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elea88
post Jun 22 2017, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 22 2017, 05:26 PM)
Let's talk here. If talk there Off Topic, nanti people marah.

See this page. Follow the instructions
https://www.eunittrust.com.sg/ReadPage.aspx?id=16. Fill up
1)Account opening form
2) PDPA form
3) CKA Declaration (you don't need to take their test)

You can hand in all documents by hand (go to SG or by mail). I went in person (as I was going there to open my bank account too)

Keep in mind Phillip SG requires you to have a SG bank account before they let you open. I was able to bypass that but still need to give them my SG bank account or else they will cancel my account. FSM SG doesn't need you to have SG bank account.
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/fsm/account-opening/main

More info on how to open bank account in SGhttps://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1440794/all

FSM SG charges
0.1% per quarter platform fees on all funds. Which means even though you didn't topup, your fund continue to increase in value, so the next quarter platform fees will be higher than current charges even though both is 0.1%.
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post Aug 7 2017, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 22 2017, 10:09 PM)
What?! You don't have a UT account in SG?  blink.gif  shocking.gif
Btw, recommend you to go down there, visit any Phillip investor center and drop off the form there rather than post from here. If post from here, all documents need to be verified with commissioner of oath. shakehead.gif  dry.gif
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i am going SG soon.. so, open Philip Cap no need FSM singapore?
both almost same funds ?
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post Aug 8 2017, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 22 2017, 06:50 PM)
Not sure lei. But for 5 years record have been giving out 10%+. But from my obersavtion, it's more like amasia but not as bad as amasia.
That's why I prefer global infrastructure.
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https://www.poems.com.sg/platforms/

so confuse.. which platform to choose?


i will shortlist these 2 ..

First State Global Infrastructure - can find with PHILLIP.

United Asian HY Bond fund can get 10% p.a (recommended by Hansel)*
this one dun hv with Phillip...?
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post Aug 8 2017, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 8 2017, 02:48 PM)
Got. Didn't look properly  tongue.gif
Name: UOB United Asian High Yield Bond Fd SGD/USD Acc/Dis
Search using this (fund finder)
https://www.poems.com.sg/unittrust/
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TQ TQ .. didn't know got UOB name infront!!!!
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post Aug 9 2017, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 8 2017, 11:31 PM)
Go explore both platform and see if you got some more fund you cannot find. Help you to find  tongue.gif

Kasi you tip
- You can buy from FSM and transfer over to DBS if DBS have that fund. Pay little bit of platform fees (count it as donation to FSM). Lesser than full platform fees (because you are holding few days vs one full quarters).
- Their transfer is unlike our transfer where you have to sell first.

IMO, Phillip is rather complete although they don't have stuff like Pinebridge Asia ex Japan Small Cap, Parvest Japan Small Cap
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i open Phillip Cap first. cannot monitor too many platform.

my intention is to shift some funds out of FSM MALAYSIA.. hopefully my $$$ can grow faster with Phillip Cap Sg.
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post Aug 16 2017, 07:36 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 7 2017, 10:44 PM)
tifosi, best contact Phillip because I remember methos of payment, maybank eps is on their list
No need. Both different companies. They are basically competitors. sweat.gif

Differences between them:
FSM charges you platform fees while Phillip doesn't charge you platform fees.

Just prepare all necessary documents (you can refer to my previous post). Fill up the forms, drop by any of their investor place. Their HQ is very easy to locate. City hall MRT station. Raffles city tower.

Yeah almost same. The popular ones which are available on FSM also got on Phillip . However funds like Ponzi 2, maybank asian bond fund (quite a good bond fund), certain SGD class fund Phillip doesn't sell (eg. schroder asian something the SGD version is not available on Phillip but available on FSM. But both have the USD version).

These are some examples. You may request for them to carry the fund you want. But whether they listen to you is another question. About a month back, told them to carry this schroder fund, until today, habuk pun tak ada. Told them FSM SG and Dollardex both have the SGD version. How come Phillip tak ada. Said we will look into it.
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Ramjade,

POEMS 2.0 is account to buy unitrust only ..? or is it a trading ac too? to buy shares?
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post Aug 16 2017, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 16 2017, 08:30 AM)
Semua boleh.
But the link I gave you is for unit trust only. So I am sure they will open a UT account only for only. Not sure if you can use it to buy shares. However, I have play around with it and found out you still have acess to stock screener and can "pin it" next ro UT tools.
On my application form, they will write there UTKC. If you want to open all for one account, best to ask them what other forms are needed.

They have free mobile stock alert price if a certain price is met, they will give you alert. Haven't test this yet but it's very useful if really give you alert. Will test one day when get a new phone.

However, would not really recommend POEMS as stock broker for reasons below:
1) Price of buy and sell is SGD25. No discount. In this area, DBS V wins as both also CDP but DBS V only SGD5 (current promo). Even without promo. DBS V win again as price is only SGD18.
2) Cash upfront SGD10 but got maintenance and dividend fees (not sure for local stocks or foreign stocks only) unlike maybank KE,standard chartered, FSM SG (FSM SG mentioned dividend fees is waived but don't know until when).

