Hi, i want to know that is it easy for malaysian to find work at uk? Becos i plan to find my work at there and stay there. Any fresh graduates who study at uk as well and work at there please leave soemthing here as well as those who study local but go to uk and work.

my sis is working there

It depends on what position you are applying. There are some positions which are in demand right now. And do bear in mind that it is not impossible, but it is hard to get a job in UK.

I've friends who studied in the UK and got a job there. But it was really not easy to get one. They sent out at least 100++ resumes; only to got shortlisted, interviewed and finally hired.

Do you have the perseverance and patience? If yes, you stand a chance.

actually there is a new law in UK for foreigner worker..
where they must have degree in UK.

So if u graduate from here, its totally hard or maybe rejected..

http://www.workingintheuk.gov.uk/content/w...n/homepage.html

It's possible if you put in the effort to go write a proper resume. Spamming your resume doesn't really help if you do not have a good idea of what sort of jobs you're looking for and what sort of people they are looking for.

All the best to you.

Yes, spamming your resume doesn't help. Customise each and every resume of yours to fit in the requirements of the employer. Do not choose jobs for the sake of getting a job. Find one that is suitable for you.

Also you might try improving your English. You're not going to go very far in England if your English is bad

The newspaper article that came out last sunday states that it should be harder for Malaysians to work in UK under the HSMP (Highly Skilled Migrant Programme). Among the criteria are
a) Need 2 possess british degree/masters
b) speak good english
c) and i think must already earn at least �18k pa with current job.

I think the killer should be option c). Who makes that much in a year anyways (besides businessman)!

There is another way to come to work in UK, and that is through working permit applied by the UK employer on your behalf. It's no secret that alot of big 4 auditors in Malaysia has gone over to UK through this method. So if you are an auditor, you're in luck. If not, good luck. But there might be other means which I do not know of. Anyone care to share?

how about australia and canada. lotsa malaysians migrate there.

if uk company hire u and possible they send to to uk if u are good enuf? Still need to get degree at uk?

As far as I'm aware, you don't need one if your employer applies a working permit for you.

However, I must say that the application of a working permit is pretty lengthy and troublesome.

It all boils down to how much your employer wants you

come as a student, then find a job that can offer work permitt.

I agree with Geminist.

My suggestion would be complete your studies in UK and at the same time look for jobs, which accomodates what you studied. It's kinda better this way as you still have permit to stay in UK (until your student visa expires) to look for job.

Well, by looking at requirement ©, I guess they want experience prefessionals because only they (professionals) could earn that amount.

There are plenty of ways to qualify to work in the UK as you already know, like the HSMP and the SEGS, also the good old work permit.

Of course, if you aren't already in the UK, then the best option for you is to start working in MNC's that may someday send you to the UK.

I don't know much about the HSMP, but I can tell you that to qualify for the SEGS is real easy, as long as your course is "on the list". The list changes every year. New rules state that if you're pursuing a masters degree or PhD in the UK, you automatically qualify under the SEGS, whether you want it or not.

Finally, the work permit option. Now this is by far the hardest way to get a job, since the employer needs to:

1) Prove the job was advertised to locals for at least 4 weeks
2) Give reason as to why all the other applicants weren't suitable for the job.
3) Prove that the job cannot be done by a local even if provided with sufficient training.

And if you are currently studying in the UK, and want some work experience before coming home, there is the TWES. It allows you to work for 1 or 2 years in the UK with the understanding that you will leave the country once you're done.

Scotland and Ireland both have similar schemes as well, but in order to qualify, you must've studied in either Scotland or Ireland (obviously).

hey mate, What is TWES and HSMP? Is it all the courses that provided by uk universities can apply working visa within under these two terms? I am a final year student who is currently taking BSC transportation and logistics in portsmouth and i realised that my course is not under SEGS..so i am seeking other way to stay here after my study.

You don't need to look at HSMP if you're a fresh graduate.

http://www.ukimmigration.com/twes/uk_twes.htm <--- TWES

If you intend to stay here longer, TWES isn't the best option.

