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post Mar 22 2017, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(orangbulu @ Mar 21 2017, 01:16 PM)
Think you should put the pay in sgd for a better comparison.
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Conservatively, around SGD4k per month. It's consider average I'd say. Some if not all of my friends are earning more than that.
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post Apr 10 2017, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(kira001 @ Apr 10 2017, 11:04 AM)
Job Title : Specialist
Job Description : drive the process efficiency
Years spent in company : 1.5
Company : MNC
Industry : FMCG
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Senior
Experience before joining : 3
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bsc
salary : RMB 20k
Location: Beijing

The greatest decision that I made ever is decided go to shanghai couple of years ago. Now going to resign in this summer and decided pursue MBA in one of world top 10 business school - targeted RMB 500-600k annual package after graduate.
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How do you get in touch with the company? I tried using Linkedin but then no avail since then. hmm.gif
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post May 18 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(21cAndrew @ May 15 2017, 04:22 PM)
Job Title : Assistant Accounting Manager
Job Description : Monitor and managing the team
Years spent in company : 5 years
Company : Chinaman Company
Industry : Retail
Employment Level : Entry Level
Experience before joining : None
Highest paper qualification / education background : Diploma / ACCA in progress
Salary Increment History (Excluding Oversea allowances) :
Year 2012 - RM2,500
Year 2013 - RM2,900
Year 2014 - RM3,100
Year 2016 - RM4,500
Year 2017 - RM4,800
Yearly Bonus : Depends, at least 1 month
Benefit : Lodging & Transport included
Location : Oversea
Age : 27

Consider RM4,800 as my basic gross pay, am I in line with the market rate ?
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Why hop suddenly from RM3100 to RM4500? Got promoted? hmm.gif
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post May 19 2017, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(Dash17 @ May 19 2017, 01:07 AM)
Job Title : Test Technician
Job Description : Back End Testing, Support Production.
Years spent in company : 7 Months
Industry : Manufacturing, EMS
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry Level
Experience before joining : Nil
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Dip. in Electronic Eng
Salary : RM 1600
Location: Penang

Was thinking should I jump ship or wait it out till 1 year ?
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Wait till one year. Yes the salary is very low. But you definitely need the experience to boost your portfolio and working experience. Once you hit 1 or 2 year mark, you have more bargain power to demand more salary after the things you had learn in this company.
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post May 19 2017, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(jamescal @ May 19 2017, 08:54 PM)
Jumping back in (I usually just lurk lol) to update

Lompat to new place, managed to secure 25% more - tried to push for 30-40 but low years of exp against my favour. This despite the fact that I am extremely qualified (serious - I know my industry) for the role, well-recommended by a manager there (former colleague) and I know the new place is desperate for people to handle this function (now memang babi buta).

Sifu-sifu who achieve banyak $$ at younger age, how do y'all push for that harder knowing the company (esp fuddy-duddy ones with bureaucratic HR) will always counter with your experience? imho years does not always equal capability or talent.
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Wow previous edi 6k, another 20% is gonna be above 7k edi. Good job bro!

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post May 20 2017, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(Dash17 @ May 20 2017, 09:59 PM)
Yea, will wait it out till 1 yr. Was thinking of trying SG after 1yr.
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Hate to break it to you but don't put so much hope on SG jobs. Now many retrenchment going on and many Malaysians come back work edi. I suggest you search both side, then which got offer then you can consider from there. Good luck bro! flex.gif
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post May 23 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(NicoRobinz @ May 23 2017, 07:14 AM)
Seeing you all have very high salary when experience is about the same as me makes me feel pretty bad about myself.

Company also announced no increment this year due to bad economy and company doesn't make much profit. sad.gif

Can't really say that I work super hard, but i managed to finish all my job despite we are now in short of staffs. Even the higher management think i did a good job and constantly get compliments. that doesn't earn me higher salary but more work and need to stay back for important meetings without OT.

Sometimes the meeting can last for almost two hours. My working hour is 9pm -6pm and there are times i need to stay back until almost 8pm. Even some of the staffs work at 10pm - 7pm already balik.

I come late to work and got cut RM20. Zzzzz....

Feel very demotivated right now.

on the bright side, i can listen to music while doing work. otherwise, i would have run way.
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Don't feel bad about it. I believe everyone needs to feel being demotivated and depreciate in order to succeed in future undertakings.

I have also been in bad situation before, Chinaman company for 1 year +. I tahan and tahan. I tahan and at the same time I find better opportunity to jump. I managed to find 28.6% increment for my next job. So don't feel bad about yourself. Learn as much as you can, pick up new skills if you given a chance. You'll be grateful for that when new opportunity comes along.

