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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (12) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2) 2015 Beat Aston Villa 4-0
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
South East Counties League 1991
FA Youth Cup 1966, 1971, 1988, 1994, 2000, 2001
Southern Junior Cup 1956, 1971, 1984, 1991, 1998
This post has been edited by rifasha: Nov 26 2015, 03:39 PM
arsenal fans rilek je kalah. We already expected a youth outing and whatever comes out of it we'll take it..
Maybe Chelsea fans have to take mickey cup seriously cause their season is not going well for them. But then that also they lost... Oh waii
Eden Hazard missed penalty? Hazard>Alexis, they say........ Hazard deserving PFA player of the year they said... Nak muntah jew.
Last 5 posts from previous thread:
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Oct 28 2015, 03:54 PM)
semua Salah wenger
QUOTE(changchai @ Oct 28 2015, 04:02 PM)
To be honest, Hazard was a whole different level last season n deserved his shot for PFA player of the year.
But this season seems like the whole team is in a meltdown ... sure hope Roman doesn't sack Mourinho, cause i still think they can turn around n compete again for the top four or even try to retain the BPL if they can manage a good run.
anyway hope we can maintain our current form in BPL n avoid any major injuries ... but first let's take one team at the time ... let's have a good game against Swansea.
Such a disjointed performance from the Arsenal motley crew it was almost comedy.
1. We have 3 good CBs to rotate (Gabriel/Kosc/BFG) we could have paired any two last night and it would have been much different. Not to say Per was okay last night but if it was someone he was familiar with the most on duty along side him it could have been better. Much better.
2. Debuchy & Gibbs - They deserved the opportunity and I'd like to think they have the quality but man, they were awful.
3. Flamini & Kamara - Were they supposed to be our poor man's Cazorla & Coq last night? A makeshift defensive midfield pairing in front of back 4 of 2nd stringers (except Per) = Disaster.
4. The creative play was supposed to come from Bennacer?
5. The Ox and Walcott got injured almost as soon as they were on field. Whatafff...
6. I believe we staged this loss to cheer up Chelsea. But Chelsea themselves lost. Whataffuck Chelsea!! (hahaha)
Such a disjointed performance from the Arsenal motley crew it was almost comedy.
1. We have 3 good CBs to rotate (Gabriel/Kosc/BFG) we could have paired any two last night and it would have been much different. Not to say Per was okay last night but if it was someone he was familiar with the most on duty along side him it could have been better. Much better.
2. Debuchy & Gibbs - They deserved the opportunity and I'd like to think they have the quality but man, they were awful.
3. Flamini & Kamara - Were they supposed to be our poor man's Cazorla & Coq last night? A makeshift defensive midfield pairing in front of back 4 of 2nd stringers (except Per) = Disaster.
4. The creative play was supposed to come from Bennacer?
5. The Ox and Walcott got injured almost as soon as they were on field. Whatafff...
6. I believe we staged this loss to cheer up Chelsea. But Chelsea themselves lost. Whataffuck Chelsea!! (hahaha)
How was the performance of Campbell??? I guess with the injuries we will be seeing him a lot.
on his right-sided options at Swansea… Campbell and Alex Iwobi. Santi can play there as well but he has become very important centrally. The problem sometimes is that you can destroy two departments if you move one player out. We control the ball better with Santi in the middle.
Walcott and Ox confirmed out until after the international break.
Swansea City boss Garry Monk could field an unchanged side after last weekend’s victory. Gomis, who after a promising start to the season, has faded a bit, not scoring in his last 6 outings, should lead the line against Arsenal.
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Theo Walcott picked up hamstring and calf injuries, respectively, which will keep them out of action for the next two games. Whilst Mesut Ozil, Alexis Sanchez and Santi Cazorla are among the players set to return to the lineup much to the delight of the manager.
Arsenal possible starting lineup: Cech; Bellerin, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal; Flamini, Coquelin; Cazorla, Ozil, Sanchez; Giroud
Interesting Numbers
Swansea are unbeaten in their last three Premier League meetings with Arsenal (W2 D1), after losing three of the five before that (W2).
Arsenal have lost just one of their last 11 Premier League away games (0-2 v Chelsea), winning nine and drawing one.
Garry Monk’s side are without a win in three home league games (D2 L1); their worst run since last February (also three games). They’ve never gone four without a victory at home under their current boss.
Arsenal have scored 1999 goals in all competitions under Arsene Wenger.
3 week without the ox and theo..will miss theo pace a lot..
If Wenger decide to shift Santi to CAM, Ozil to RW and play Flamini+Coquelin then our CM might struggled against Shelvey+Sigurdsson/Ki Sung.
If Wenger decide Campbell to play RW, he need to be ready to put AAA form to cover up Bellerin against Montero. Bellerin can match up Montero pace but not sure his dribbling. For sure, Mertersacker on rightside CB will have problem with that pace to cover up Bellerin.
I wonder if it good things if shifting Sanchez to RW to deal with Montero, Ozil to LW and Campbell play behind Giroud. And maybe Gabriel+Koscielny axis much better for this match than Mertersacker+Koscielny?
If Wenger decide to shift Santi to CAM, Ozil to RW and play Flamini+Coquelin then our CM might struggled against Shelvey+Sigurdsson/Ki Sung.
If Wenger decide Campbell to play RW, he need to be ready to put AAA form to cover up Bellerin against Montero. Bellerin can match up Montero pace but not sure his dribbling. For sure, Mertersacker on rightside CB will have problem with that pace to cover up Bellerin.
