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 Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam

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gark
post Mar 17 2017, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Mar 17 2017, 03:37 PM)
So confused for newbie...I just realise nestle banyak mahal....Can recommend cheap fast growth div stock?

Haha
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You want CHEAP, but FAST GROWTH and DIV yielding stock.. rolleyes.gif

If you got lobang where to get some, let me know also.. tongue.gif

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post Mar 17 2017, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 17 2017, 05:18 PM)
If really Taliban Muslim then u should not invest in a beer stock in the 1st place la duh doh.gif

If modern/open-minded Muslim, others drink, u don't drink, ok lor

Not like they gonna force the beer down your throat la doh.gif
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If Carlsberg AGM.. is free flow drinking during AGM.... and give you RM40 voucher to buy beer to take home..

Dunno got employ bouncer or not for this AGM ... too many drunk shareholders innocent.gif

KLSE AGM door gift list here (not complete)..

https://durian.runtuh.com/t/what-are-the-fr...lse-fbmklci/333

http://bursadoorgifts.tumblr.com/

http://dividendmagic.com.my/category/agm/doorgift-goody-bag/


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Your AA very generous give RM 500 voucher.. (minimum 1k shareholding) brows.gif brows.gif

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gark
post Mar 20 2017, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 19 2017, 11:25 AM)
gark what do you think of GCB (5102)? the selloff doesn't justified by it's good QR, 25% div policy, high ROE vs PE ratio.

I think this chocolate got potential at current 90c.
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I have note research GCB before.. if it is a chocolate derivatives manufacturer/trader, then it will benefit from contango IF the price of cocoa products has been rising from the previous quarter. wink.gif

*Update*.. now I know why the selloff occurs.. does not look good, only saving grace is USD counter

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/05/cocoa-price...-chocolate.html

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If you are really interested, wait for it to break above $2100 and uptrend confirmed on cocoa prices.

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post Mar 20 2017, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 20 2017, 10:30 AM)
i guess i should be looking for the breakout for Cocoa Futures May Contract (CCK2017) for the trigger?
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If contract is going up in prices, means better news for GCB, but next QR is not going to be nice. sweat.gif

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post Mar 20 2017, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 20 2017, 10:37 AM)
shouldn't lower cocoa price leads to lower GCB's material costs hence improve margin? The demand is in the form of end of product chocolate should not be affected by commodity prices.

Imaging how much chocolate we humanly need to eat is not depending on the price of it right?
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This is how contango works.. it works for all commodity intermediate business (ie those who dont produce raw materials nor finished goods). Cocoa beans ->cocoa butter/mass -> chocolate consumer products

Lets imagine that the cocoa products is falling continuously for 3 months..

If you are a farmer/plantation.. you sure lose money, as your products matures and you cannot sell at good price. This one is easy peasy. laugh.gif

If you are a intermediate producer, you must have some existing raw material in your factory and some existing finished good at warehouse. If the price of cocoa products fall continuously what will happen?

The raw materials you bought last time is much higher priced than current raw materials. Oops no 1.

The finished goods you have in your warehouse is produced using higher priced raw materials, and now the price is lower. So you will make less margin. Opps no 2.

Continuously getting Oops no 1 and Opps no 2, when ever they buy raw materials will be unsustainable.. for the profit sweat.gif

If you are a consumer goods manufacturer, your intermediate product cost are getting lower each day, but those consumer products price is static, so you earn more. thumbup.gif

So GCB is more of a intermediate producer although they have some manufacturing of consumer goods. Depend which one is higher percentage of sales. Unless of course if they hedge their cocoa prices (provided they hedge the product and not the raw materials, then results will be better, if they hedge the raw materials at higher price, then double kaboom) whistling.gif

This works in reverse as well, look at how Petron benefit hugely from a reverse contango recently (oil price going up) brows.gif

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post Mar 20 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 20 2017, 11:02 AM)
Means confirmed.. intermediate producer.. sweat.gif

Now you can open annual report and check their hedging.. see got kaboom or not thumbup.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 11:19 AM)
Why today so much interest in logistics players like Century and TNam? hmm.gif
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Oil up.. logistics up... devil.gif

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post Mar 20 2017, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 20 2017, 11:23 AM)
gark in the similar fashion, from cocoa to aluminium, would you capitalize on rising aluminium price (ref: AL*2017 futures) by buying into Pmetal at currently retraced price of rm2.4 noting presence of previous day high vol?
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Yes already recommend Pmetal several weeks back.. next Q report confirm sui sui devil.gif

Not sure this forum or traders forum.. laugh.gif You can see the analysis there..

However price has gone up so much... so dunno still can enter or not. sweat.gif

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post Mar 20 2017, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(dontlosecapital @ Mar 20 2017, 11:37 AM)
is there a link to check,
price of oil  and others raw material ?
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Got.. just google oil price ka, aluminium price ka, gold price ka...

Use uncle google ler.. tongue.gif
gark
post Mar 20 2017, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 11:58 AM)
Ini anything goes as make money responsibly forum. Open minded whistling.gif
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Apa meaning.. dont understand ler.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 11:35 AM)
Lu jgn luan luan lai dry.gif
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Actually it is news that Alibaba confirm open REGIONAL distribution warehouse near KLIA. This will benefit all logistics company.. if jadi.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017...ub-in-malaysia/

This story can or not? tongue.gif devil.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Mar 20 2017, 12:05 PM)
wa so chim... i read forwards read backwards still x faham...  bangwall.gif
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Must be itu spider.. sudah intoxicated already... laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Mar 20 2017, 12:11 PM)
this morning kl raining, so i think he monday blue.
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Why so cute one.. laugh.gif Got cat picture.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 02:08 PM)
Can can can... tongue.gif

But but but...

Impossible to benefit ALL logistics players la...maybe selected few
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Which one has good connection and existing warehouses in China will be most likely winner. brows.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 02:38 PM)
I think TNam already has plans for that...China and Indochina warehouses
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Ini alibaba.. indochina gudang tarak guna. tongue.gif
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post Mar 20 2017, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 20 2017, 02:46 PM)
Now lu mabuk. I said CHINA AND Indochina dry.gif
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Sure no other logistic company with more cable at china? hmm.gif
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post Mar 21 2017, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 21 2017, 06:05 PM)
I just noticed that my Nestle stock also went up 4.16% today. If a slumbering giant like Nestle also can go up so quickly, is this a sign of a bull market coming?
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That one is nuts.. i think will drop back soon. Signs of market too hot is coming.

Unloaded tiger bank at 9 today, get some profit first. Will start unloading other stocks too gradually wink.gif

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post Mar 21 2017, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Mar 21 2017, 06:21 PM)
Sifu Gark, I see you are starting to sell off your stocks already. Are you planning to exit the market gradually and re-enter again once the market cools down?
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I exit when i see some stocks are over valued.. some i still keep. And some i sell because i have better fish to fry.
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post Mar 21 2017, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 21 2017, 10:21 PM)
Waiting for correction? You forgot your siggy?
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Sell tigerbank.. move to another stock..
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post Mar 26 2017, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Mar 26 2017, 10:18 AM)
gark given same industry, could this simply pick the lowest PE for best value? assuming their QR looks ok.
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Pick the one who will make more profit next year than this year. smile.gif

Same industry does not mean same business focus. Rough look i can see big difference in each counter.

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