QUOTE(ThisWorldisWeird @ May 23 2017, 09:38 AM)
Job Title : Communication Representative
Job Desciption : Communication & Digital Marketing
Years spent in company : 8 months
Company : P&C
Industry : Digital Marketing
Tenure : n/a
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : 0
Highest paper qualification/ education background : BA Comm, MA English
salary : RM2800
Location: PJ
Age:24

Seeing the trend here, plenty of IT and Engineers with great opportunities.
Wonder what can I do to be successful? I know my study field has been a mistake, but no use regretting it now..
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If you have knowledge in digital marketing, don't feel bad. You are the future for our generation! World is changing right now. Every company needs digital marketing. If you have DM knowledge, pick up more and learn more. My friend who is in DM field, his salary almost 7k every month now. Go office do some coding, maintenance server, then sit there goyang kaki and do freelance. laugh.gif

QUOTE(harizdesu @ May 23 2017, 10:33 AM)
i am happy and not happy at the same time.. i feel like there is nothing motivates me anymore.. the company also is not doing well..
the only thing that motivates me is to see my friends there.. and earn to support my family..

i'm not sure about the career progression but seeing it as a bigger company, maybe career progression is better..
i dont mind about the location, is not that far.. only 30km from my home..

but the benefits are quite similar to my current company..
and only offers very little increment.. u would be sad to hear it lol
i can say that, the differents from my current salary 2.8k to the new offer 3.15k, is 2 years increment in my current company sad.gif
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Not good enough IMO. Find at least 20% salary increment. And don't forget, you will need some time to adjust your life in new company. Would you want to jeopardize your current job for 12.5% increment? Not worth the risk IMO.
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post May 23 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(ThisWorldisWeird @ May 23 2017, 11:01 AM)
Thanks but I don't do coding though, I'm more on the content & marketing survey side  sad.gif
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Then you should consider to pick up DM now since you are still fresh. Any knowledge on DM while you at college? Try to pick it up now by asking your friends, read DM books, attending the course. Your salary can be boost alot.
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post May 23 2017, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(ThisWorldisWeird @ May 23 2017, 11:16 AM)
Do I need IT knowledge for that? I'm almost nil when it comes to coding and stuff
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IT knowledge not really. But you definitely need to know some basic IT stuff. You can check with your friends who work as DM.

QUOTE(harizdesu @ May 23 2017, 11:20 AM)
if the new company can offer better increment and bonus, is it still not worth?
salary wise, let say, my current company offers only rm100 increment for these few years..
the new company can offer more than that..
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How long you need to wait for raise and bonus?? You need to justify it yourself by doing the calculation. Like my case; I left before increment. But I justified myself by checking both side salary and the bonus that I can get if I stay with the company.

If you want some guideline, better get at least 15% increment.. Else really no good to jump. Cause you cannot assure that you can get along with the people there. Like my case. sad.gif
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post May 23 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(harizdesu @ May 23 2017, 02:22 PM)
thats my only concern now, increment and bonus.. my current company cannot offer high increment and bonus (last 2 years was ex gratia sad.gif )
the new company can, from what i heard.. got bonus at least 1 month and increment is higher..

but its contract thou.. a bit risky i think.. need to pray a lot so that i can be absorbed to permanent..
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Yes. Another reason of me not taking contract is because is too risky. If the company decided not to take you in, you need to find another job. For me is all about stability, salary, career growth, immediate superior and of course the management.
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post May 25 2017, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(zapdos9 @ May 25 2017, 11:08 AM)
Hi guys, I would like to hear what's your opinion on jumping ship increments. I see the increment more than 20% is only worth jumping. So the increment is based on your basic salary only or do you include your fixed allowance in the calculation also?
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Look for only basic increment on 20% or above. Other allowance take it as bonus cause not every company will give you that.
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post Jun 4 2017, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Jun 4 2017, 07:52 PM)
I asked for a 100% increment in one of the interview I attended, with some other perks that are not norm. They are lacking people to fill the role. The department head and his director both are fine with it, the HR made some noise saying its not the company policy to raise so much from the previous salary. End up many ding dong HR offered a 80% raise but other company offered me a job with better prospect so I turned it down.

From what I see is the value one could bring into the company, not what his previous salary was. Never know what's the reason behind the HR's approach.
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Mind to share what field and your expertise?
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post Jun 5 2017, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Jun 5 2017, 10:18 AM)
Construction. Previous job was underpaid. Hence the increment % is quite high.
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Now should be alot better since Malaysia is going to develop heavily. Positions like marketing still pretty much stagnant at this stage. cry.gif
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post Jun 15 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Pandasu @ Jun 15 2017, 11:32 AM)
Job Title : Tenancy Executive
Job Description: Managing mall operation
Age : 26
Years spent in company : 0
Company : --
Industry : hospitality
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : (exp not related to this field)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree in Advertising Design
salary : RM 2.7k
Benefit : Lodging, food allowance & medical
Con: work 24 days straight

unsure.gif what do you guys think?
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Can push higher. I am doing something similar to you right now. Which company you at? hmm.gif
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post Jun 16 2017, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Pandasu @ Jun 16 2017, 03:26 PM)
For fresh start they said that's the highest already.  sweat.gif
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Everyone is facing the same thing. Haha, but which company you at? Or which field? Mall or other industry? hmm.gif
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post Jun 18 2017, 10:39 AM

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That's why never take the salary information in this thread so serious. Yes some might be providing real salary but always take it as pinch of salt.