I wonder if it good things if shifting Sanchez to RW to deal with Montero, Ozil to LW and Campbell play behind Giroud. And maybe Gabriel+Koscielny axis much better for this match than Mertersacker+Koscielny?
Looking at things I would prefer Flam/Coq in the middle. Santi CAM, Sanchez RW, Ozil LW and Gabriel CB.
Campbell to me just isn't good enough and Flamini with Santi pushed up will provide more defensive cover for our CBs.
We have all seen how quick Gabriel is and he is no slouch either when it comes to a physical battle. Strength wiill be important against the likes of Ayew and Gomis.
Per may be big in size but he doesn't look like he has the strength to match his size.
Looking at things I would prefer Flam/Coq in the middle. Santi CAM, Sanchez RW, Ozil LW and Gabriel CB.
Campbell to me just isn't good enough and Flamini with Santi pushed up will provide more defensive cover for our CBs.
We have all seen how quick Gabriel is and he is no slouch either when it comes to a physical battle. Strength wiill be important against the likes of Ayew and Gomis.
Per may be big in size but he doesn't look like he has the strength to match his size.
Coquelin-Flamini partnership - while Coq is solid, Flamini is just a DM with CB traits. He is slow, can't hold the ball as good as Santi and he isn't creative player. With Santi playing too upfront as CAM, behind Giroud, our frontlines might struggle to get the good services from those 2 DMs. Swansea will surely put pressing game to our midfielders. If he not good enough to hold the ball he might lose it infront of our back 4 which is going to be exposed.
QUOTE(ohhisee @ Oct 31 2015, 04:44 PM)
yup i know ..but we must understand he isnt in good form and only get a few chances to playing but he is quite solid before his injuries..
I think his form will continue like nowadays bcoz Debuchy's mind already set leaving out Emirates. And i won't put non-pacey, out of form RB against pacey and tricky Montero. W/o good form, he gonna be slaughtered by Montero.
I think his form will continue like nowadays bcoz Debuchy's mind already set leaving out Emirates. And i won't put non-pacey, out of form RB against pacey and tricky Montero. W/o good form, he gonna be slaughtered by Montero.
yup hector still the best to marking montero..hope the combination in midfield can prevent opponent from attacking a lot..swans got many good players..
Coquelin-Flamini partnership - while Coq is solid, Flamini is just a DM with CB traits. He is slow, can't hold the ball as good as Santi and he isn't creative player. With Santi playing too upfront as CAM, behind Giroud, our frontlines might struggle to get the good services from those 2 DMs. Swansea will surely put pressing game to our midfielders. If he not good enough to hold the ball he might lose it infront of our back 4 which is going to be exposed. I think his form will continue like nowadays bcoz Debuchy's mind already set leaving out Emirates. And i won't put non-pacey, out of form RB against pacey and tricky Montero. W/o good form, he gonna be slaughtered by Montero.
Unfortunately that is the best we have IMO without compromising both defense and attack.
Coquelin's distribution has sort of been something not too many people have noticed but its been some sort of a highlight of late for me, those deep accurate long balls and crisp forward passes, add that with Coquelin's energy he can be our box to box man, in attack go up alongside or slightly behind Santi and in defense drop back down level with Flamini in DM. Santi should be fine as AM if Alexis and Ozil can provide him with the movement to spray his passes.
The thing is with a trio of Coq/Santi/Campbell, this looks too lightweight for my liking. Ki, Sigurdsson and Shelvey will batter them physically.
Plus having Flamini over Campbell is that we all know how fired up Flamini can be in big games. He may be past it but if its a big game, you can count on him to raise his game.
why is everyone criticizing JM? We should congratulate to Klopp, and give this guy a credit.
well, because JM love to criticize our boss. Unless you are in the #wengerout faction. Hate to see him go, but if he did, please bring along Costa. Of coz, if Shawcross can break his leg first, then it will be great.
sanchez not performing. cazorla not performing. ozil missing. coquelin not showing any potentials. bellerin also slower than the montero. what is wrong with our players?
we fell into Swansea hand. Their tactics are to stop any kind of our chances for fast break. They only let us go for slow attack build up so they can stay behind waiting for fast counter.
Campbell showed he was willing to track back defensively but when up attack, he slowed down our play.
Looking at d bench, no game changer there. If current 1st 11 can't get a goal, i don't expect any of subs can either.
Rofl guys. I saw the last preview they show.. With all the games.. There was like 4 or 5 times with Jose shaking his head.. And they keep zooming in hahaha. Good laugh.
Would have been awesome if City draw. Damn.
This post has been edited by Rei7: Nov 1 2015, 01:35 AM
A relatively poor performance by Arsenal in the first 60 mins. Something was not clicking in midfield and the pitch was damn slippery. But then Mr Flappy did his thing giving us the 2nd goal and Swansea's morale went up in smoke. From that moment on Swansea had no chance to comeback.
1. Alexis was poor for his standard. But Alexis is Alexis.
2. Joel Campbell took his chance to impress rather well. His ball deliveries wasn't quite there yet but he showed that he was willing to work hard. Got a goal too. Not bad at all.
3. I would have awarded Bellerin with a Kamikaze Clearance Award but had the ball gone in it would have been disallowed anyway. So, here's some ko'yok for you instead, Hector.