However, I'm sure your visa runs until Oct or a bit more next year. If you're keen on searching for a job, you should start now.

I started looking for work during this time of the year when everyone is busy partying about.

can i apply the holiday working maker to work in UK? Any one hav apply this b4?

Working Holiday Makers has been temporary suspended since 2md of April last year... so there is no hope on WHM for this moment...

Don't bother about Canada, you need the Canadian experience to work here.

It is hard to apply now. By the way, are you a student from UK U ?

Back to KL already..... My fren last 2 years apply WHM and now alr getting Wroking PErmit over there....will update you once got latest new about WHM

My cousin is currently working in Dublin, Ireland and she complain that the cost of living there very high. Every month the company deduct 1,000 Euro from her salary to pay income tax.

Anyway I don't know about UK though . BTW...some of you might not know but Ireland is not part of UK.

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This post has been edited by Empathy: Dec 20 2006, 07:18 AM

30% of your pay goes to income tax if you are single.

No...The suspension have been lifted...Am i right?

There is a website that shows some sectors in the UK that are in demand of employment which makes it easier to get jobs in them.

I remember there is auditing, civil engineering, pharmacy, etc on that list.

Does anyone still have that website?

This post has been edited by nicwise: Dec 23 2006, 12:06 PM

http://www.workingintheuk.gov.uk/working_i...cclist11_06.pdf

There is a more updated one but I'm in a hurry now.

part of Ireland is UK.... ie Belfast, northern ireland

I have a fren applying for HSMP and got rejected with this reason - He did not provide proof that Uni of Manchester teach him all in English

On the 2 April 2005 it was announced by the Home Office that the British High Commissions in Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Botswana and Namibia would cease to accept working holidaymaker visa applications until further notice.

UKvisas are pleased to announce that from 4 September 2006 we are now able to accept applications for working holidaymaker visas in Namibia and Botswana. The scheme had previously been suspended for operational reasons.

Not for Malaysia yet...but i think soon...hehe

And what happens if you're married or are an elderly citizen?.......

Working in UK is possible if you're in the rite area.. London is already flooded with eastern europeans and finding a jobs there is hard even for the locals there.

Go to smaller town and you may have a greater chance to land yourself a job. Furthermore, the cost of living is lower than london too...

cheers.

Work as what? As professional? There are quite a number of Malaysian working there but doing those non professional job such as waiter etc. To work as professional is a lot harder to get in especially if you degree is unheard of in UK. Either that they will pay you way below market rate which defeats the point of working there in the first place.

offer me job at uk

i have experience about computer hardware ansd sofware

especially

computer technician

Quite true. Lots of Malaysian actually goes there and works in restaurants. One of the reasons is that the job provides accomodation and also meals. Which in the end of the day, one can managed to save quite a alot.

However, there's some who managed to get some clerical job there. But then, these jobs dun provides wat the above does.

where're u now? Go register yourself at some job agency. Finding work in UK depends alot on "networking" and the job agencies is the best bet one can depend on.

cheers.

I think the suspension lifted last October.. a good news for those who wanna go uk to work..
nevertheless, it is more harder to apply than last time.. be aware.. those officers always try to look for reason to reject your application..

First what job u are looking for & what qualification do u have?
As published in the Star paper that with an MBA qualify is more easy to get job in UK....For your info, there is more job available for QA & civil engineering job...cos during my graduates in UK...mostly my frens in civil firms get the higher chances...
If u get local graduates & go to UK for job..i would say its more harder...
What u can try is nowadays UK have on job training....
Total course is 3 years...the 2nd years u will be on the job training(salary provide) & 3rd year will continue your course....after graduates u might have higher chance succeed there....
U must remember the employee need to provide a working permit(min 5 years) to employ you. This will incure a sum of money (5000 pound)...
For the employer to hire u...the employer require to answer for justification to the UK embassy why they recruit u as why not european or the local ppl.....From this u must be extraordinary person that able to do the job superb compare to their citizen...