And don't bother your salary with other individual with different field. First of all, different field, the salary definitely have difference; supply demand of the workforce, etc. Only compare yourself with another individual with same/similar field. wink.gif
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QUOTE(shyuwvcg @ Jun 24 2017, 05:35 PM)
Job Title : Marketing Exe
Job Desciption : Oversee business performance and develop marketing activities
Age:27
Years spent in company :1.5
Company : MNC
Industry : IT
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : 1.5
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Bachelor degree in Marketing
salary : 3,800
Location: KL

Any comment? underpaid? overpaid? Average?
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Pretty good. I'm earning SLIGHTLY more than you but I'm at age 30. By the time you reach my age I guess you might be able to hit 5k mark. wink.gif
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QUOTE(xdyxrixzmxn @ Jul 4 2017, 10:18 PM)
Should i do a calculation? Maybe a bit could help.

Basic 1k (26xrm38.48, pay by day)
Add on minyak moto allowence rm50
Overtime sometimes have sometimes dun have.
Restday sometimes can work, sometimes cannot.
Get advance on 20hb every month rm200
Gross salary cincai rm1100
Minus rm200 advance, minus epf socso rm70-100
Net salary, rm800-900.

Palm oil mill. General worker. Lowest level.
Wan buy 2nd car sometimes also difficult. But have proton wira buy cash.
Eventho im not married yet, well, also hve commitment for helping family. Idk lah bro. 4 years i live with this kind of work. Had continue study before, but family cond making me and all members suffer bcs that time only my fathers work and only him have to support 6 ppl (mom, me and other 4 sibling) with that kind of salary. I cant think abt study and just failed and come back home to work and reduce burden. Idk lah bro. Sometime im envy with ppl who hve a good salary. I wish i hve a good pay too. But ppl only with spm sure gonna have a bad time to find a good work with a good salary. Exp without cert is hard you know.
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No cert is not an issue as long as you know your passion and strive hard to work on your passion. I also without cert since I only graduated from SPM and didn't manage to graduate from college. But try to sharpen your skills and what you know into generating income from it. You'd be surprise how far you can go.

Offer service, offer your skills to people who need your expertise.
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post Jul 5 2017, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(honesty tan @ Jul 5 2017, 04:27 PM)
The thing is, Cert is still important as the deciding factors comes from Employers (they are the decision makers). Unless, the skills are applied in Entrepreneurship. I have seen many cases for those without certs or just diploma, they actually perform better than Degree graduate. However, their pay is limited by the scale / system hence no way for them to grow further till they advanced the studies. Cruel but real in many MNCs.  blush.gif
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Yes that is one sad truth that is happening in Malaysia. We are still developing country hence many things we still based on paper instead of looking at skills and ability to solve problem. But many entrepreneur are going to the bold move, going the daring line and start to use people with caliber instead of certs.

I am about to get my double degree soon. Let's hope everything goes well. Been 3 years I suffer without a degree to find a job. But my hardwork pays off. Got into a big retail company in Malaysia. Bersyukurlah for what I got and what I've been through.


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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Jul 9 2017, 03:13 PM)
Hi all, I need some help here.

I am technically not a fresh graduate (graduated in June 2015), but for 2 years I worked in a non-profit organization as executive level, one year in Malaysia and one year overseas. Both years salary were way below average (below RM2000) because I mainly work for my self development and contribution.

Now I am finishing and going for a "real" corporate job, and since I am not really a fresh grad, how should I tell my expected salary?

My concerns below:
1. Even though I have 2 years working experience, it's in a youth-run non-profit so it's not giving me the same experience as working in companies, so I can't say I am better or same level as others who worked for 2 years.
2. Even so, I wish to apply some jobs that are not targeted for fresh grad with 0 experience, because I want to challenge myself more and I think I can cope with it quickly (then, it comes to concern #3 below).
3. Since my past 2 jobs gave me low salary but I am applying for non-fresh-grad jobs, how should I tell my expected salary? Some jobs I am applying are offering RM4k and above, should I tell my expected salary as fresh grad (2.7~3k?) or just slightly below the estimated offer (3.5k)?

Thanks in advance for your help!
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You can try applying jobs that are doing what you did in previous work. Something like sustainability or corporate social responsibility. Then you can ask for the salary you deserves without thinking if your experience could put to use. wink.gif

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