4. Fabianski is still Fabianski.
5. Na na nanananaaaa Girouuuuuud.
6. Jangan lupa tapau nasik untuk kawan-kawan dalam gua on Monday nanti ya.
Mesut Ozil can't stop assisting! 2 more today. how come they din't score? I tot their mgr said they hv plenty of 20goals per season strikers that Welbeck wasn't one of them.
Tak salah Rooney, Carrick. Or pilosopi dutchman tak betol.
6 goals in 6 games for Olivier Giroud. Haters keep hating.
Even when things are going right, some fans would still look to someone to blame. They better go back to fifa16 or something, do they forget the game is played with real humans here.
Anyways Arsenal over their Swansea hoodoo. Very strong indication of the mentality currently. Looking good.
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commentator also said arsenal either they good at 1st half of the season or flop at the end of the season or other way around...just hope arsenal can maintain their performance and keep winning
This time gonna be ozil season. Can see how much confidence he has gained game after game and knowing that he is very much integral and architect of our winning streak
Got any strikers in january transfer? Hehe Im pretty much convinced walcott and girud rotating depends on tactical to ve player. But depending on girud alone is risky. And he seems to comfortable when there is no challenge for his position. Just look what sitting on bench for a few week have made him. A more sensible guy on chances. But yesterday i kinda see his old habits is coming back.... The bodo one touch to everything
dun be too overconfident la, arsenal just 2 or 3 injuries away to go into disaster mode
especially if it were either Sanchez/Ozil then attacking play will be blunt. Or Santi/Coquelin then midfield superiority will be dead. If Cech, prepare the worst, Macey is our 5th GK.
QUOTE(maraippo @ Nov 1 2015, 02:06 PM)
Got any strikers in january transfer? Hehe Im pretty much convinced walcott and girud rotating depends on tactical to ve player. But depending on girud alone is risky. And he seems to comfortable when there is no challenge for his position. Just look what sitting on bench for a few week have made him. A more sensible guy on chances. But yesterday i kinda see his old habits is coming back.... The bodo one touch to everything
but the so called "bodo one touch" hit one touch header led to 1st goal that resolved Swansea defending afterward. How bad is that?
Those one touch passes/flicks are his playing style and strengh. He isn't the type that waiting for thru pass then using pace to run behind the defenders like Theo, or the kind that dance with d ball, dribbles pass defender/s, that Sanchez/Santi specialist. He's done it fine. Atleast he didn't put thing to much to impress like Ox was, trying too much even went to try dribbling pass 2 defenders and lost the ball.
You should go and read chelsea thread (no you shouldn't, i don't know why i did) Too many posts in there talking about how the board failed to sign certain players etc (you have 300k pw falcao ffs) and that's exactly why mou can't do much to change things around. What a bullshit. That team is still the same team that won the championship just 5 months ago. Typical oil money club. Always seeking for a solution from outside. While the real problems lie deep inside. It's everyone's fault but himself. Good thing that he didn't mention wenger last night.
I think that pretty much sums up what kind of manager mou is. I for once would love to see him manage a tight budget team in a competitive league. So that I can see how 'special' he is.
That's why we need a few more signings. More squad depth, when injuries come and haunt us again.
Hmm not sure about new signings tho We should have ramsey and ox back in 2 weeks. And theo not long after that. Then in new year, jack, welbeck and rosicky all expected to come back (fingers crossed).
Would love to see a new face in january, but don't think we're in real need of that.
especially if it were either Sanchez/Ozil then attacking play will be blunt. Or Santi/Coquelin then midfield superiority will be dead. If Cech, prepare the worst, Macey is our 5th GK. but the so called "bodo one touch" hit one touch header led to 1st goal that resolved Swansea defending afterward. How bad is that?
Those one touch passes/flicks are his playing style and strengh. He isn't the type that waiting for thru pass then using pace to run behind the defenders like Theo, or the kind that dance with d ball, dribbles pass defender/s, that Sanchez/Santi specialist. He's done it fine. Atleast he didn't put thing to much to impress like Ox was, trying too much even went to try dribbling pass 2 defenders and lost the ball.
Then again, his one touch is purely on luck. U put a kayu in front of a goal post and hit ball to the kayu many times, by luck some of the balls will make a very beautiful goal. Thats hownhe play most of the time. He just one touch every balls that come his way no matter in what condition. In some cases, if he just take some time to composed himself, he can convert it to goal easily.
As a main striker, his focus should be more composed whenever the chance is given to him and not wasting it unnecessarily. Against a weaker opponent, the chance is abundance, but on a bad day, even midfielders cant keep on feeding him with chances.
Hmm not sure about new signings tho We should have ramsey and ox back in 2 weeks. And theo not long after that. Then in new year, jack, welbeck and rosicky all expected to come back (fingers crossed).
Would love to see a new face in january, but don't think we're in real need of that.
True. Capable strikers is not a lot in the market. Its not necessary to shop. Only shop if there are player worthy of the squad Perhaps campbell n dan crowley can use the chance to shine
Actually when I started watching this game, my first thought was "We are gonna screw this game up" when Giroud overbend his open shot to Fab. Sanchez wasn't there, he gave too many balls to the opponent, he should be rested. Shelvey was there roaming with Gomis distracting our CBs to open gaps for him and Montero. It was a good tactic to beat the team up until Giroud scored the first goal. *Was it me or everyone thought this striker is damn bloody good in set pieces?*
Campbell need more time to gel up his first team games. He wasn't perfect but he was very hardworking. I guess all fans didn't expect him to blossom into good form but just to be versatile substitute in the mean time.