So for me, POEMS function as (what I am going to use it for):
1) unit trust provider
2) free stock alert
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ok thanks for info. i only want for unit trust. zipping over to Sg.
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post Aug 20 2017, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 16 2017, 08:30 AM)
Semua boleh.
But the link I gave you is for unit trust only. So I am sure they will open a UT account only for only. Not sure if you can use it to buy shares. However, I have play around with it and found out you still have acess to stock screener and can "pin it" next ro UT tools.
On my application form, they will write there UTKC. If you want to open all for one account, best to ask them what other forms are needed.

They have free mobile stock alert price if a certain price is met, they will give you alert. Haven't test this yet but it's very useful if really give you alert. Will test one day when get a new phone.

However, would not really recommend POEMS as stock broker for reasons below:
1) Price of buy and sell is SGD25. No discount. In this area, DBS V wins as both also CDP but DBS V only SGD5 (current promo). Even without promo. DBS V win again as price is only SGD18.
2) Cash upfront SGD10 but got maintenance and dividend fees (not sure for local stocks or foreign stocks only) unlike maybank KE,standard chartered, FSM SG (FSM SG mentioned dividend fees is waived but don't know until when).

So for me, POEMS function as (what I am going to use it for):
1) unit trust provider
2) free stock alert
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Application submitted. i think will be a month later before i can use as they need to pos the password , user name etc....

Auto open all 3. UNIT TRUST, pre funded & CMA. linked to my CDP.
in case later down the road there be brokerage promo. As can use it to sell my CDP shares.
(hoping for below $25 )

Any forum u know of that discuss PHILIP CAP unit trust?

Whenever i hv the time, I want research and shortlist funds.




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post Aug 20 2017, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 20 2017, 01:13 PM)
Could be faster. Check your email. They say something about all being paperless now the last time I went there with my family (2nd trip). Not sure if really implemented or half implemented only.

Nah. CDP  will never get below $25. Best way to sell is use DBS V. Get $5 rebate making it effective $20. Best account to have with CDP is Maybank KE as you can apply for MCEP and let you have a USD account for USD1 only.

No forum I know of talk about SG unit trust. I could be wrong. All SGrean talk about STI, ETF and no one talks about UT. Actually I have already have my own UT watchlist. You share yours then I share mine. Then we can compare.
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where in PHILIP CAP can find EUROZONE SMALL CAP?

https://www.justetf.com/en/how-to/small-cap-etfs-europe.html

something like this ?

philip cap list of FUNDS so so so many.. .need to find method to shortlist.
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post Sep 5 2017, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 5 2017, 10:11 AM)
elea88, I tried buying from POEMS today. See boleh jalan or not. One of the fund I want to buy tutup already doh.gif
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my ac not activated yet.. waiting for PW

i shortlisted:

UOB UNITED ASIA HBF
first state infrastructure
Blackrock global Multi asset
first state regional china fund
lion global Korea fund
fidelity euro

this is 2 weeks ago homework.. will analyse further when my ac is activated.
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post Sep 5 2017, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 5 2017, 10:55 AM)
UOB UNITED ASIA HBF > Fullerton Asian bond fund (I am going for this as bond fund is not suppose to be volatile)
first state infrastructure (also in my watch list)
Blackrock global Multi asset (why pick this?)
first state regional china fund (ok)
lion global Korea fund (why? > better pick united japan smaller)
fidelity euro > pick a Eu small cap

These are what I have searched.
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lion global Korea fund (why? > better pick united japan smaller)

ar.. just wanna hv small KOREA INVESTMENT. this country.. i hv no investment in yet.
diversify.

Japan.. i hv . unless i liquidate from FSM malaysia.

Blackrock global Multi asset (why pick this?)
recommended by OCBC RM... but did not buy from them.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 5 2017, 01:00 PM)
Best to pick a country where the fund can perform. Japan >Korea. Hence putting same amount will nett you higher returns from Japan. But it's up to you. I chase returns.

Don't listen to RM. Do your own research. With volatility of 4+ and return of 4%+, better I pick Fullerton Asia bond fund volatility 2.25 with return of 4-5%. Another alternative is that United Asian HY bond fund (but it's not performing well these few months).

Just my opinion.
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Schroder Asian Gr Fd

just notice this fund return so high???
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2017, 08:44 PM)
Hehe... Now you are doing your homework  tongue.gif
Good fund for Greater china (30%+) and asia pacific. This will be my default go to fund for china + asia pacific. The better option would be Schroder Asian Total Return fund (lower volatility but almost same returns) but only available in USD  unless you buy from FSM then can pay in SGD but kena platform fees  sad.gif

So those who say earning 20% in Malaysia is the same as earning 20% in SGD better open thier eyes big big  biggrin.gif
That's why I said  lots of better choices available in SG vs FSM MY. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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exchange rate 3.14 today... Money changer says RM will strengthen.. but most of them also say will be a week or so show only.. haha...

like the 3.08 last month for only few days...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2017, 08:51 PM)
Good.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif Money match rate also not bad eh. No need to travel down to SG anymore. Transfer into CIMB SG to avoid paying SGD10 fees.
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did u try it ? Hv not analyse it yet.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 7 2017, 08:44 PM)
Hehe... Now you are doing your homework  tongue.gif Now you know why I said I want quit investing via SGX and go the UT way? I can't get that same return on my own.