Thats the comment i can give. For info i was in UK for abt 3 years by working 1 1/2 year in a factory...in the while loking for a profession job...but i failed & give up & come back to Malaysia....
GOOD LUCK

I just finished my studies in UK and I am going back to Malaysia to work. If you've built your career in Malaysia and you think you are capable of getting a job here due to your experiences then you can try but if you're a fresh graduate and can't prove that you're better than the british grads and Eu grads then I suggest not to risk coming here to find a job =). If you're planning to come to London to work. Think a hundred times first.
1. The competition here is high. The number of people coming in to London to work is massive. Not only Malaysians, there are plenty from Europe under European Union, Australians, South Africans, Canadians, Chinese, Malaysians, Nigerians and the list goes on. Brits will alway prioritize Brits and Europeans.
2. You will end up getting a very big pile of rejection letters
3. You will spend a lot of time here. My friends used at least a year or two to get a job here and they are First Class honours students and also engineering students. You will have to be good enough for them to apply a work permit for you.

But its different if you have a Highly Skilled Migrant Visa or Holiday Makers Visa. Holiday Makers Visa or HSMV you are entitled to work here so companies do not have to apply work permits for you. My friends applied with Student Visa so it was tougher.

Work Permit Application = 190GBP
Advertisement = 400 - 1000 GBP (depending on situation)
Admin fee to gather all relevant document = ~ 1000 GBP (this is a significant overestimation)
Further Leave to Remain Application (Premium Service) = 590GBP

Total is less than 5000GBP. Just to clarify, where did you get this number from? Do you mean application through an agent?

The minimum period of a work permit is 6 month IIRC and 5 year is the maximum.


1) Competition gets you going. Do you want to work with excellent people so you can force yourself to improve?

2) What's wrong with rejection letters? At least you tried. Just because you are worried that you might get a huge pile of rejection, you stopped applying?

3) You will need to spend the same amount of time even if you're back in Malaysia and Singapore. First Class does not mean you get a job. Everyone will still need to go through the same process and also, there are loads of First Class out there, even from exceptional universities like Oxbridge.

4) It's not impossible for someone to get a job in UK. If you know what you want, start early to look for job and various opportunities out there.

5) Despite giving priorities to Resident Worker, people like Malaysians or Singaporeans have an advantage as well. It is your language skills as you at least speak three native language.

I dont think they will let u work in UK. There are new rules, they give priorities juz to the EU people to work. Non-EU people usually needs visa and contract. Once the contract has finished, u will be sent home.

Yes, they have rather strict rules when it comes to such things. You will have to demonstrate the reason why you employed the non EU applicant and not the EU applicant.

If you are granted a 5 years work permit, you can apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain (PR) after the 5th year.

Alternatively, you can chose to extend your working permit.

hello ,

had any of u all worked in new zealand as fruit-picker b4 ?

pls share yo experience .............

You got offer there ? I heard the salaery is quite good. ranging rom RM4k to 8k

Working professionally in UK is possible but you have to have a good British degree, at least 2nd upper. Unlike Malaysia, you will be given more consideration if you have PhD or master degree. A fresh PhD engineer can earn as much as GBP 30k (about RM200k) annually. If you are a PhD student and your supervisor is famous enough to recommend you to the related industry, your chance to get the job is very much higher.

It will be pointless to work 'non-professional' job in London because the living cost will eventually consume most of your pay, unless you are a tight saving person who always stay at home and able to endure no entertainment.

It also depends on luck. Some of my UK friends got their job before they even graduate their PhD but some have tried their luck more than 1 year after their graduation. I mean the professional engineering job here. For non-professional job, not a worry, part-time are plentiful but not always pleasant.

Good luck then. Hope that helps.

This post has been edited by freshyyf: Apr 3 2007, 08:25 AM

Some people like to convert the pound back to malaysian ringgit and claim how attractive it is. But what's the point of converting when your expenses are in pounds as well.

you earn pounds and spend pounds in uk.. you can save some money.. unless you are those spend a lot.. if not.. one month you can at least save few hundred pounds.. cos groceries in uk is kinda cheap.. just that rental and transport are expensive... and if you eating outside all the time.. forget about save money..

i spend around 10-15 pounds on my food every week.. i think in malaysia you cant survive with only rm10-15 on food for one week..

just my 2 cent..