All in all, it was a total Ozil show last night. It's kinda eye candy to watch him play in this kind of form week in week out .
I wanna give a special mention to bellerin. This kid is the bomb. The pace he demonstrate to stop gomis, normal player would just give up. The ayew offside attempt, he race to the line and clear them and risk injuries when crash against the pole.
We are doing well. Had to keep the momentum going. Bayern next. Keep the believe
Anyway talking about striker, if Falcao is available now, anybody want? Hahhaa
This post has been edited by Vinci777: Nov 1 2015, 05:35 PM
I wanna give a special mention to bellerin. This kid is the bomb. The pace he demonstrate to stop gomis, normal player would just give up. The ayew offside attempt, he race to the line and clear them and risk injuries when crash against the pole.
We are doing well. Had to keep the momentum going. Bayern next. Keep the believe
Anyway talking about striker, if Falcao is available now, anybody want? Hahhaa
some of "you" start to sound cocky like man u and chelsea fan when they're at top.. you dislike their behavior and now repeat the same... just a reminder, nothing personal.
some of "you" start to sound cocky like man u and chelsea fan when they're at top.. you dislike their behavior and now repeat the same... just a reminder, nothing personal.
i think some friendly banter is ok ... but try not to overdo it ... football is about sportsmanship ... i'm sure if wenger is asked by media about mourinho, he will offer his support as a professional.
anyway hope roman will give mourinho his full season before doing anything stupid n costly ... i still think chelsea can climb back to top 4 ... it's only just november.
back to arsenal, great second half n great job from the team ... let's keep the momentum cause 2 tough matches to come bayern n spurs.
I second side sentiment,but then again....this forum..forever will have new young blood etc...I too back then tried to encourage the houlier then thou behaviour...then I realize it's stupid to try to change the trend in football lounge...if things get out of control biar admin/mod yg settle la..walaupun diorang pun x boleh pakai...not like we have a choice lol
anyways my take on swansea game, you guys gotta stop expecting creme de la creme performance from the squad week in week out
considering we are performing beyond expectations period, going against statistical probability, having bad records against Swansea...last night victory was just fkin good...I expect swansea to made it tough..they did. 3 nil and clean sheet...tolong cukurla
dahla mu draw and chelsea lost..apalan kamu orang mao lagi
You should go and read chelsea thread (no you shouldn't, i don't know why i did) Too many posts in there talking about how the board failed to sign certain players etc (you have 300k pw falcao ffs) and that's exactly why mou can't do much to change things around. What a bullshit. That team is still the same team that won the championship just 5 months ago. Typical oil money club. Always seeking for a solution from outside. While the real problems lie deep inside. It's everyone's fault but himself. Good thing that he didn't mention wenger last night.
I think that pretty much sums up what kind of manager mou is. I for once would love to see him manage a tight budget team in a competitive league. So that I can see how 'special' he is.
sorry i can't remember the last time i read other club thread here but enjoy reading their club forum like rawk,redcafe etc.. yup some of that players not performing well this season but i think other club can study already jose well known tactics like what happen to arsene old skool tactics.. jose already successful to bring any cup to every club he goes and also make him more ego.. dont worry he will not go to small and small budget club..
Serious banana skins I was afraid we would fall victim to were Leicester, Palace, Everton, Swansea, Stoke and Southampton. West Ham went for our jugular before we even realized they were a threat but let's see how did we do against these lots;
vs Palace: Won 2-1 vs Stoke: Won 2-0 vs Leicester Won 5-2 vs Everton Won 2-1 vs Swansea Won 3-0
We haven't faced Soton yet but we have taken full points from the others. This says a lot about the team this time around.
There is now venom in our attacks and goals can come from anywhere be it from crosses or intricate play down the middle. We have players who can beat defenders on the ground, and players who are strong in the air. And of course there are also speed demons and assists wizards. Defensively the whole team now defend as a unit. Everyone is expected to run back and get stuck in. This and the fact that there is a mighty enforcer roaming the midfield have given us a steely armour to our usually soft under belly. And then there is Petr Cech guarding the posts.
We have come a long way from those days when the teams above would have us sussed out. They'd let us have the ball knowing we wouldn't be able to do anything and then simply went for the sucker punch. I'm glad we no longer hold on to the possession football as our master gameplan. We now sit back deep when necessary and when the opponents are exposed we suddenly turn on the blitzkrieg mode. I think some other manager may have found the old blueprint that Wenger has tossed into the trash but this new game plan looks much much better and way deadlier.
1. Walcott - late November 2. The Ox - late November 3. Ramsey - late November 4. Wilshere - mid December 5. Rosicky - mid January 6. Welbeck - mid January
some of "you" start to sound cocky like man u and chelsea fan when they're at top.. you dislike their behavior and now repeat the same... just a reminder, nothing personal.
it's just typical arsenal fans behaviour. anda tidak tau? lel
wait till they lose again la. sure kecoh wenger out la apa la
last time got one forummer here kecoh about ozil. now? bukan main heboh praise
Serious banana skins I was afraid we would fall victim to were Leicester, Palace, Everton, Swansea, Stoke and Southampton. West Ham went for our jugular before we even realized they were a threat but let's see how did we do against these lots;
vs Palace: Won 2-1 vs Stoke: Won 2-0 vs Leicester Won 5-2 vs Everton Won 2-1 vs Swansea Won 3-0
We haven't faced Soton yet but we have taken full points from the others. This says a lot about the team this time around.