Good fund for Greater china (30%+) and asia pacific. This will be my default go to fund for china + asia pacific. The better option would be Schroder Asian Total Return fund (lower volatility but almost same returns) but only available in USD  unless you buy from FSM then can pay in SGD but kena platform fees  sad.gif If somehow Phillip introduce the other fund, I sure go for that.

Email them and ask them to include that fund since Dollardex and FSM both have it. More people message them higher chance they will bring the fund in.

So those who say earning 20% in Malaysia is the same as earning 20% in SGD better open thier eyes big big  biggrin.gif
That's why I said  lots of better choices available in SG vs FSM MY. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Schroder Asian Income Cl A Dis SGD
6% annual
monthly div payout.
higher allocation in Finance.

https://api.fundinfo.com/document/9a63bb271...d7b68b2299a10df


whats difference AUD hedge, USD hedge.. return also different.

pros & cons betweendistribution funds or accumulation funds?






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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 16 2017, 03:32 PM)
That is the mother fund for RHB Asian Income (with RHB being a better performer). This is a balanced fund which means semua ada. Reit, Stocks, Bonds. You can buy that or you can DIY. Of cause a balanced fund will never beat a full equity fund but a balanced fund can beat an equity fund in a bear market.

AUD, USD hedge means the returns are hedge with the currency. Makes it more stable. You won't gain more, you won't lose more. Eg. A 5% return hedge in USD means the return give exactly 5% in USD vs 5% in THB which can mean the return may actually be 10% or even -5% when converted back to your buying currency. If you want to buy those hedge funds, you need that currency. If the fund is in USD, you need to pay in USD. If the fund is in AUD, you pay in AUD.

How do you pay?
1) Convert your SGD and buy at Phillip  exchange rate.
2) Do a TT to Phillip using RM in that required currency (eg USD, AUD)

For me, I avoid those foreign currency denominated funds as it will incur more cost for me.

You should know by now that dividend in unit trust does nothing.
Accu
- Means no dividend/distribution will be given out (like that makes any difference)

Dis
- Means give you dividend/distribution but will be reinvested back unless you give them instructions that the dividend will be credited into your MMF account (which you should not be doing)

The only good thing I can see is sometimes there's a slight difference in returns and volatility (but very much negligible)

Personally, if you ask me, I will avoid this Schroder Asian Income Cl A Dis SGD fund. Reasons:
1) At about 5%+ return (based on FSM SG website), this fund is not attractive at all. I can get better returns with s-reits.
2) There are other better performing balanced fund.

But the choice is yours. You can search for funds using FSM fund Selector

Hope this helps.
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Hmm. now i need ask my Philip Agent if can tt Aud into the ac from Msia.

My ac open. I shortlisting basket of UT to start.




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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 16 2017, 06:03 PM)

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haha yeah. my servicing guy already send me the instructions.

Weekend homework.

now reading about:
Healthcare health science funds



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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 16 2017, 07:28 PM)
I have already glance through, not appealing at allĀ  sad.gif Better I stick with traditional funds (region based). Traditional funds have higher returns for more or less the same volatility as health care.
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UOB United Japan Small And Mid Cap Fd SGD Hedged

UOB United Japan Small And Mid Cap Fd SGD

other than return% difference..

whats other pros & cons?

cannot fund suitable Euro Small Cap.. u shortlisted any?

i only got :
BNP Paribas - Parvest Eqty Europe Small Cap Classic C SGD RH


at this point, will start small with SGD. than to be converting to EURO or USD.

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 19 2017, 09:55 PM)
What fund are you looking at?
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just wondering about the rating...

Msia - Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund.

so, where to get rating.?



United Asian High Yield Bond Fund - Class SGD - which part of POEMS Website can find the rating?

https://api.fundinfo.com/document/18a829031...d7b68b2299a10df
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 19 2017, 10:45 PM)
Here you go. For Affin
Info from fundfactshett
user posted image

For United
Info from
- Product highlights
- Prospectus
user posted image

To pour cold water on United,
user posted image
Blue - Original P fund unhedge in USD
Green - United
Red- P fund SGD-H

1 Year results
user posted image

Of course if you take 3 years, united win. But at volatility of 6.81 is just too high the risk of a bond fund.
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i hv never buy BOND before. so really new to me.
as between BOND and FD. i will just choose FD 4%.

got so many types of BOND ... Emerging market bond, US bond, Rojak Bond.

which website u use to do the comparison table?

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