10-15 pounds every week only?? Oh My God! I have to learn cooking... i am so stupid I spent like 50 pounds for food only... errgghh!!

I think you need to live and enjoy life a bit more

i do enjoy my life here.. i share food with my another 4 frens actually.. every night we have at least 3 dishes for our dinner.. sometimes we have dessert and stuff...

seriously cooking at home can save alot.. if you eat outside, one meal at least costs you 3-5pounds.. and if you work part time here during your study.. you can cover your living expenses.. their basic pay for part time job now is 5.35pounds..

I spend most of my money on fruits. Lolz. Yes transportation is very expensive. Btw Geminist I don't spend the same amount of time people spend here to get a job back in Malaysia. I've already gotten offers from Malaysia before my return. As for here, been attending UK Career and Education fair and organizations have stated clearly they will not apply work permits for non EU or non Brits. It depends on the type of positions you want and what they can offer to non EU or non Brits. Its difficult but I never said that its impossible however I'd rather be building a career back in my own country before thinking about overseas. I've had working experience here with part time jobs and I don't think that its all that great here. Just a personal opinion. I know it isn't based on your qualifications but qualifications does play a major role in whether you are worth their investment on you or not.

How much more difficult (or easy) is it to get work in the UK compared to the US?

You lot spend too much. Someone I know spends around �1 a week on dinner...

Quite true too.. but nasi goreng in malaysia = rm3, fried rice here = �3. typical entry job in malaysia maybe ard 1/2k and for uk = �1k/2k.

sounds the same right.

but there are some difference in some item. malaysia new savvy = 50k, uk vauxhall
corsa = �7000. malaysia ipod 30gb = �1.4k+- (not sure), uk ipod 30gb = �200

you earn quite the same, the expenses for food and living is quite the same, but some item is just more worth it if you earn and buy it here.

�1 for whole week? or �1 per dinner? eat bread every dinner then!

I spend abt �2 per dinner sometime. Tapao chinese takeaway food �3.70, divide into two portion, boil rice at home myself = 2 meals hence abt �2 per meal. else just abt �10-50 for grocery too.

It depends on what you study to get a job. I managed to secure a job before graduation, so pretty good for me.

This post has been edited by youngkies: Apr 4 2007, 07:10 PM

One way is to apply to UK company that has a branch in Malaysia. That's what I did, I applied for a job with a company based in the UK (Oil and Gas company) and I'm going to be based in Gatwick, London.

Oh, for the whole week. Okay maybe not �1, more like �2. And no, that person has a very well paid job.

Not too hard, just eat instant noodle and plain bread. You can achieve the same even in Malaysia.
However if you have to go such extremes to save money then what's the point of workign there?

I used to studied in Hertfordshire,UK. I manage to use 10 pound for a week. eat and cook @ home. Save alot. As for working, you chances to get a permenant job is quite hard as for IT Grad. for engineering, then is diff case. If you study civil engineering, then ur chance will be higher since they going to host olympic, they need alot of engineers there.

As for part time job, the pay is quite good. for example, my friend worked in Tesco during holiday, they paid 7 pound per hour. but work like the bangla here. hahahah.

10pounds per week including rental ?

you studied in Hertfordshire? which campus?
I studied there too...

Beats me. That person earns somewhere around �50k, and yet chooses to eat chicken nuggets for dinner everyday.

he/she must be saving hell-lot.

what i found out of me, the more i earn/work, the more i spent. work harder, eat better.

Maybe, the person realize that there is NO JOB SECURITY and job will not last forever. So, he/she is saving up to retire early in Malaysia.

Dreamer

Which comapny? I am now looking for industrial placement.. gonna graduate this july.. but no work experience at all.. this is really worrying me.. so think of looking for placement to gain some experience instead of a job.. any recommedations?

If you ask me, there is a difference between choosing to skimp on luxuries and skimping on basic nutrition.