There is now venom in our attacks and goals can come from anywhere be it from crosses or intricate play down the middle. We have players who can beat defenders on the ground, and players who are strong in the air. And of course there are also speed demons and assists wizards. Defensively the whole team now defend as a unit. Everyone is expected to run back and get stuck in. This and the fact that there is a mighty enforcer roaming the midfield have given us a steely armour to our usually soft under belly. And then there is Petr Cech guarding the posts.
We have come a long way from those days when the teams above would have us sussed out. They'd let us have the ball knowing we wouldn't be able to do anything and then simply went for the sucker punch. I'm glad we no longer hold on to the possession football as our master gameplan. We now sit back deep when necessary and when the opponents are exposed we suddenly turn on the blitzkrieg mode. I think some other manager may have found the old blueprint that Wenger has tossed into the trash but this new game plan looks much much better and way deadlier.
it's just typical arsenal fans behaviour. anda tidak tau? lel
wait till they lose again la. sure kecoh wenger out la apa la
last time got one forummer here kecoh about ozil. now? bukan main heboh praise
i don't think that's the typical arsenal fan's behaviour - infact most true fans still stand by their team thru thick or thin.
the fans that u describe is typical trophy hunting fans or fans who don't understand the very essence of sports ... i'm sure every club regardless arsenal, chelsea, man utd or city will have fans like what u describe .. who only whines when their team lost.
sorry i can't remember the last time i read other club thread here but enjoy reading their club forum like rawk,redcafe etc.. yup some of that players not performing well this season but i think other club can study already jose well known tactics like what happen to arsene old skool tactics.. jose already successful to bring any cup to every club he goes and also make him more ego.. dont worry he will not go to small and small budget club..
well ... it's no point going to other thread n then butthurt about it ... to me if anyone can't take criticism then better don't go n see other clubs thread (cause u might ended complaining like a little boy).
as for mourinho - he is a good manager - but i think i don't like his antics, yes he is full of ego n doesn't care much about anyone else ... he doesn't care about the club, the fans, the FA, nope he don't give shit about anyone. he will talk about anything he likes n then claim that the whole world is against him .
anyway like one of his press conference where he retaliate n brand wenger as "specialist in failure" - he admit that he don't lose much, losing is not something that he experience much in his career, so this season will be big test for him to recover n i honestly think he can n he is the man to bring chelsea back.
well, guess some fans will claim that we r talking about chelsea again n go back to their thread n butthurt again (for some perasan fans) ... but then again i believe not all fans for the other threads r like that, probably a few bad apples spoil the fan's club reputation ... it's like a BIG WHITE ELEPHANT (mourinho's situation) sitting in the living room n we can't talk about it without being criticized.
i don't think that's the typical arsenal fan's behaviour - infact most true fans still stand by their team thru thick or thin.
the fans that u describe is typical trophy hunting fans or fans who don't understand the very essence of sports ... i'm sure every club regardless arsenal, chelsea, man utd or city will have fans like what u describe .. who only whines when their team lost.
Some "fans" think winning is the only reason for support, and yet "stick" to a club to have some semblance of "loyalty", just to show they're like the actual fans. It's easy to tell who they are really, a bit goes wrong, Mesut plays like a normal footballer instead of the martian that he is, and suddenly it's crisis all round and blame dished around. And when they win, they force it down others throats and gloat like they've won the world. Like you said, I don't think these people understand the joy of following Arsenal/Everton/United/whoever is. God knows why they even bother in the first place, if it's so hard and makes them so angry and bitter.
Like you said, I don't think these people understand the joy of following Arsenal/Everton/United/whoever is. God knows why they even bother in the first place, if it's so hard and makes them so angry and bitter.
supporting arsenal give me lots of memory - Invincible winning the league at white heart lane - getting thrashed by manu 8-2 - the panic buy by wenger - the champions league road to final 2005 - arshavin score to beat barca - the disaster lost to birmingham in league cup final - drooling on the signing of ozil - the 1st trophy after 9 years... - alexis sanchez...
way too many memory with this team.. really enjoy the journey thru thick and thin.. COYG!!
i think some friendly banter is ok ... but try not to overdo it ... football is about sportsmanship ... i'm sure if wenger is asked by media about mourinho, he will offer his support as a professional.
anyway hope roman will give mourinho his full season before doing anything stupid n costly ... i still think chelsea can climb back to top 4 ... it's only just november.
back to arsenal, great second half n great job from the team ... let's keep the momentum cause 2 tough matches to come bayern n spurs.
I agree with you, troll a little bit and move on it's ok, but everyday.. this is not troll football FB page.
QUOTE(Quick` @ Nov 1 2015, 10:59 PM)
I second side sentiment,but then again....this forum..forever will have new young blood etc...I too back then tried to encourage the houlier then thou behaviour...then I realize it's stupid to try to change the trend in football lounge...if things get out of control biar admin/mod yg settle la..walaupun diorang pun x boleh pakai...not like we have a choice lol
anyways my take on swansea game, you guys gotta stop expecting creme de la creme performance from the squad week in week out
considering we are performing beyond expectations period, going against statistical probability, having bad records against Swansea...last night victory was just fkin good...I expect swansea to made it tough..they did. 3 nil and clean sheet...tolong cukurla
dahla mu draw and chelsea lost..apalan kamu orang mao lagi
You make us feel "OLD" my friend Btw, enjoy the fantastic form of our team atm.
