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Investors Club V9, Previously known as Traders Kopitiam
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hehe86
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Nov 25 2015, 03:57 PM
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Question for a breakout scenario, let say you want to buy a stock if it breaks 1, would you buy once it breaks 1, which is 1.01/1.02 in any time or would you wait until near the market closing is above 1 then only you buy (around 4.45+)?
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Boon3
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Nov 25 2015, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 25 2015, 03:57 PM) Question for a breakout scenario, let say you want to buy a stock if it breaks 1, would you buy once it breaks 1, which is 1.01/1.02 in any time or would you wait until near the market closing is above 1 then only you buy (around 4.45+)? There's no straight forward answer.... cos you have to factor in the breakout volume... and also the momentum of the breakout....
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Boon3
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Nov 25 2015, 04:16 PM
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Look at SKPet.
It's range trading... What's the breakout point?
Where will you buy?
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hehe86
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Nov 25 2015, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 25 2015, 04:16 PM) Look at SKPet. It's range trading... What's the breakout point? Where will you buy? Hmm, need to take into consideration of volume and momentum... then most likely if i miss it, then i will have to buy few tics higher already... SKPet, need to see >400k units volume and above 2.25/2.26 lor
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Boon3
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Nov 25 2015, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 25 2015, 04:27 PM) Hmm, need to take into consideration of volume and momentum... then most likely if i miss it, then i will have to buy few tics higher already... SKPet, need to see >400k units volume and above 2.25/2.26 lor Nothing is ever precise. Find out what is suits you most.
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Boon3
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Nov 25 2015, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Nov 25 2015, 04:27 PM) Hmm, need to take into consideration of volume and momentum... then most likely if i miss it, then i will have to buy few tics higher already... SKPet, need to see >400k units volume and above 2.25/2.26 lor ..... and you do realize that there are traders who trades anticipating breakouts... risk of course.... the break out doesn't happen/instead of a break out, the stock breakdowns.... .... and how did you get the 225/226?
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TC-Titan
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Nov 25 2015, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 25 2015, 07:46 PM) ..... and you do realize that there are traders who trades anticipating breakouts... risk of course.... the break out doesn't happen/instead of a break out, the stock breakdowns.... .... and how did you get the 225/226? Haha tell him to paper trade laaaaaaa. Ish
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kevraul
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Nov 25 2015, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Nov 18 2015, 08:42 AM) HHgroup was highly recommended by me when the time was around 40cents plus. i bet on it just based on the unique sector which will lead the profit higher. Kueyteow bro, any takes on hhgroup? Already 25th and quarter report still not out. Any guess on its performance?
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hehe86
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Nov 26 2015, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 25 2015, 07:46 PM) ..... and you do realize that there are traders who trades anticipating breakouts... risk of course.... the break out doesn't happen/instead of a break out, the stock breakdowns.... .... and how did you get the 225/226? QUOTE(TC-Titan @ Nov 25 2015, 08:00 PM) Haha tell him to paper trade laaaaaaa. Ish  Lol! Well IMHO, if want to anticipate, might as well enter at near the range low lo and watch out for oil prices. At least that's how i will minimize my risk IF i want to anticipate the breakout.... lol Yea lo paper trade saja la
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gark
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Nov 26 2015, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 25 2015, 04:16 PM) Look at SKPet. It's range trading... What's the breakout point? Where will you buy? 1.70  Breakout came and gone already.. This post has been edited by gark: Nov 26 2015, 09:58 AM
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Boon3
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Nov 26 2015, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 26 2015, 09:56 AM) 1.70  Breakout came and gone already..   Trading is not for you hor.... This one was a simple range trading where one could easily pocket 2 times money.
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gark
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Nov 26 2015, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 26 2015, 10:00 AM)  Trading is not for you hor.... This one was a simple range trading where one could easily pocket 2 times money.  Say lah want range trading.. (which i dont do btw) Buy at<2.1 sell at 2.2 .. rinse and repeat..
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Boon3
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Nov 26 2015, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Nov 26 2015, 10:02 AM) Say lah want range trading.. (which i dont do btw) Buy at<2.1 sell at 2.2 .. rinse and repeat..   and bestest no need wait for 2018. 
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wodenus
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Nov 26 2015, 01:46 PM
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What do you guys think about the Pseudocertainty Effect? QUOTE Consider the following two stage game. In the first stage, there is a 75% chance to end the game without winning anything, and a 25% chance to move into the second stage. If you reach the second stage you have a choice between: E. a sure win of $30 F. 80% chance to win $45 and 20% chance to win nothing Suppose the dividend is 5.6%, and promo FD rates are 4.5%, so you have a choice between: (a) a sure win of 4.5% (b) 80% chance to win 5.6% and 20% chance to win nothing Why do people pick option (b) instead of (a) ?
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johnnyzai89
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Nov 26 2015, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Nov 26 2015, 02:46 PM) What do you guys think about the Pseudocertainty Effect? Suppose the dividend is 5.6%, and promo FD rates are 4.5%, so you have a choice between: (a) a sure win of 4.5% (b) 80% chance to win 5.6% and 20% chance to win nothing Why do people pick option (b) instead of (a) ? gambling attitude
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SUSPink Spider
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Nov 26 2015, 02:26 PM
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FD no potential for capital gain FD no growth, once mature u renew at current prevailing rate Stocks dividend can/may grow over time No risk, no incremental rewards Again, u dunno the fundamentals of stock investing. Guys, that troll kept asking the same questions over and over again. Then he will say X stock Y stock Z stock trades above Net Asset Value, why do people buy it? This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Nov 26 2015, 02:27 PM
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wodenus
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Nov 26 2015, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 26 2015, 02:26 PM) FD no potential for capital gain FD no growth, once mature u renew at current prevailing rate Stocks dividend can/may grow over time No risk, no incremental rewards Again, u dunno the fundamentals of stock investing. Guys, that troll kept asking the same questions over and over again. Then he will say X stock Y stock Z stock trades above Net Asset Value, why do people buy it?  You just have something against me.. that's proven already, you keep saying I say things I didn't say, then you say I'm trolling because you didn't like the things you say I said lol  BTW when have I ever asked this? or that other question?
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SUSPink Spider
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Nov 26 2015, 04:11 PM
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I get nothing from digging out the proof. U said it (it's bad to buy stocks that trade above NAV). Period.
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zDarkForceSz
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Nov 26 2015, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Nov 26 2015, 02:26 PM) FD no potential for capital gain FD no growth, once mature u renew at current prevailing rate Stocks dividend can/may grow over time No risk, no incremental rewards Again, u dunno the fundamentals of stock investing. Guys, that troll kept asking the same questions over and over again. Then he will say X stock Y stock Z stock trades above Net Asset Value, why do people buy it?   so susah go sell butt~
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TC-Titan
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Nov 26 2015, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ Nov 26 2015, 04:30 PM)  so susah go sell butt~ What's the ROI for your "sell butt" activities  Ada div yield bo? Sure Angpao wan ar?!  Ps: Pinky banyak rage lately. He needs more buckets of beer! This post has been edited by TC-Titan: Nov 26 2015, 04:58 PM
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