You mean you will be in UK soon ? You get paid in pound ?

anyone here knows of any job vacancies there is in UK? ur help is appreciated.

Hey is it hard to find a job there for IT degree student with good programming skills?

is this thread still alive?
just wanna ask... if work there, when wanna come back malaysia.
how you gonna bring all the money back?

I think it is still alive. Just post your question here and i'm pretty sure there will be a lot of related people replying your question. If you want to come back to Malaysia, you can transfer your money from any bank in UK to the local bank in Malaysia. Besides that, you can also convert your money into bank draft and just bank into your account in Malaysia when you're back.

Opps, I haven't been in this thread for so long.. didn't realize there was a question directed to me.

Yeah, I'll be doing my office assignment in Gatwick, London. Unfortunately since I spend most of my time offshore I get paid in US dollars . But my housing expenses will be paid for while I'm there and the office is just a short tube ride away so I guess I don't really have a lot to complain.

You're replying a 3 months old posting. I hope the guy still read your reply

tranfer? whats the fee? or interest...
and Malaysia government let ppl to bring in so much money from other country?
if the guy work there 10,20 years and manage to save 1million pound.. meaning he will bring in 7 million ringgit.. wow

he won't be coming back to msia that's for sure

Transfer fee about 20pounds with current exchange rate apply.

i will come back malaysia if i'm there less than 5 years..
if more than that i think i can apply PR and live the life there ... EPL every week.. lol...

EPL every week ? No need to work ar ?

alots of ppl dont work on weekend in malaysia as well ma...
i'm sure Uk got job that dont have to work on weekend or at least not the match hour..

Some time got two matches per week. One on Saturday and the other match on Tuesday. Then you still ned to take at least one day off per week

overseas in UK, US & OZ all got strong labour union wan ... so no worry ......

a few of my friends worked in UK but later come back to Msia. My ex GF worked there and now working in Dubai (same salary in UK but no tax and +1k pounds for accomodation + transport)...

One of my friend said, the UK government is trying their best to tax you and London living expenses is too high to live and not much disposable income left... but he is happy when he watched the football match live.

Your ex-gf so smart ar ? What is she doing in UK and Dubai ?

Guys, I will be offered a job to work in London briefly. My employer will get his lawyer to process the work permit application. However I would like to know...

(i) how long does it take for my employer to get me a work permit?
(ii) If they offered me a job, and I signed the offer letter before my employer gets the work permit approved and later found out that the work permit application is rejected. What's worse if I tender my resignation, how will this be?

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Added on October 1, 2007, 11:55 pm

I've just got the offer and will accept it officially tomorrow to allow my future employer to proceed to hire professional service to apply for a work permit for me.

I'm still worried now cause the offer is not offcially valid until I got my work permit. But the manager said that since I hold a UK degree, since they advertised for many weeks and still could not find a proper candidate, and my job is of high demand in UK, they said the application should be quite easy.

Anyone has gone through the whole work permit application before?

Simon

This post has been edited by simon_wks: Oct 1 2007, 11:56 PM

after reading from page 1 to 5, i've realised most people prefer to come back to msia to work after they grad from uk.

as for me, i came back last month and still thinking whether should i head back to uk and find a permanent job!! (regretted that i didn't put more effort into finding a job after i grad)

it's really frustrating knowing the Brits prefer EU citizens instead of Asians. at least, they give them priority rather than us.

so, i was thinking... should i or should i not head back?! or just stay back in msia and find a job here instead??

thanks

This post has been edited by triangle-sun: Oct 30 2007, 08:58 PM

What job do you have in mind?