QUOTE(butthurtlettew @ Nov 2 2015, 02:42 AM)
it's just typical arsenal fans behaviour. anda tidak tau? lel
wait till they lose again la. sure kecoh wenger out la apa la
last time got one forummer here kecoh about ozil. now? bukan main heboh praise
supporting arsenal give me lots of memory - Invincible winning the league at white heart lane - getting thrashed by manu 8-2 - the panic buy by wenger - the champions league road to final 2005 - arshavin score to beat barca - the disaster lost to birmingham in league cup final - drooling on the signing of ozil - the 1st trophy after 9 years... - alexis sanchez...
way too many memory with this team.. really enjoy the journey thru thick and thin.. COYG!!
Yes very true..and throughout the 9 years I've also learnt to be a more patience guy..😊
supporting arsenal give me lots of memory - Invincible winning the league at white heart lane - getting thrashed by manu 8-2 - the panic buy by wenger - the champions league road to final 2005 - arshavin score to beat barca - the disaster lost to birmingham in league cup final - drooling on the signing of ozil - the 1st trophy after 9 years... - alexis sanchez...
way too many memory with this team.. really enjoy the journey thru thick and thin.. COYG!!
And also at one point, our strongest line up are consists of djorou, squallaci, denilson. Man that something lol
supporting arsenal give me lots of memory - Invincible winning the league at white heart lane - getting thrashed by manu 8-2 - the panic buy by wenger - the champions league road to final 2005 - arshavin score to beat barca - the disaster lost to birmingham in league cup final - drooling on the signing of ozil - the 1st trophy after 9 years... - alexis sanchez...
way too many memory with this team.. really enjoy the journey thru thick and thin.. COYG!!
yup really enjoy everything happen to the club.. sometime wengerIN,sometime wengerOUT..
supporting arsenal give me lots of memory - Invincible winning the league at white heart lane - getting thrashed by manu 8-2 - the panic buy by wenger - the champions league road to final 2005 - arshavin score to beat barca - the disaster lost to birmingham in league cup final - drooling on the signing of ozil - the 1st trophy after 9 years... - alexis sanchez...
way too many memory with this team.. really enjoy the journey thru thick and thin.. COYG!!
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From: Cyberjaya | Kota Bharu | Republic of Terengganu
QUOTE(robel @ Nov 2 2015, 12:03 PM)
supporting arsenal give me lots of memory - Invincible winning the league at white heart lane - getting thrashed by manu 8-2 - the panic buy by wenger - the champions league road to final 2005 - arshavin score to beat barca - the disaster lost to birmingham in league cup final - drooling on the signing of ozil - the 1st trophy after 9 years... - alexis sanchez...
way too many memory with this team.. really enjoy the journey thru thick and thin.. COYG!!
LoL. so true
- Anyone remember during William Gallas as our captain, he merajuk keluar padang when we're lead the game and then later on conceded and lose points to give up the title? I forgot against who and which season, but that moment very2 memorable.. haha
- Ref mistaken Gibbs for Ox, Lololol..
- Last but not least, remember a season when we're trailing behind Spurs for 4th spot before last game of the season? later whole of their squad got cirit birit and lost last game and slip the 4th place to us. Conspiracy theory there ahahaha
- Anyone remember during William Gallas as our captain, he merajuk keluar padang when we're lead the game and then later on conceded and lose points to give up the title? I forgot against who and which season, but that moment very2 memorable.. haha
- Ref mistaken Gibbs for Ox, Lololol..
- Last but not least, remember a season when we're trailing behind Spurs for 4th spot before last game of the season? later whole of their squad got cirit birit and lost last game and slip the 4th place to us. Conspiracy theory there ahahaha
supporting arsenal give me lots of memory - Invincible winning the league at white heart lane - getting thrashed by manu 8-2 - the panic buy by wenger - the champions league road to final 2005 - arshavin score to beat barca - the disaster lost to birmingham in league cup final - drooling on the signing of ozil - the 1st trophy after 9 years... - alexis sanchez...
way too many memory with this team.. really enjoy the journey thru thick and thin.. COYG!!
if you guys don't mind, may i ask who is the panic buy? i always thought sir wenger never panic in his transfer dealings
I wanna give a special mention to bellerin. This kid is the bomb. The pace he demonstrate to stop gomis, normal player would just give up. The ayew offside attempt, he race to the line and clear them and risk injuries when crash against the pole.
We are doing well. Had to keep the momentum going. Bayern next. Keep the believe
Anyway talking about striker, if Falcao is available now, anybody want? Hahhaa
Oh before i forgot.. our mysterious signing of all time : kim kalsstrom.. hahaha
Huh? How is that mysterious?
We had a midfield injury crisis and Kallstrom is a full international, has a wealth of experience in the CL with Lyon (winning League titles as well mind you) and used to be one of Sweden's brightest midfield talents.
We needed reinforcements in CM and with no one available or Wenger simply refused to spend on anyone is anyone's guess but we needed a CM at the time.
It was hardly a mystery as we all knew a midfield signing was coming, it was just a matter of who.
Surprising it was Kallstrom on loan as there was virtually nothing until he posed with an Arsenal jersey on the dot com but mysterious? nah.
I would term mysterious as in signings like Bebe, Amaury Bischoff and as some people has mentioned PCY. These signings served absolutely no purpose and we could've done without signing them at all. Signings that really makes you wonder, sign them for what in the first place?
