw materials, and now the price is lower. So you will make less margin. Opps no 2.

Continuously getting Oops no 1 and Opps no 2, when ever they buy raw materials will be unsustainable.. for the profit  sweat.gif

If you are a consumer goods manufacturer, your intermediate product cost are getting lower each day, but those consumer products price is static, so you earn more.  thumbup.gif

So GCB is more of a intermediate producer although they have some manufacturing of consumer goods. Depend which one is higher percentage of sales. Unless of course if they hedge their cocoa prices (provided they hedge the product and not the raw materials, then results will be better, if they hedge the raw materials at higher price, then double kaboom)  whistling.gif

This works in reverse as well, look at how Petron benefit hugely from a reverse contango recently (oil price going up)  brows.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 11:19 AM)
Why today so much interest in logistics players like Century and TNam? hmm.gif
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Aiming for potential in e-commerce maybe?
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(dontlosecapital @ Mar 20 2017, 11:37 AM)
is there a link to check,
price of oil  and others raw material ?
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Investing.com
there you go

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post Mar 20 2017, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 11:58 AM)
Ini anything goes as make money responsibly forum. Open minded whistling.gif
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wa so chim... i read forwards read backwards still x faham... bangwall.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 20 2017, 12:07 PM)
Must be itu spider.. sudah intoxicated already...  laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 20 2017, 01:33 PM)
I remember one of you mentioned KESM. After reading its news in The Star last Saturday, I decided to take a quick look.

The good:
- Its profit growth in the last few years has been phenomenon.
- It's a manufacturer of automotive electronics, which has huge potential due to development of self-driving cars.
- PE is still ok.

However, I have some concerns:
- Unlike profit growth, revenue growth was much lower. Profit growth was largely down to flat cost, but is this sustainable?
- ROE was below 10% until 2015.
- Automotive electronics is a hot industry, so competition could get intensify. Does KESM have economic moat?

What do you guys think? Can enter?  unsure.gif
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If talking about self-driving cars, include 2 major component camera and sensor. We do have one company namely notion providing lenses to Canon and Nikon.
Wait for KESM to develop? Or NOTION better chance in supplying?

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 02:05 PM)
Oops sorry tongue.gif

I mean...

Ini anything goes as long as make money RESPONSIBLY forum...all open-minded geh thumbup.gif

Tadi typing without glasses on doh.gif
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No la. You're drunk just now.
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post Mar 20 2017, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 20 2017, 05:02 PM)
Transaction for the day

1.  Sold off MMSV by contra trading today. Profit at around 11.18%. It spiked to about 15.8% at 1.00 p.m. but I was too greedy to let go.

2.  Added SGCM to my portfolio today. It is up 2.15% today. The potential upside left is about 4.4% to 17.8% depending on which analyst you believe. This will be part of my long term investment portfolio.

3.  Gadang is a puzzle to me. The fundamentals look great and its wholly owned subsidiary Gadang Engineering was awarded the MRT2 project worth about RM950 million recently. It is trading at a discount but the share price is still down about -1.54% today.  confused.gif

4.  Ta Ann - it is inching upwards. I may sell it off soon.
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post Mar 21 2017, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 21 2017, 07:31 AM)
Bagilah chance boss. Amateur investor sure have a lot of stocks in the beginning.

I even plan to add a few more in the name of deworsification. 😃
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I also amateur. You think I started very long meh.
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post Mar 21 2017, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 21 2017, 02:12 PM)
You are all sifus here. Very few newbies like me. 
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Appear at here learning doesn't made one sifu...

unker gark itu sifu thats for sure notworthy.gif
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post Mar 21 2017, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 21 2017, 03:37 PM)
Tony...why u laosai cry.gif
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haha asking you to top-up. kapal terbang too heavy need to throw off some weak guy.
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post Mar 22 2017, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 22 2017, 08:34 AM)
Noted with thanks. I think I have a CD somewhere.
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You want easy job, then go i3investor create a portfolio lo.
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post Mar 22 2017, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(johnnyzai89 @ Mar 22 2017, 09:56 AM)
Red Red dayyy

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Not red enough also.
Want shopping also no target.
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post Mar 22 2017, 03:48 PM

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lol market green all people jump out. market sneeze abit all diam diam sudah.
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post Mar 22 2017, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(dontlosecapital @ Mar 22 2017, 04:23 PM)
regarding on warrant

for an example...
pmetal-wc

remiser dont want teach me..
sien...

let said..
i buy 10000 x pmetal-wc RM 2 = 20000

also holding like mother share t3 ?then choose pick up or not ?

then also can sell after 10% profit ?
what is the terms and condition ?,
can someone teach me ar ?
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Why you don't search around the forum????
Under LYN stock market FAQs & Guide, T+3, Dividends, commissions/fees, etc...:
- Part 5 - Warrants - The confusion, the headache and the frustration
- Part 6 - Warrants - How and when to trade warrants?

Now days got google, blogs and forums. Apa lagi susah? Is just you want or don't want to learn only. whistling.gif

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post Mar 22 2017, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 22 2017, 04:12 PM)
not me.

collecting this one:

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 22 2017, 05:13 PM)
I didn't buy it. I think I highlighted this stock sometime last month. It was also highlighted again by Chartist Picks (by Absolutely Stocks) this afternoon.

Unfortunately my Ta Ann shares fell today and nobody wanted to buy it. Otherwise I would gladly sell off Ta Ann and substitute it with UMCCA today. No ammo already. All ammo spent on GKent.  smile.gif

I hope some of the forumers here bought UMCCA. I am happy for you if you did. The TP is RM7.110 (by Kenanga).
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TGUAN also not bad mah.
their new machine perfoming brows.gif

I'm boring type. I collect cold cold stock... Move like tortoise yawn.gif

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post Mar 22 2017, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 22 2017, 05:59 PM)
UMCCA holder here  hmm.gif

But this is the smallest bet in my portfolio  ohmy.gif

kecik meow profit only  bangwall.gif  dry.gif
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kecik meow profit better than kecik meow loss right brows.gif
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post Mar 22 2017, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 22 2017, 06:03 PM)
My overall portfolio big loss today... so maybe not really particular excited about the 3% gain in UMCCA.
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Ooo then different story.
My portfolio shrink a bit today. But no big deals since I didn't anticipate to sell off any of my holdings any time soon...
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post Mar 22 2017, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 22 2017, 06:41 PM)
A timely reminder although I don't see this tactic being used here. Any forumers caught doing it should be castrated.  vmad.gif

Bursa warns of stock market manipulation with pump and dump schemes
PETALING JAYA: Just when the market has picked up steam with trading in stocks hitting high volumes, Bursa Malaysia has detected “pump and dump” activities circulating through the social media.

In a circular to the heads of dealing and compliance of stockbroking companies, the stock exchange said it discovered certain groups of market participants using the social media and Internet trading to carry out manipulative activities, which included pump and dump schemes.

The circular was exhaustive on how the manipulation was being carried out.

It said the operators of the pump and dump schemes, that are transacted through the social media, would typically begin by spreading false or misleading statements, news or rumours in investor blogs, chat groups such as Telegram, WhatsApp, WeChat, electronic bulletin board postings or online newsletters to entice or recommend unsuspecting investors to buy stocks which are touted as “hot” picks.

This, it said, was to facilitate the disposal of the stocks that they had accumulated earlier at higher prices.
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Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...p35Ik2lM8bMQ.99
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Are you sure??? I been hearing this since my secondary school days... yawn.gif

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