But RF, MB Quart & LA is dynamic speaker...might suitable for musical..

Maybe you also can try others than that like PHD, DLS, Helix, a/d/s... which difference with Dynamic Speaker

how to classify a dynamic speaker and how different is it a dynamic speaker than other category speaker.....

by the way, I didnt go to alpha today cos sleepy (last nite sleep 3 hrs cos been working nite shifts for the past few days, so today afternoon sleeping )

anyway, I did go to crystal sound ......managed to check the RF speaker.....the power comps cost about RM1800 and power coaxs costs about RM700...the punch comps costs about RM600 but punch coaxs Im not sure...

I saw DLS C6 going for RM620 and B6 for RM680 ......I think both DLS and RF sets can get cheaper a bit since that is the price written on the box but dont expect good tuning and installation like golden or alpha.....

another thing is I dont think those speakers he is selling will be chaplang or fake...

Maybe the tweeter....
btw You have to listen to compare the speaker...

hey loon (yeah, to the only person who is replying me always...kekeke ).....

anyway, I visited ur dear alpha uncle today evening but he was kind of busy cos need to entertain other 3 customer's car so didnt talk to me a lot .....I went there thinking of doing soundproofing for my front 2 doors ended up not doing it.....

anyway, I audited one ICE system he set up for a customer's wira.....mind to say I was not say not really impressed .....not to say he didnt do a good job, the clarity in vocal and musical background was there but overall setup just doesnt suit my ears that well .....when I tried sitting in the back, I can hear light bass power which is OK by me .....when I tried to sit in the front, I hear like the sound is coming from both sites of the speakers but its only louder at one side where Im sitting....

I asked him if the staging is done and he said it is in the centre....I think since this is SQ setup and Im new to this type of setup (used to listen to front OEM speakers loudly), it might not suit me well in this area ......I like clarity in every sense but then to me volume shud be balance on both sides of the door, if one side only then something is wrong with the ears or setup....

so now I am confused, really I am ....I dont even know whether I shud take the comps he's offering to me....he ask me to come tomorow or when Im free to install the soundproofing and probably test out the MBQ DSE216 and others in the car itself.....that is if Im interested in buying .....if after test out I dont like it then how ler ? on top of that the only latest comps he have currently are like MBQ, RF (like those advertised in RF website), LA is only the sub is new one the rest of LA stuff is like old stuff, dragster and BM boschmann (lets not talk about it ler, hehehe)...the rest is so and so only.....

if like this how to decide ler since he dont keep current stocks because he is afraid he cant sell it out, for me if really need to buy need to test out but if stuff is limited then susah to decide, isnt it?....Im really in dilemma now ...cant decide anything, thinking of going elsewhere now also .....wat u think bro, please advice dude or anybody based on my predicament here......

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 8 2006, 11:17 PM

Actually, for testing ICE you have to bring yours favor CD to listen the music you familiar.... to compare the ICE system can bring you more detail music + vocal like some instrument, vocal ...before & after.
because when you listen the music you haven't listen before you won't know what is the difference before & after mah and also when the instrument got, when the vocal strong.... a lot reason...

Beside other ICE owner taste might not same as you...
Maybe you want bass more low but they maybe not...
Some request vocal more strong, musical less...
Please keep in mind..yours taste diference with other people...
Your ICE must meet yours requirement..not listen the installer say waht & what loh...

This post has been edited by loon1031: Dec 9 2006, 11:14 AM

bro shocker, sometimes what u listen *which u think is clarity* instead is thin or mellow sounding, they lack of warmth n airy.

In ice, u need to compromise, so better choose what type of music u luv most n tune n setup to it. Every components in ice also got their own characteristic, make sure u differentiate it n choose wisely. Choose those products which suits ur ears n not to the taste of installer.

both of u are rite, thanks for that .......but problem is that to really really understand, appreciate, feel and taste the sound would be to test it out in a car and not in a show room.....

but problem with testing in the car would be if lets say u decide not to buy from the installer after testing the ICE, meaning those ICE stuff doesnt match our requirement, then installer would get angry rite cos he setup so hard for our listening then decide not to take it.....

in my case, that could be the situation but as well as not having latest or a lot of comps set to decide ......but the installer is good and technically competent that I feel sorry for him if I go elsewhere...

This post has been edited by shocker: Dec 9 2006, 06:19 PM

bro shocker, u can attend ice tt n audit urself. If u r serious on purchasing, installer should setup whatever needs u want, if they get angry just because u dun like it, then change for another installer.

Bear in mind, what u pay n what u will get, dun expect few hundred rm stuff could over power few thousand rm stuff.

Hey bro,just wanna share with you bout my setup.

I got my MB Quart DSD-216 for RM400 and i bought 2 pairs.After that I installed Dynamat Extreme to my doors and now the bass produced is subwoofer like+_+

So Bro Shocker, already decided liao?

u are rite also, but around here in penang very less ICE TTs so its a bit hard on that part ....if in KL then no problem always got activities like dis all da time...

on installer setups, need to try to go somewhere where I can test/audit and choose a variety of models , otherwise if I go somewhere where models and parts are limited (even though installer is damn good), then probably I cannot stretch my budget limit up to maximum level , meaning I would probably wont get the best deal around, he probably can tune wat he have to wat I want, but I can only get most out of wat speakers he have without comparing to other speakers.....

thanks for sharing ur setup, sound proofing/deading is important too I realise that, but Im confuse whether I shud choose proofing or deading (which is 2 different things)....

refering to ur setup, did u mean the enchanced the comps speakers bass to like a subs bass ?? if u are using an amp, sure that might be the case with the effects of a sound proofing/deading material....

not yet ler bro loon, currently pening kapla thinking of this ....I think I need to go audit more setups around .....probably be heading around penang first before trying to go to asacar in kulim ......my target is by end of the year shud have component set atleast....then follow up by an amp preferably 4 channel one....thanks for ur assistance so far...

Yeap.I'm using an amp to power the speakers and have installed 2 layers of Dynamat on each door.However,the subwoofer like bass is not my liking.Probably it suits better for those SPL users.Can use it to 'cha ge'.Hehehehe

At Penang here, want TT sure can.. but none organize it
Find one day la...We TT... even only 2 ppl...

shocker, try to browse autoworld.com.my ice forum, there r lotsa icer there, like pras, vegatron, twofish n who lots more. or browse mycarhifi.com or gr8tunes.net.

Dy2k4, nope u r wrong, all sq setup will need to soundproof our doors n whole lots more places too. we need low bass for those double bass, drum n piano too.

Thats why u need to know what brand is for spl n what brand is for sq.

hahahaha.....want to do TT between us 2 onli huh ....hehehe...that will be like comparing drain water (which is my setup) and champagne (which is ur setup) ....cant bear the humilation man....

ahboy, I have been browsing those sites since I started to get involve in ICE some few months back, anyway....thank u...

Oh... Not decided yet?

damn, still havent ler ....been thinking of going for american based set rather than european based one since most of the type of music that I listen is US based genre...

wat u think, is it wrong to think this way ? been thinking like LA (new LA of course), RF (perhaps fanatic series) and others....still need to go to asacar and see how ler...

If you prefer dynamic music, you can try US thing..
If you prefer warm muisc, try euro thing

If anyone of u guys coming to kl, pm me in advance, i will organise one ice tt for u guys.

shocker, dun lah paiseh, there is not entry or highend level among icer, we all sharing info n having fun out of it nia, so dun worry bro.

roughly, how does we differenciate dynamic music and warm music.....