Kallstrom was signed a purpose and he served his purpose well, reinforcing our midfield with depth. Even played a huge part in our road to winning the FA Cup.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Nov 3 2015, 01:52 AM
btw i dun agree signing of W.Gallas is bad I still remember the final tackle that blocked Stevie G. goal and he did scold T.Walcott which make him use his brain more and he did score some goals that bring us valuable 1 or 3 pts
We had a midfield injury crisis and Kallstrom is a full international, has a wealth of experience in the CL with Lyon (winning League titles as well mind you) and used to be one of Sweden's brightest midfield talents.
We needed reinforcements in CM and with no one available or Wenger simply refused to spend on anyone is anyone's guess but we needed a CM at the time.
It was hardly a mystery as we all knew a midfield signing was coming, it was just a matter of who.
Surprising it was Kallstrom on loan as there was virtually nothing until he posed with an Arsenal jersey on the dot com but mysterious? nah.
I would term mysterious as in signings like Bebe, Amaury Bischoff and as some people has mentioned PCY. These signings served absolutely no purpose and we could've done without signing them at all. Signings that really makes you wonder, sign them for what in the first place?
Kallstrom was signed a purpose and he served his purpose well, reinforcing our midfield with depth. Even played a huge part in our road to winning the FA Cup.
Now still playing ke?
I remembered he also part of wenger panic buy but last minute he got back injuries kan?
yup i like kalsom and unlucky to him because of his injuries and his role(really just a backup for our current centre midfield especially wheelchair..)
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QUOTE(sigheart @ Nov 3 2015, 01:37 AM)
Huh? How is that mysterious?
We had a midfield injury crisis and Kallstrom is a full international, has a wealth of experience in the CL with Lyon (winning League titles as well mind you) and used to be one of Sweden's brightest midfield talents.
We needed reinforcements in CM and with no one available or Wenger simply refused to spend on anyone is anyone's guess but we needed a CM at the time.
It was hardly a mystery as we all knew a midfield signing was coming, it was just a matter of who.
Surprising it was Kallstrom on loan as there was virtually nothing until he posed with an Arsenal jersey on the dot com but mysterious? nah.
I would term mysterious as in signings like Bebe, Amaury Bischoff and as some people has mentioned PCY. These signings served absolutely no purpose and we could've done without signing them at all. Signings that really makes you wonder, sign them for what in the first place?
Kallstrom was signed a purpose and he served his purpose well, reinforcing our midfield with depth. Even played a huge part in our road to winning the FA Cup.
Haha sorry I just making joke. What I meant by mysterious is I've never see he's playing 1 match for arsenal.. did he? Maybe he did but I din watch the game. Summore out of a sudden got his photo with arsenal kit on the official website saying 'welcome kim kalsstrom'.. but after that never heard of him.
Arsenal are preparing to hold talks with Mikel Arteta over the player’s future at the club beyond this season.
The Spaniard has managed only five appearances in the Premier League this campaign after surrendering his starting spot in defensive midfield to Francis Coquelin.
Niggling injuries have limited the contribution of Arteta who is reportedly set to discuss his future with the club in January.
The 33-year-old’s contract at Arsenal expires in June 2016, and according to a Spanish tabloid, Arteta could be released by the Gunners when this campaign comes to an end.
The club has already confirmed its support towards Arteta’s pursuit of a career in coaching when he hangs up his boots after allowing the Spaniard to coach Arsenal’s under-16 team last month.
Arsene Wenger’s skipper, who joined the club in the summer of 2011, is currently sidelined by an ankle problem he sustained in training ahead of the 2-1 victory over Everton.
“He [Arteta] has the quality to be a manager in the future I’m sure, but at the moment he gives his focus on the job as a player and gives absolutely everything.” Wenger said last Monday.
Mathieu Flamini and Tomas Rosicky are other stars with only eight months remaining on their deal.
should we keep him?young and look loyal..i still think ospina better than him hehehe cech>ospina>woceh>martinez
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Wojciech Szczesny was either refreshingly honest at the weekend when speaking of his desire to still be an Arsenal player, or was putting two fingers up to his critics at AS Roma by revealing he didn't really want to be there anyway. Szczesny has had a mixed time since moving to Roma, at some points the loan transfer has looked inspired and at others the whole idea has appeared ill-judged.
Szczesny's latest comments have surprised people at the club, as explained by Corriere dello Sport on Monday. The Arsenal owner goalkeeper told Sky Italia "Arsenal are like a family and I've got to admit that if the Gunners do call me back, I will say yes. If a year ago, somebody had told me I'd be playing for Roma, I would have thought it impossible. I could see myself at Arsenal for life, and I don't hide the fact that it's still my dream."
However, if Szczesny truly wants an Arsenal future then he surely needs to succeed out on loan. Failing whilst away from the club is hardly going to make Arsene Wenger want him back at Arsenal, regardless of how much Szczesny says he wants to be there.
Petr Cech is 33 years of age and still has at least several years of top class football ahead of him. Even if Szczesny does all the right things another period as Arsenal number one looks a long way off.
Haha sorry I just making joke. What I meant by mysterious is I've never see he's playing 1 match for arsenal.. did he? Maybe he did but I din watch the game. Summore out of a sudden got his photo with arsenal kit on the official website saying 'welcome kim kalsstrom'.. but after that never heard of him.
He was mostly involved in the Cups.
He scored one of our penalties in the penalty shootout vs Wigan in the FA Cup semi final as well
last season for arteta,flamini and little mozart? should we keep him?young and look loyal..i still think ospina better than him hehehe cech>ospina>woceh>martinez
Ospina, Szczesny and Martinez all in the same group age, still young and have long way to prepare. Martinez is the most inexperienced among 3 but also the youngest.