I don't see the harm of trying to find a job in the UK, why not go for it?

i'm a logistics Bsc grad in uk. i understand that this isn't a specialized job and it will be a risk to take to go all the way to uk and find a job there.

visa for a year will cost about RM1440 + plane ticket etc etc.. if i can't get a permanent job there i'm screwed (it'll be wasting a year worth of time). but maybe like u say, it's worth a try?

i've also tried using those uk agencies to hunt for jobs and they are usually reliable. but the thing is, i got rejected twice (even got an interview with BAT for the 1st round only and got rejected after that. pretty sad)!! so i can sort of see how slim my chances are.

i seriously have no confident and i'm also quite dependant but based on my parent's point of view, when i have this sort of chance i should grab it and just go for it. MOST of the people do not get chances like this!!

but it's always a dilemma of myself not getting a job there

of cos try ur very best to find experience and work in UK .... if all fails then your final resort would be to come back to msia or u could try aussie, sg or others etc ......

I would still say go for it.

I think you are eligible to apply for this itnernational graduate scheme ya?

By all means, take the chance and have no regrets. Even if you are able to work only for a year, I'm sure that experience would be valuable when you come back to Malaysia.

I have seen examples where people started with SEGS (international scheme equivalent) and the company applied for a work permit for them later. I am one of these people.

Also, hopefully this would encourage you. I have attended quite a few interviews with lots of rejections but I was able to secure two offers from reputable companies. It's really about interview experience where at some point, you can prepare well enough to cover the whole process.

Really, try your best. There are websites like milkround/propsects which provide a lot of oppurtunities.

This post has been edited by Geminist: Oct 31 2007, 01:42 AM

yup!! i'll be applying for IGS.
well, i guess it all depends on my determination and how independent i am.

just a little worried bout me being unemployed for an entire year *touchwood*. but really, i have to take into account what am i going to do if there isn't a job opportunity for me.

it is indeed a high risk to take.

I'd like to advise you to do a lil' reseach on the available jobs, usual job requirements, average salary, et cetera before you go into the UK.

I recommend you to use this job searching site http://www.i-resign.com/uk/jobseekers/ which helped me to secure my job in UK.

Besides, it's nice to sign-up to http://www.monster.co.uk (similar site to jobsBD, jobStreet) which a few employment consultants viewed my CV and contacted me.

All the best to you!

This post has been edited by simon_wks: Nov 1 2007, 08:17 PM

May I know how long it takes to get IGS and the amount to fork out?

RM1440 if u apply in msia and lasts for a year and takes about 5 days to process or even faster depending.
600Pounds if u apply in uk and will be done on that day if i remember correctly.

u'll have to apply within 12 months the moment u graduated in the uk.

for more information, i reckon u should call up

thanks heaps for the information.
might just end up in uk afterall

This post has been edited by triangle-sun: Nov 1 2007, 10:00 PM

let say i am not UK grad but eligible for high skilled migration, should i contact agents instead?
any contacts that i can get?

Would someone from the UK confirm if the taxation braket is true? I mean if you salary per annum is higher than 34,600 pounds, you will be tax on the 40% bracket.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_Kingdom.

hmmm i really dun understand y peeople keep saying its hard to get a job in UK...my fren went there, applied for a few jobs, within 2 weeks oredi got hired by HSBC UK......she sez IT field dem lotsa positions leh.....are u guys looking at the wrong place when finding a job? (But she was there laa when she applied for the jobs, btw contract jobs are paying much much higher than permanent jobs....)

Yes, that is right. Although the brackets shift annually with inflation, but not by much. Come April 6th, the 10% bracket will be removed and taxation will just start from 20% till the higher 40% rate.

On top of that, there's also National insurance and Council tax to fork out. UK government has also recently announced an increase in council tax (depending where you live, for example London will be just under 2%). Energy prices has also increased over the new year, with various providers announcing 7-15% hikes.

It is a depressing time to be earning pounds with GBP exchange rates and UK interest rates dropping.

hmm...so much so how much taxes n etc one gotto pay from their salary? Whats the nett salary after all deductions? Dun sound very good working in UK at all...unless illegally...

Well it's not all that bad working in UK, if you're thrifty you can afford to safe a fair amount even though you're slapped with taxes left, right and centre. Oh, I missed out the 17.5% VAT in UK.

But to answer your question, a Graduate trainee in Accountancy for example; will earn approximately a gross salary of �22k p.a. The net salary after income tax and national insurance would be just shy of �1.4k per month.