Wenger didn't sell Szczesny after we got Cech so i think Wenger still see him as the future. Ospina too. But we can't keep 3 GK of that calibre at same time so it good decision to loan out them. But he can't loan out both Ospina and Szczesny at same time and let inexperienced Martinez as No.2 the whole season. Keeping Ospina at the club as Cech's understudy is good for all (too bad Ospina injured and we were left with 5th choice GK as Cech's backup) Martinez and Szczesny loaned out is best as the pair gain experiences and playtimes. Maybe next season if Ospina is staying with us, can send him loan out while Szczesny back up Cech. Cech at current age and form, should be still good to us for around 5 years time. That time all those 3 should have better experience to take over.
Ospina, Szczesny and Martinez all in the same group age, still young and have long way to prepare. Martinez is the most inexperienced among 3 but also the youngest.
Wenger didn't sell Szczesny after we got Cech so i think Wenger still see him as the future. Ospina too. But we can't keep 3 GK of that calibre at same time so it good decision to loan out them. But he can't loan out both Ospina and Szczesny at same time and let inexperienced Martinez as No.2 the whole season. Keeping Ospina at the club as Cech's understudy is good for all (too bad Ospina injured and we were left with 5th choice GK as Cech's backup) Martinez and Szczesny loaned out is best as the pair gain experiences and playtimes. Maybe next season if Ospina is staying with us, can send him loan out while Szczesny back up Cech. Cech at current age and form, should be still good to us for around 5 years time. That time all those 3 should have better experience to take over.
agree..but i dont think ospina will stay.. how if cech doing gigi buffon here?consistently performing good and want retired here?
Sekor2 player Bayern bagi warning. Menyampah plak aku. Sekali menang lagi kite lol! Last time menang also with Bayern at their home. But not having Walcott and Chamberlain is kinda a big problem here..
on the team news… The team news is that, from Saturday’s squad, we lost Bellerin, who will not be available tomorrow night. We have nobody else back, so that means he has been replaced in the squad by Jeff Reine-Adelaide. on Hector’s injury… We have to wait a little bit. It’s not a big problem but it’s a small groin problem.
Acatually i dont put high hope to CL. To win it we must have super team like bayern and madrid. Also dunwan europa. Play premier league every monday not good if we want win premiership.
i wonder y some fan just like to come over for trolling purposes.
i can understand if other fans put constructive comments or want to discuss or offer option or ask question ... but just come here n troll n then go back n felt butthurt ?
even their team lost, it didn't matter as long as other teams lost as well.
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Well, aiyooo Hector joins Jack, Aaron, Theo and Alex-Ox in injury list? ..
So let's just hope for the best. Hopefully defensive is in Godmode tonight.
If we lose, and Olympiakos win against Dinamo, then in order to qualify to 2nd round is a MUST win our last 2 games and HOPING that Bayern will do us a favor by defeating Olympiakos. They drew @ munich also bye bye to UCL 2nd round.
No use if win big our last 2 games but Olympiakos win againt Bayern later, we still in 3rd place.
Huhu i hv a bad feeling that we might fail to advance to 2nd round for the first time
This post has been edited by waruna: Nov 4 2015, 12:51 PM
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So IF we succeed to finish all group matches with 9 points leveled with Olympiakos; this criteria will be applied to determine the rankings:
a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question; b. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question; c. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question; d. higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question; e. if, after having applied criteria a) to d), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to d) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria f) to l) apply;
f. superior goal difference in all group matches; g. higher number of goals scored in all group matches; h. higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; i. higher number of wins in all group matches; j. higher number of away wins in all group matches; k. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);
So IF we succeed to finish all group matches with 9 points leveled with Olympiakos; this criteria will be applied to determine the rankings:
a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question; b. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question; c. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question; d. higher number of goals scored away from home in the group matches played among the teams in question; e. if, after having applied criteria a) to d), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to d) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the teams in question to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria f) to l) apply;
f. superior goal difference in all group matches; g. higher number of goals scored in all group matches; h. higher number of away goals scored in all group matches; i. higher number of wins in all group matches; j. higher number of away wins in all group matches; k. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);
it is ok to lose to Bayern... even Olympiacos win against Dinamo
we still can march into 16 rounds if below condition all meet - Bayern beaten Olympiacos on next encounter - Arsenal must win the remaining 2 games - Arsenal must win the Olympiacos at least 2 goal margin or 4-3 or above high scoreline
This post has been edited by jam_lennon: Nov 4 2015, 02:56 PM
“Debuchy will play and I’m confident,” he said. “I trust Debuchy, he is a 100 per cent educated player in the box and in training. "Fortunately he played a full game against Sheffield Wednesday and physically he should be well."
i wonder y some fan just like to come over for trolling purposes.
i can understand if other fans put constructive comments or want to discuss or offer option or ask question ... but just come here n troll n then go back n felt butthurt ?
even their team lost, it didn't matter as long as other teams lost as well.
Is it just me or Debuchy likes to defend narrow close to the box. He tends to leave the wide area for the oppo winger to exploit. Well let's see him try to reclaim his spot at RB. All the best macha.
Is it just me or Debuchy likes to defend narrow close to the box. He tends to leave the wide area for the oppo winger to exploit. Well let's see him try to reclaim his spot at RB. All the best macha.
yeah hope debuchy can use his experience to handle douglas costa ... bellerin had hell against this guy.